Fairfax versus PG for new FBI Headquarters gets ugly

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Anonymous wrote:I found that people who say shit like this have never actually been to our county. They tend to be afraid of the crime-ridden-poor-black majority-county. Well, except for the National Harbor because that's not really PG. It's Fairfax adjacent.

When we moved to the DC area we chose to live in PG county for it's diversity. DH's job is in AA county and we first looked at houses there but found we liked PG County better. We live in an ideal neighborhood where we know everyone on our street and the majority of the people in the next four blocks. We live in a house but near apartment complex that is home mostly families and graduate students.

The large apartment complex near where the FBI headquarters is slated to go is under new management and crime is down. It was a troubled spot because the rent was cheap and there are 2,900 units there. Well, the affordable housing and section 8 is still available but this new management is not renewing leases for known trouble makers. While I still wouldn't hang out there at night I have volunteered at their elementary school during the day. Crime there has most certainly decreased there.

PGC: 65.4% AA 26.6% W (15.2% non-HISP) 4.3% AZN 15.2% HISP
MoCo: 18.2% AA 63.6% W (48.7% non-HISP) 14.4% AZN 17.5% HISP
Frederick: 9.2% AA 83.8% W (77.3% non-HISP) 4.1% AZN 7.6% HISP
Anne Arundel: 16.1% AA 77.1% W (71.9% non-HISP) 3.6% AZN 6.4% HISP
Arlington: 9.1% AA 77.3% W (64.0% non-HISP) 9.7% AZN 15.2% HISP
Alexandria: 21.8% AA 60.9% W (53.5% non-HISP) 6.0% AZN 16.1% HISP
Fairfax: 9.9% AA 68.1% W (54.1% non-HISP) 18.0% AZN 15.8% HISP
Prince William: 21.3% AA 65.6% W (48.3% non-HISP) 7.9% AZN 20.5% HISP
Loudoun: 8.0% AA 72.8% W (61.6% non-HISP) 15.3% AZN 12.6% HISP

Prince George's is many things, but diverse it is not, unless you count fairly monolithic African-American to be diverse. Somehow, I doubt you consider Faifrax to be diverse.

Which community on your list qualifies as diverse?

Probably Montgomery County, no race is a majority, and there's double digit percentages of AA, AZN, and HISP.

Am surprised Loudoun is more diverse (or at least is as diverse) as Arlington.

Crime is down nationwide, the DC area is probably no exception.

What?

I would rate Montgomery County as the most diverse. No race is a majority and there's double digit percentages of African-Americans, Asians, and Hispanics.

Loudoun is as diverse if not more so than Arlington.

Crime is down nationwide. The DC area would be no exception.

Which of these did you have trouble understanding?

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County Development Association President Gerry Gordon’s comments at a forum went too far.
According to the Washington Business Journal, Gordon said the FBI would be appropriate for Prince George’s County because that’s where the agency would find the people it picks up.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Controversial-Comments-in-Campaign-to-Land-New-FBI-Headquarters-197704711.html

Three strings of robberies in our GF neighborhood. All three times, perps were from - and picked up in - PG county.

Truth hurts.

Golly, three property crimes. Maybe you should move to the outer suburbs. You aren't cut out for living in such close proximity to other people.

LOL. awesome comment

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I think it should go to PG. It has the least amount of traffic density.

Seriously, this entire area is changing. If people keep saying that businesses shouldn't move to PG, then of course crime will increase, because there are empty buildings!!! That would happen in *any* county/city.

PG County has metro access, the lightest traffic in the general area, and it has the facilities/space.

Montgomery County and Northern Va traffic are out of control.

PG County makes the most sense.

Remember, some of the most gentrified, expensive areas of D.C. used to be worse than Baltimore City and PG combined. But what happened? People moved there! Businesses moved there! Crime dropped because it was no longer stretches of empty, boarded-up buildings.

We need to start making decisions based on practical things and not stupid stigmas. There are a lot of areas in PG that are safe and family-friendly and lovely places.

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Anonymous wrote:Northern Virginia, keepin' it classy.

oh don't worry, I'm sure he's just getting warmed up. In a few weeks he'll tel us that ICE naturally belongs in Arlington....

Well, there's a huge ICE Detention Center blocks from the Dunn Loring metro station.

that would be Vienna.

Whoosh! Nevermind, PP, nevermind. (And I would call it Merrifield, but I'm a purist.)

