Does the proposed AAP Changes mean AAP in every MS?

[Anonymous]

They are proposing AAP Centers in the 14 that don't have them. I'm not sure if this means the 14 pyramids that don't have the chance to go to an AAP middle school, or the 14 middle schools that don't offer AAP level classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are proposing AAP Centers in the 14 that don't have them. I'm not sure if this means the 14 pyramids that don't have the chance to go to an AAP middle school, or the 14 middle schools that don't offer AAP level classes?

It means an AAP Center at every middle school. So for middle schools that have no AAP Center, the students at the feeder elementary schools would not go to the assigned AAP Center any longer but would go to the new AAP Center at their base middle school.

For example, see the chart posted by centers and feeder schools:
http://www.fcag.org/documents/level_iv_task_force_recs/aap_enr_by_ctr_fdr.pdf

So the 16 6th grade Center-eligible students in the Mount Vernon pyramid would attend the new AAP Center at Whitman MS instead of attending Sandburg MS' AAP Center.

Fort Belvoir: 3
Mount Vernon Woods: 2
Riverside: 6
Washington Mill: 1
Woodlawn: 3
Woodley Hills: 1

[Anonymous]

At least one of the elementaries in our area is completely losing their AAP center.

I am sure the folks living in that neighborhood have no idea yet.

If I had purchased a home in that school boundary, I would be very, very pissed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least one of the elementaries in our area is completely losing their AAP center.

I am sure the folks living in that neighborhood have no idea yet.

If I had purchased a home in that school boundary, I would be very, very pissed.

I don't think the current proposal includes eliminating any AAP centers...just adding new centers.

[Anonymous]

Yes, as I understand it the task force recommended that every middle school get a "center." I think that is a huge mistake because centers will no longer draw from multiple schools, thereby eliminating the broader peer group and the ability to provide so many extracurricular activities. I don't know the numbers of AAP eligible kids at each middle school but I would doubt that each middle school has sufficient numbers to create robust centers.

I think this middle school recommendation is not getting enough publicity because so many parents are focused on the possibility of their kid moving out of their current elementary school that that is the only section that people are paying attention to. This is a big deal that should get some significant feedback!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are proposing AAP Centers in the 14 that don't have them. I'm not sure if this means the 14 pyramids that don't have the chance to go to an AAP middle school, or the 14 middle schools that don't offer AAP level classes?

It means an AAP Center at every middle school. So for middle schools that have no AAP Center, the students at the feeder elementary schools would not go to the assigned AAP Center any longer but would go to the new AAP Center at their base middle school.

For example, see the chart posted by centers and feeder schools:
http://www.fcag.org/documents/level_iv_task_force_recs/aap_enr_by_ctr_fdr.pdf

So the 16 6th grade Center-eligible students in the Mount Vernon pyramid would attend the new AAP Center at Whitman MS instead of attending Sandburg MS' AAP Center.

Fort Belvoir: 3
Mount Vernon Woods: 2
Riverside: 6
Washington Mill: 1
Woodlawn: 3
Woodley Hills: 1

Have you thought about the possibility that having an AAP center at Whitman might lead to the enrollment of more children in the Local Level IV center or entice more parents who care about education to Mount Vernon feeder schools? The snarkiness of some of these posts is just amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Have you thought about the possibility that having an AAP center at Whitman might lead to the enrollment of more children in the Local Level IV center or entice more parents who care about education to Mount Vernon feeder schools?

Enrollment in Local Level IV centers is handled by the school principal, not FCPS central office staff.

[Anonymous]

FCPS is trying to stay ahead of the Deaprtment of Education, which agreed there was sufficient evidence of disparate access among black and Hispanic students to AAP services in Fairfax to investigate further.

http://coalitionofthesilence.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/press-release-ocr-partial-accepts-9-15.pdf

Of course, the "gifted lobby" in Fairfax, led by the likes of Louise Epstein, does not like this, and will brand any effort to be more inclusive as "idiotic." They believe they are the worthy 1% in society, and they pull in people who don't like to think of themselves as elitists by persuading them that their children need access to special services, routinely denied to minority children, in the same way that diabetics need insulin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At least one of the elementaries in our area is completely losing their AAP center.

I am sure the folks living in that neighborhood have no idea yet.

If I had purchased a home in that school boundary, I would be very, very pissed.

Which school? Is an AAP center that big of a draw? As a parent whose kid is in aap at our base school, I wouldn't mind losing our center, it would mean a lot less overcrowding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS is trying to stay ahead of the Deaprtment of Education, which agreed there was sufficient evidence of disparate access among black and Hispanic students to AAP services in Fairfax to investigate further.

Of course when you look at the iSIS data provided by FCPS staff, the kids that will get the most shortchanged with this new FCPS proposal will be those in the Mount Vernon, Annandale and Stuart pyramids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Have you thought about the possibility that having an AAP center at Whitman might lead to the enrollment of more children in the Local Level IV center or entice more parents who care about education to Mount Vernon feeder schools?

Enrollment in Local Level IV centers is handled by the school principal, not FCPS central office staff.

Not really. Center eligible kids can go to center or LLIV (or stay in base) at their discretion. In some cases, the principle can fill out the class with non-center eligible kids to balance things out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Have you thought about the possibility that having an AAP center at Whitman might lead to the enrollment of more children in the Local Level IV center or entice more parents who care about education to Mount Vernon feeder schools?

Enrollment in Local Level IV centers is handled by the school principal, not FCPS central office staff.

Not really. Center eligible kids can go to center or LLIV (or stay in base) at their discretion. In some cases, the principle can fill out the class with non-center eligible kids to balance things out.

True, but in a majority of cases, students go to the Center vs. stay at the base school. Also, in most cases the principal needs to fill out the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least one of the elementaries in our area is completely losing their AAP center.

I am sure the folks living in that neighborhood have no idea yet.

If I had purchased a home in that school boundary, I would be very, very pissed.

Which school? Is an AAP center that big of a draw? As a parent whose kid is in aap at our base school, I wouldn't mind losing our center, it would mean a lot less overcrowding

It would also mean lower test scores and less demand for properties in your neighborhood because the school would be perceived as "going downhill."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At least one of the elementaries in our area is completely losing their AAP center.
I am sure the folks living in that neighborhood have no idea yet.
If I had purchased a home in that school boundary, I would be very, very pissed.

I don't think the current proposal includes eliminating any AAP centers...just adding new centers.

Perhaps I am reading this wrong, but according to the document online, White Oaks Elementary loses their center. All 200+ kids will go to other schools.

The White Oaks kids will go to Sangster.

Bonnie Brae, Terra Center, Fairview and Laurel Ridge kids will go to an unnamed center in the Robinson pyramid.

Nearly all of the kids attending Springfield Estates Elementary will go to other schools.

Hunter Woods Elementary appears to lose all of its AAP students as well.

Hunter Woods kids will go to Dogwood in South Lakes Pyramid. Navy, Crossfield and Waples Mill will go to Oakton Pyramid.

Why make so many kids accross this entire large county just to deal with the problems at 3 elementary schools? This is a shame.

[Anonymous]

I believe the plan is going to be to include the Hunter's Woods part next year. That's one of the 3 overcrowded AAP centers, right? I think they plant to deal with Haycock, LA and HW next year. The other changes might be phased in later.