More reason for there to be zero available slots at bilingual schools...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I consider myself pretty objective since my kids are in their teens and I have to connection to the Hebrew....and I have to say I don't see the Selah people inserting themselves into every conversation at all. What I see is a lot hyper-critical commentary by non-Selah people and insertion of Selah into every thread -and then people responding, presumably Selah-parents to be.....so it seems to be that if you would stop bashing Selah----these parents would stop defending Selah. For example, in this thread, someone said something positive about Selah in a LIST with other schools, and the nasty Selah talk started. Similarly, on the one or two Selah postive threads started here, the anti-Selah people started talking smack. ENOUGH ALREADY. Every year you people pick one school to trash - and it's so unnecessary. It is unsurprising to me that the YY parents stick up for Selah -they have been through the same tired routine from you people.

I wish I knew how to say "Amen" in Hebrew It's like all of those bashers of Appleseed. Don't like, don't send your kids there....but on and and on and on...blah blah blah blah....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But see PP, even your own version of what happens in these threads is wrong in THIS thread! You said the 1st posts are by non-Sela/negative posters, but that's not even true in this thread.

Within the 1st 4 posts, there are 2 positive mentions of Sela and no negatives. Then post #5 asks "Now will all the Sela hate stop?" and THAT is what sparked the conversation about the negatives.

It's simply not true that the negative Sela posts just explode out of nowhere in each thread. The negatives are responding to previous posts.

Try it, link to one single thread where the 1st mention of Sela is negative?

WTF...look at the first negative Sela post in this thread: 01/10/2013 19:06 - that's before the person referenced the Sela hatred. Jesus, take the wheel!

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't Amen be a Hebrew word since it's from the Bible???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Try it, link to one single thread where the 1st mention of Sela is negative?

Try this one:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/202119.page
Two factual posts, a Yiddish joke, two factual posts, and then a post assuming that the school is religiously affiliated.

Read the whole thread--the vitriol against Sela is ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Good thing they clarify their definition of "bilingual" is speaking 2+ languages daily since 10 yrs old, I was about to enroll in advanced French classes to get my French groove back!

http://news.yahoo.com/study-bilinguals-faster-brains-120105403--abc-news-health.html

Now that the benefits of a 2nd language - any second language - are established, do you think that means the SELA hate will stop?

That depends... will some Sela posters stop making stuff up about the level of interest and acting like Sela is already open and other decisions about it have already been made? That is what is making people intolerant of some of the Sela discussion. There'd be just as much hostility here about Sela if it was English only, if it's boosters kept making stuff up.

yes, just like the BASIS catfights

So with BASIS did the pro-Basis boosters also pretend that there was no excessive BASIS boosting going on as they are here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Try it, link to one single thread where the 1st mention of Sela is negative?

Try this one:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/202119.page
Two factual posts, a Yiddish joke, two factual posts, and then a post assuming that the school is religiously affiliated.

Read the whole thread--the vitriol against Sela is ugly.

But that is not an example of the 1st mention of Sela being negative. The PPs point is that Sela isn't starting these battles, that the Sela insertion into every thread is starting with anti-Sela folks. That simply is not true, and the thread you linked to is a thread that starts positive about Sela. Not an example.

No one is saying that there aren't people who feel strongly about Hebrew bilingual ed in a charter school on both sides, so no one is saying there's no vitriol. But the many recent threads where people are saying "enough already, stop it Sela!" are responses to the over-insertion that usually starts with... wait for it... a positive post about Sela!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But see PP, even your own version of what happens in these threads is wrong in THIS thread! You said the 1st posts are by non-Sela/negative posters, but that's not even true in this thread.

Within the 1st 4 posts, there are 2 positive mentions of Sela and no negatives. Then post #5 asks "Now will all the Sela hate stop?" and THAT is what sparked the conversation about the negatives.

It's simply not true that the negative Sela posts just explode out of nowhere in each thread. The negatives are responding to previous posts.

Try it, link to one single thread where the 1st mention of Sela is negative?

WTF...look at the first negative Sela post in this thread: 01/10/2013 19:06 - that's before the person referenced the Sela hatred. Jesus, take the wheel!