I live in Vienna, but PP is correct: if PG County has the space, less traffic, metro, etc, why not build it there? I do not understand why every geographic issue in this area becomes an enormous pissing contest. My god, it's like high schoolers fighting over which school has the better fight song.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County Development Association President Gerry Gordon’s comments at a forum went too far.
According to the Washington Business Journal, Gordon said the FBI would be appropriate for Prince George’s County because that’s where the agency would find the people it picks up.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Controversial-Comments-in-Campaign-to-Land-New-FBI-Headquarters-197704711.html

Three strings of robberies in our GF neighborhood. All three times, perps were from - and picked up in - PG county.

Truth hurts.

Golly, three property crimes. Maybe you should move to the outer suburbs. You aren't cut out for living in such close proximity to other people.

So it only counts if they shoot someone? I see...

Again, truth hurts. We get PG residents crossing the bridge specifically to steal

Your neighborhood doesn't sound very safe. Where I live in PG we never have robberies. Maybe you should move?

They come to Great Falls because they know there's actually something of substance to take....

Yes, I'm sure that's what people tell themselves in southeast D.C. and inner-city Chicago- they're only getting the most crimes because they're the most awesome!

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Except that's what police records show. Crime here from PG County residents. Did I say Southeast?

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And why do you think I mean ALL PG county? There are criminal elements in any county. I'm simply saying there's a reason the initial statement was made by that FFX county official.

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Anonymous wrote:And why do you think I mean ALL PG county? There are criminal elements in any county. I'm simply saying there's a reason the initial statement was made by that FFX county official.

Wait you are saying that because of three crimes in your area, the comments of the FFX county official are justified? And then you observe that every county has criminal elements? So then he can say that about any county and the comment is utterly meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it should go to PG. It has the least amount of traffic density.

Seriously, this entire area is changing. If people keep saying that businesses shouldn't move to PG, then of course crime will increase, because there are empty buildings!!! That would happen in *any* county/city.

PG County has metro access, the lightest traffic in the general area, and it has the facilities/space.

Montgomery County and Northern Va traffic are out of control.

PG County makes the most sense.

Remember, some of the most gentrified, expensive areas of D.C. used to be worse than Baltimore City and PG combined. But what happened? People moved there! Businesses moved there! Crime dropped because it was no longer stretches of empty, boarded-up buildings.

We need to start making decisions based on practical things and not stupid stigmas. There are a lot of areas in PG that are safe and family-friendly and lovely places.

Only reasonable post in thread.

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PGC: 65.4% AA 26.6% W (15.2% non-HISP) 4.3% AZN 15.2% HISP
MoCo: 18.2% AA 63.6% W (48.7% non-HISP) 14.4% AZN 17.5% HISP
Frederick: 9.2% AA 83.8% W (77.3% non-HISP) 4.1% AZN 7.6% HISP
Anne Arundel: 16.1% AA 77.1% W (71.9% non-HISP) 3.6% AZN 6.4% HISP
Arlington: 9.1% AA 77.3% W (64.0% non-HISP) 9.7% AZN 15.2% HISP
Alexandria: 21.8% AA 60.9% W (53.5% non-HISP) 6.0% AZN 16.1% HISP
Fairfax: 9.9% AA 68.1% W (54.1% non-HISP) 18.0% AZN 15.8% HISP
Prince William: 21.3% AA 65.6% W (48.3% non-HISP) 7.9% AZN 20.5% HISP
Loudoun: 8.0% AA 72.8% W (61.6% non-HISP) 15.3% AZN 12.6% HISP

I would rate Montgomery County as the most diverse. No race is a majority and there's double digit percentages of African-Americans, Asians, and Hispanics.

Loudoun is as diverse if not more so than Arlington.

Crime is down nationwide. The DC area would be no exception.

Which of these did you have trouble understanding?

NP here. Well, when Montgomery County is listed as 63.6% white, I would say that is a racial majority. The 48.7% non-hispanic white is not a racial division. Whether the individuals are hispanic or not, they are still Caucasian. They are also culterally Latino, but that is their ethnic origin. They are still racially Caucasian/white. So I agree with the "What?" poster who questioned how you can say that no race is a majority when the statistics that you quoted yourself say otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it should go to PG. It has the least amount of traffic density.

Seriously, this entire area is changing. If people keep saying that businesses shouldn't move to PG, then of course crime will increase, because there are empty buildings!!! That would happen in *any* county/city.

PG County has metro access, the lightest traffic in the general area, and it has the facilities/space.

Montgomery County and Northern Va traffic are out of control.

PG County makes the most sense.

Remember, some of the most gentrified, expensive areas of D.C. used to be worse than Baltimore City and PG combined. But what happened? People moved there! Businesses moved there! Crime dropped because it was no longer stretches of empty, boarded-up buildings.

