Does the proposed AAP Changes mean AAP in every MS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
+1 My kids have also had to move for reasons related to my work (non-military government service) and I agree 100%

-1. So it's OK to move your kids around if it advances your career, but not if the county implements a plan that is intended to increase transparency and improve the access of students throughout the county to advanced academic programs?

[Anonymous]

Really, PP? You don't understand that certain military and other government folks HAVE to move? Many of these families sacrifice a lot. Holy cow!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

According to the Level IV Center Enrollment by Cluster worksheet, White Oaks AAP Center would not be closed.

http://www.fcag.org/documents/level_iv_task_force_recs/level_iv_ctr_enr_clu.pdf

White Oaks would be one of two AAP Centers for the Lake Braddock SS pyramid.

Since you understand the worksheet, can you tell me, name the aap centers for each pyramid. Ie what are the ES aap centers for Oakton, Madison, and Fairfax pyramids. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since you understand the worksheet, can you tell me, name the aap centers for each pyramid. Ie what are the ES aap centers for Oakton, Madison, and Fairfax pyramids. Thanks!

Thanks for the confidence but I am simply reading the worksheet; understanding it is a whole other matter.

Here is the ES AAP Center information by cluster/HS pyramid, with the number indicating the number enrolled for 2012-2013 in Level IV Centers:

Cluster 1
Herndon HS:
Clearview 208

Langley HS:
Colvin Run 245
Churchill Road 294

McLean HS:
Haycock 378

Cluster 2
Falls Church HS:
Camelot (Potential center) 106

Madison HS:
Louise Archer 309

Marshall HS:
(no school listed) (Potential center) 335

Cluster 3
Annandale HS:
Mason Crest (Potential center) 72

Stuart HS:
Belvedere 112

Woodson HS:
Canterbury Woods 335

Cluster 4
Hayfield HS:
Lorton Station 195

Mt Vernon HS:
Riverside 139

West Potomac HS:
Stratford Landing 350

Cluster 5
Edison HS:
Rose Hill (Potential center) 142

Lee HS:
Springfield Estates 109

South County HS:
Silverbrook (Potential center) 142

Cluster 6:
Lake Braddock SS:
Sangster 161
White Oaks 184

Robinson SS:
Terra Centre (Potential center) 296

West Springfield HS:
Keene Mill 258

Cluster 7:
Centreville HS:
Bull Run 233
Centreville (Potential center) 124

Chantilly HS:
Greenbriar West 318
Oak Hill 209

Fairfax HS:
Willow Springs 328

Cluster 8:
Oakton HS:
Mosby Woods 271
Crossfield (Potential center) 188
Navy (Potential center) 171

South Lake HS:
Forest Edge 148
Sunrise Valley 163

Westfield HS:
Floris (Potential center) 182
Virginia Run (Potential center) 133

[Anonymous]

Also, I am not sure what happens at Hunters Woods, Mantua and McNair. I believe they are all current AAP Centers but they do not show up on the worksheet.

[Anonymous]

Thanks! Can you tell me more...what schools feed or will feed into crossfield, navy, and mosby woods? I think there are only 4 elementary schools in the Oakton pyramid; the above 3 and Oakton elementary., will 3 of the schools really be centers? For what feeder schools?

I could be mistaken, but thought the redo was focused on aligning the aap centers within pyramid and hence feeder schools would be within the pyramid.

[Anonymous]

I am mistaken, there are 7 ES in the Oakton pyramid. Still 3 out of 7 for centers seems kinda high.

[Anonymous]

Hunters Woods has appoximately 17 AAP classes....what would they do with that space if everyone went elsewhere, more magnet kids? It would be a real shame because the AAP kids there really have the bonus of the magnet extras, including the extra cont. ed the teachers get from KenCen.

[Anonymous]

Also, the aap middle school for Hunters Woods is Rachel Carson, which has a lot of kids going to Oakton over South Lakes. I don't think my kids would be at a disadvantage socially going to Oakton HS from Carson as opposed to going from Franklin. I will be disappointed if we don't get to go to Carson MS.

[Anonymous]

Look at page 7.

This document does indeed show that White Oaks will lose its AAP center:

http://fcag.org/documents/level_iv_task_force_recs/aap_enr_by_ctr_fdr.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
+1 My kids have also had to move for reasons related to my work (non-military government service) and I agree 100%

-1. So it's OK to move your kids around if it advances your career, but not if the county implements a plan that is intended to increase transparency and improve the access of students throughout the county to advanced academic programs?

No, it still sucks to move your kids due to career requirements. Ask anyone serving our country in the military and they will tell you that disrupting their kids' lives is one of the suckiest parts of the job.

Those of us who have moved their kids' schools out of job necessity know more than anyone else that moving children's schools unnecessarily is ill advised.

If you have a fourth grade AAP student, and are in one of the base schools slated for change, you will end up with 4 different schools in 5 years: base school (2nd grade), AAP center #1 (3rd-4th grade), AAP center #2 (5th-6th grade), middle school.