Now now Sela-Boosters! You're just adding fuel to the fire if you can't read posts in order. Tsk tsk, you sure you don't wanna go back and revise that statement, since it's, well, ridiculously wrong?

[Anonymous]

It reminds me a lot of the diatribes against YY. It is also internally inconsistent. You say no one wants or cares about Selah. Then you assert there is this vast cabal of Selah boosters taking over DCUM. So, either there are people supporting Selah forming the cabal or no one cares and there can be no cabal. Anyone who says Selah's not for me, but there table looked busy, or I am a MV parent but leave them alone, is a closet member of the Selah cabal. What is Selah, the Freemasons?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Try it, link to one single thread where the 1st mention of Sela is negative?

Try this one:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/202119.page
Two factual posts, a Yiddish joke, two factual posts, and then a post assuming that the school is religiously affiliated.

Read the whole thread--the vitriol against Sela is ugly.

But that is not an example of the 1st mention of Sela being negative. The PPs point is that Sela isn't starting these battles, that the Sela insertion into every thread is starting with anti-Sela folks. That simply is not true, and the thread you linked to is a thread that starts positive about Sela. Not an example.

No one is saying that there aren't people who feel strongly about Hebrew bilingual ed in a charter school on both sides, so no one is saying there's no vitriol. But the many recent threads where people are saying "enough already, stop it Sela!" are responses to the over-insertion that usually starts with... wait for it... a positive post about Sela!

So neutral posts--I hear this school is opening/is their charter approved/what do you know about them--are counted as "positive?" And bashing the school is the natural outcome to such affronts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But see PP, even your own version of what happens in these threads is wrong in THIS thread! You said the 1st posts are by non-Sela/negative posters, but that's not even true in this thread.

Within the 1st 4 posts, there are 2 positive mentions of Sela and no negatives. Then post #5 asks "Now will all the Sela hate stop?" and THAT is what sparked the conversation about the negatives.

It's simply not true that the negative Sela posts just explode out of nowhere in each thread. The negatives are responding to previous posts.

Try it, link to one single thread where the 1st mention of Sela is negative?

WTF...look at the first negative Sela post in this thread: 01/10/2013 19:06 - that's before the person referenced the Sela hatred. Jesus, take the wheel!

Now now Sela-Boosters! You're just adding fuel to the fire if you can't read posts in order. Tsk tsk, you sure you don't wanna go back and revise that statement, since it's, well, ridiculously wrong?

Are you feeling fevered? That post accuses Sela of lying. That's completely negative!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't Amen be a Hebrew word since it's from the Bible???

Could be Greek...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It reminds me a lot of the diatribes against YY. It is also internally inconsistent. You say no one wants or cares about Selah. Then you assert there is this vast cabal of Selah boosters taking over DCUM. So, either there are people supporting Selah forming the cabal or no one cares and there can be no cabal. Anyone who says Selah's not for me, but there table looked busy, or I am a MV parent but leave them alone, is a closet member of the Selah cabal. What is Selah, the Freemasons?

Who ever said no one wants or cares about Sela? Anyone reading this forum knows that if they got a charter, obviously someone cares about Sela - they can't exist without someone caring.

Now, how many care... that remains to be seen. But most of us don't wish a new school bad outcomes, so the thing that keeps dragging the Sela folks down is that any criticism or statement of opinion on how you root for it is twisted into these extremes "You say no one wants or cares about Selah."

Really? Where did anyone say that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting article. Good thing they clarify their definition of "bilingual" is speaking 2+ languages daily since 10 yrs old, I was about to enroll in advanced French classes to get my French groove back!

http://news.yahoo.com/study-bilinguals-faster-brains-120105403--abc-news-health.html

Now that the benefits of a 2nd language - any second language - are established, do you think that means the SELA hate will stop?

Sela BS again? Don't you have anything else to do?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally have no opinion about Sela or Hebrew and honestly if an English only charter had as many obnoxious boosters who brings up their not opened as yet charter at every opportunity, would be just as sick and tired of hearing about them too.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't Amen be a Hebrew word since it's from the Bible???

Could be Greek...

Ummmm...Didn't Hebrew come before Greek in the Bible, isn't that the whole point????