We need to start making decisions based on practical things and not stupid stigmas. There are a lot of areas in PG that are safe and family-friendly and lovely places.

Fairfax is near airports, the Pentagon, Quantico, CIA. Practical and good public schools for FBI employees. PG is near fedex Field and on the way to the beach.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it should go to PG. It has the least amount of traffic density.

Seriously, this entire area is changing. If people keep saying that businesses shouldn't move to PG, then of course crime will increase, because there are empty buildings!!! That would happen in *any* county/city.

PG County has metro access, the lightest traffic in the general area, and it has the facilities/space.

Montgomery County and Northern Va traffic are out of control.

PG County makes the most sense.

Remember, some of the most gentrified, expensive areas of D.C. used to be worse than Baltimore City and PG combined. But what happened? People moved there! Businesses moved there! Crime dropped because it was no longer stretches of empty, boarded-up buildings.

We need to start making decisions based on practical things and not stupid stigmas. There are a lot of areas in PG that are safe and family-friendly and lovely places.

Fairfax is near airports, the Pentagon, Quantico, CIA. Practical and good public schools for FBI employees. PG is near fedex Field and on the way to the beach.

Odd comment about the airports because PG has BWI and Reagan. And obviously lack of good public schools in the District has not hindered the Bureau. No one says you have to live in the county where you work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it should go to PG. It has the least amount of traffic density.

Seriously, this entire area is changing. If people keep saying that businesses shouldn't move to PG, then of course crime will increase, because there are empty buildings!!! That would happen in *any* county/city.

PG County has metro access, the lightest traffic in the general area, and it has the facilities/space.

Montgomery County and Northern Va traffic are out of control.

PG County makes the most sense.

Remember, some of the most gentrified, expensive areas of D.C. used to be worse than Baltimore City and PG combined. But what happened? People moved there! Businesses moved there! Crime dropped because it was no longer stretches of empty, boarded-up buildings.

We need to start making decisions based on practical things and not stupid stigmas. There are a lot of areas in PG that are safe and family-friendly and lovely places.

I live in NoVa and I 100% agree with you. It only makes sense to spread the development over the entire DC metro area. It would be great for the whole area if there is more going on in PG business-wise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it should go to PG. It has the least amount of traffic density.

Seriously, this entire area is changing. If people keep saying that businesses shouldn't move to PG, then of course crime will increase, because there are empty buildings!!! That would happen in *any* county/city.

PG County has metro access, the lightest traffic in the general area, and it has the facilities/space.

Montgomery County and Northern Va traffic are out of control.

PG County makes the most sense.

Remember, some of the most gentrified, expensive areas of D.C. used to be worse than Baltimore City and PG combined. But what happened? People moved there! Businesses moved there! Crime dropped because it was no longer stretches of empty, boarded-up buildings.

We need to start making decisions based on practical things and not stupid stigmas. There are a lot of areas in PG that are safe and family-friendly and lovely places.

Fairfax is near airports, the Pentagon, Quantico, CIA. Practical and good public schools for FBI employees. PG is near fedex Field and on the way to the beach.

Odd comment about the airports because PG has BWI and Reagan. And obviously lack of good public schools in the District has not hindered the Bureau. No one says you have to live in the county where you work.

National airport is in ARLINGTON, which is in VA...not PG County.

I mean, it's across the bridge and probably pretty easy to get to from PG county. But it's not there at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it should go to PG. It has the least amount of traffic density.

Seriously, this entire area is changing. If people keep saying that businesses shouldn't move to PG, then of course crime will increase, because there are empty buildings!!! That would happen in *any* county/city.

PG County has metro access, the lightest traffic in the general area, and it has the facilities/space.

Montgomery County and Northern Va traffic are out of control.

PG County makes the most sense.

Remember, some of the most gentrified, expensive areas of D.C. used to be worse than Baltimore City and PG combined. But what happened? People moved there! Businesses moved there! Crime dropped because it was no longer stretches of empty, boarded-up buildings.

We need to start making decisions based on practical things and not stupid stigmas. There are a lot of areas in PG that are safe and family-friendly and lovely places.

Fairfax is near airports, the Pentagon, Quantico, CIA. Practical and good public schools for FBI employees. PG is near fedex Field and on the way to the beach.

Odd comment about the airports because PG has BWI and Reagan. And obviously lack of good public schools in the District has not hindered the Bureau. No one says you have to live in the county where you work.

National airport is in ARLINGTON, which is in VA...not PG County.

I mean, it's across the bridge and probably pretty easy to get to from PG county. But it's not there at all.

Gee, I didn't know I had to be that precise. I can't imagine how confused you were when you read my post.