"Tangled" the movie- negative theme re: adoption?

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Anonymous wrote:You heard wrong - Mother Gothel kidnaps Rapunzel as a baby. Definitely not adoption!

Its an adorable movie - my 3 year old is crazy for it.

+1. Seriously, it's called Google.

OP here. In my defense, I've heard mixed reviews from other adoptive parents so I thought I would open up the question to non-adoptive parents to get their opinions.

Well, I'm sorry, but your adoptive parent friends are reading something into the movie based on their own experiences and personal sensitivities that just isn't there. An evil hag who kidnaps a baby is not an adoptive mother, and there is no way to read the story otherwise. End of discussion. Make your own assessments; stop relying on totally unfounded heresy from others to make basic parenting decisions.

Your huge over-reaction to this dialogue tells a story in itself.
OP here. I'm trying to make my own assessments, which is why I asked this question here, right? Sheesh.

No you're not. You're being lazy. Google the damn movie synopsis and you will see that you have nothing to worry about. What do you want us to tell you? Your friends are nuts and plain wrong.

[Anonymous]

OP, I saw the movie and think it's super cute. PPs are right that the story involves a kidnapping, not adoption. However, my sister (biological) used to scream at my parents when she didn't get her way: "You're not my real family. My real family loves me. They're going to come for me one day and you're going to be in so much trouble." If your child already thinks along these lines - that she's a victim and everyone's out to get her, then this could add fuel to the fire, but if yours is a little more sane, then nothing to worry about with the film. It's a more feminist version of the Rapunzel story, so I would definitely show it to my daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:On a related note, why are Disney movies always missing the mother? Beauty and the Beast (no mom), The Little Mermaid (no mom), Aladdin (no mom), Cinderella (evil step-mom), Snow White (evil step-mom). I suppose a few of them have moms - Peter Pan (gratuitous parents), Sleeping Beauty (although Aurora is raised by "aunts"), The Lion King (real parents, but of course, they were lions). What's the deal with that?

Not just disney, many many fairy tales have this particular theme. My DC reads and watches many fairy tales, many have no or evil mothers/stepmothers and distant/unavailable fathers, leaving the kid(s) on their own. My view is that its the dependence/independence struggle kids must figure out and right now DC is doing just that!

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Did you invest your entire retirement fund in the after run profits of Tangled?

LOL! +1

Seriously, what's up with the rabid support for this movie from some posters?? I saw it, but I found it really boring and not much fun. No comment on the "mother" angle, just didn't think it was very good.

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I would let my daughter watch it and if she has any concerns tell her, "No one should ever steal a baby from it's mother." You are your daughter's mother, adoption does not change that. If you change her and your perspective to allign with the parents, there shouldn't be an issue.

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Did you invest your entire retirement fund in the after run profits of Tangled?

LOL! +1

Seriously, what's up with the rabid support for this movie from some posters?? I saw it, but I found it really boring and not much fun. No comment on the "mother" angle, just didn't think it was very good.

It's not about support for this particular movie, but for basic common sense and for not over thinking every. Single. Thing.

[Anonymous]

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Did you invest your entire retirement fund in the after run profits of Tangled?

LOL! +1

Seriously, what's up with the rabid support for this movie from some posters?? I saw it, but I found it really boring and not much fun. No comment on the "mother" angle, just didn't think it was very good.

It's not about support for this particular movie, but for basic common sense and for not over thinking every. Single. Thing.

So you chose "Tangled" as your hill to die on over this issue? Okaaaaay. . .

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Not really....I'm just particularly fed up with this kind of thing right now. Sorry I'm being so prickly.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an adult adoptee and while I don't have an issue as the evil hag presented as the real mom because I'm an adult, I would just exercise caution with a young adoptee. If you don't have adopted children, then you may not be as sensitive to such an issue, or you probably don't even see an issue.

Have you seen the movie? How is this an issue? You explain to your child that kidnapping and adoption are vastly different. Where is the problem?

I took DD (who is adopted) to see this movie when she was 5. She found it troubling. You may think it is easy to see the difference, but you have no idea what parts of the movie an individual adoptee will focus on. I didn't plant any seeds of doubt in her head. I was blindsided by the adoption overtones as I often am in thee movies ("Despicable Me for example). Dd was the one who saw an adoption link, and it upset and confused her.
But we all get that you think you know everything about how other people's children will react. Enough already from you. Move on.

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Anonymous wrote:Not really....I'm just particularly fed up with this kind of thing right now. Sorry I'm being so prickly.

NP to this. I have no idea what this movie is even about, not sure why I clicked this thread but I've now read all the pages because I'm fascinated with how invested you are in OP's question. Dude, get over it! It's nice out - get some fresh air!

[Anonymous]

Only if your daughter thinks adopted kids are all acquired via kidnapping, in which case you have some bigger issues to clear up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only if your daughter thinks adopted kids are all acquired via kidnapping, in which case you have some bigger issues to clear up.

Posted this before I saw the back and forth about this on the thread. Just wanted to be clear that I meant misconceptions by biokids about adopted kids, not that you shouldn't be sensitive to how an adopted child might see things differently.

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Anonymous wrote:My opinion- A lot of adults are really bad about over thinking things. Sometimes a movie really is just a movie.

I think it depends on the kid. My former foster kid is triggered horribly by disney movies with mommy issues. I mean, horribly horribly triggered.

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This isn't entirely on point but I was worried about my daughter's reaction when Mother Gothel dies in the end. I mean, hell, the woman falls to her death while transforming into a corpse. But as I watch this movie about 75,352 times with my daughter, who's 3 and absolutely loves it, she gets to the part where she's falling and she sort of sings, "there she gooooooooooes." Thump. "She's dead."

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Anonymous wrote:I am an adult adoptee and while I don't have an issue as the evil hag presented as the real mom because I'm an adult, I would just exercise caution with a young adoptee. If you don't have adopted children, then you may not be as sensitive to such an issue, or you probably don't even see an issue.

Have you seen the movie? How is this an issue? You explain to your child that kidnapping and adoption are vastly different. Where is the problem?

The issue is that young children might not understand the difference. I just saw this movie and while I and the kids liked it I thought it could be a problem for an adopted child.