We have done 4 schools in 5 years with our military child, as have many of our friends. I promise you, it is a difficult thing for a child to face, and requires real effort on the part of the child, the schools and the families to get through that kind of change.

PP, you sound very bitter about the AAP center, and almost gleeful that kids are going to have to change schools. Why don't you spend a few years switching around your kids assigned schools so that your child can be a new kid at school 3-4 times, then come back and tell me if you feel differently about the matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at page 7.

This document does indeed show that White Oaks will lose its AAP center:

http://fcag.org/documents/level_iv_task_force_recs/aap_enr_by_ctr_fdr.pdf

Not sure if I read it the same way. In any case, White Oaks still shows up in the Level IV Center Enrollment by Cluster document:
http://fcag.org/documents/level_iv_task_force_recs/level_iv_ctr_enr_clu.pdf

Of course it would be helpful to actually read about a proposal in advance, instead of trying to make sense of unclear documents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No, it still sucks to move your kids due to career requirements. Ask anyone serving our country in the military and they will tell you that disrupting their kids' lives is one of the suckiest parts of the job.

Those of us who have moved their kids' schools out of job necessity know more than anyone else that moving children's schools unnecessarily is ill advised.

If you have a fourth grade AAP student, and are in one of the base schools slated for change, you will end up with 4 different schools in 5 years: base school (2nd grade), AAP center #1 (3rd-4th grade), AAP center #2 (5th-6th grade), middle school.

We have done 4 schools in 5 years with our military child, as have many of our friends. I promise you, it is a difficult thing for a child to face, and requires real effort on the part of the child, the schools and the families to get through that kind of change.

PP, you sound very bitter about the AAP center, and almost gleeful that kids are going to have to change schools. Why don't you spend a few years switching around your kids assigned schools so that your child can be a new kid at school 3-4 times, then come back and tell me if you feel differently about the matter.

No, I'm not bitter. I'm just pointing out that some of you have accepted or embraced multiple school changes in the past for various reasons, but want to treat this proposal as the straw that breaks the camel's back. I happen not to find it particularly convincing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it still sucks to move your kids due to career requirements. Ask anyone serving our country in the military and they will tell you that disrupting their kids' lives is one of the suckiest parts of the job.

Those of us who have moved their kids' schools out of job necessity know more than anyone else that moving children's schools unnecessarily is ill advised.

If you have a fourth grade AAP student, and are in one of the base schools slated for change, you will end up with 4 different schools in 5 years: base school (2nd grade), AAP center #1 (3rd-4th grade), AAP center #2 (5th-6th grade), middle school.

We have done 4 schools in 5 years with our military child, as have many of our friends. I promise you, it is a difficult thing for a child to face, and requires real effort on the part of the child, the schools and the families to get through that kind of change.

PP, you sound very bitter about the AAP center, and almost gleeful that kids are going to have to change schools. Why don't you spend a few years switching around your kids assigned schools so that your child can be a new kid at school 3-4 times, then come back and tell me if you feel differently about the matter.

No, I'm not bitter. I'm just pointing out that some of you have accepted or embraced multiple school changes in the past for various reasons, but want to treat this proposal as the straw that breaks the camel's back. I happen not to find it particularly convincing.

Well, when you buy a house or sign a multi year lease expecting that your child will finally get to spend 2-3 consecutive years in the same school, and someone changes the rules 1 year into it, yes, that is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, it still sucks to move your kids due to career requirements. Ask anyone serving our country in the military and they will tell you that disrupting their kids' lives is one of the suckiest parts of the job.

Those of us who have moved their kids' schools out of job necessity know more than anyone else that moving children's schools unnecessarily is ill advised.

If you have a fourth grade AAP student, and are in one of the base schools slated for change, you will end up with 4 different schools in 5 years: base school (2nd grade), AAP center #1 (3rd-4th grade), AAP center #2 (5th-6th grade), middle school.

We have done 4 schools in 5 years with our military child, as have many of our friends. I promise you, it is a difficult thing for a child to face, and requires real effort on the part of the child, the schools and the families to get through that kind of change.

PP, you sound very bitter about the AAP center, and almost gleeful that kids are going to have to change schools. Why don't you spend a few years switching around your kids assigned schools so that your child can be a new kid at school 3-4 times, then come back and tell me if you feel differently about the matter.

No, I'm not bitter. I'm just pointing out that some of you have accepted or embraced multiple school changes in the past for various reasons, but want to treat this proposal as the straw that breaks the camel's back. I happen not to find it particularly convincing.

Well, when you buy a house or sign a multi year lease expecting that your child will finally get to spend 2-3 consecutive years in the same school, and someone changes the rules 1 year into it, yes, that is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I think it sucks any time you have to have a child change schools. Sometimes it can't be helped, but I find FCPS's approach to boundary changes and decisions like the one here to be half-assed at best. I hope that we never have this happen to us. As a child, I went to 5 elementary schools and 3 high schools and it really messed me up. Even worse for my brother.