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Got a text last night from a very liberal close friend of mine. We've been fighting politics since before Obama got elected first time. Said if he finds out Obama is linked to this IRS thing, it's a game-changer for him. That's huge. And now the AP story grows.
I never thought he could be turned away. I was wrong. |
Eureka! You have just discovered the obvious. Yes, Rice spoke based on talking points. That's why they are called "talking points". Are you also aware that the President's speeches are written in advance? Also, when a Senator offers prepared remarks, those remarks are actually prepared in advance. Fascinating times in which we live. |
| I think the only "sunshine" some of the frothy & ranting so-called "conservatives" (self-proclaimed "respectable" and otherwise) can see is the minuscule space between their but cheeks as they bend over looking for another conspiracy. |
Obama's Letterman statements and Rice's were talking points. We were lied to. Yes, that's obvious. Your point about the speeches? What does that have to do with the price of apples? I would hope that a President would not deliver a speech based on old new when he knew that was old news? |
If you agree that Obama and Rice were speaking from talking points, then you can't accuse them of lying. The talking points reflected the combine opinions of several government departments, but primarily CIA and State. The CIA and State told Obama and Rice what to say. If the information was wrong -- which it was -- then Obama and Rice repeated wrong information. But, that is not lying. That is simply saying something that you didn't know was false. The point about speeches is that you seemed shocked that people speak based on talking points. I assumed that you were also unaware that presidential speeches are written beforehand. |
I wish there was a yawn smiley. ** zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz** |
this is what you and your liberal friend text about? Seriously just stop lying. |
Why would this be so far-fetched? Weirdness. |
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What was the lie....? Obama did not want to be clearly linked, pre-election, rightly or wrongly, as an administration that let a terror attack get through on 9-11. Motivation? He was down in the polls with Romney and came out swinging on this so he would not lose further momentum. We all know that at some point a loss of momentum can be irreversible. Hence--lots of bluster from his spokespeople, minimizing and hope the 'whole thing would die down' (which is the message to this day from his administration).
What was the lie...? Is this actually confusing to some? |
Interesting theory. Interesting, but wrong. On September 11, far from leading the polls, Romney was desperate. His desperation was apparent when he rushed to appear on TV just after midnight in order to accuse Obama of siding with the enemy. That proved to be a huge blunder for Romney. Also, Obama didn't lie. He repeated a claim made by the CIA. Are you accusing the CIA of being part of Obama's reelection effort? In the run up to the election, Republicans were living in their own parallel universe. In their universe, the polls were skewed. The masses of America were going to vote against Obama. Romney was going to win -- in the words of Dick Morris -- in a landslide. Election night was a rude awakening. But, you don't appear to have learned anything. You are again in a parallel universe where a significant number of Americans even care about the Benghazi attack and, among all those who care, there is support for the Republicans on the issue. Eventually, you will have another rude awakening. |
| as I recall he was building momentum and then housed Obama in the '2nd debate'. However that silly moderator sided with Obama's administration's 'big lie' in the third debate, and even though Romney was right--Obama 'appeared right' to the masses (you) and you know how these things go... |
Specifically, what did he say that was A LIE. If you're talking about acting like a politician, minimizing, spinning, etc., that's politics and elections for you. Tell me in plain English. Please QUOTE THE LIE. |
Romney's statement just after midnight on Sept. 11 was a huge blunder. His trip to Europe was a disaster. The convention was a farce. Then, following the Sept. 11 blunder, the 47% video was released. Romney was floundering. To call that gaining momentum is to completely ignore reality. Romney got a bit of a bump after the Denver debate, but even that was not enough to put him ahead in the polls. |
I think you have snapped. Unable to understand how? why??? Obama won, having discarded the many obvious problems with the campaign and the party, you have latched onto the one last hope: that one moment in a political debate threw the entire thing. A moment in which your candidate was corrected on a point of absolute fact. Here it is in black and white:
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