At least Paul Ryan has a plan

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guest Ryan and romney will restore the 700 million cut?

It is not a "cut". It is savings realized by Obamacare. The Ryan plan contains the same reductions. Romney will abolish Obamacare. Hence, the savings will not be there. Republicans have so distorted language that "not saving" has become "restore funding".

Yes, it is a cut. Ask providers and hospitals what the end result will be. By the way, it is $716 BILLION. I notice you misstated it and then did not correct others when they repeated your figure in subsequent posts.

Thank you for the correction.

It is not a cut in the manner in which most people understand a cut. Generally, if you tell people funding will be cut, they believe that means the current funding will be reduced by the amount of the cut. That is not what is happening here. Rather, costs were expected to grow. By moving some service from Medicare to Obamacare, those costs will not grow as much. Hence, the future Medicare budget can be reduced. Obamacare does reduce expenditures to providers and hospitals, but those groups signed on to the plan. So, if I ask them what the end result will be, they will likely say that it is something with which they are comfortable.

As the subsequent poster mentioned, Ryan's plan has the same reduction for Medicare. However, instead of providing the services through Obamacare, he passes the bill to seniors.

Finally, when Romney says he will restore the funding, he actually means that he will be forced to make up for money that would have been saved by Obamacare or footed by seniors under the other two plans. Of the three plans, Romney's is the most costly in terms of government spending. Of course, he is supported by people allegedly opposed to increased government spending.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guest Ryan and romney will restore the 700 million cut?

It is not a "cut". It is savings realized by Obamacare. The Ryan plan contains the same reductions. Romney will abolish Obamacare. Hence, the savings will not be there. Republicans have so distorted language that "not saving" has become "restore funding".

Yes, it is a cut. Ask providers and hospitals what the end result will be. By the way, it is $716 BILLION. I notice you misstated it and then did not correct others when they repeated your figure in subsequent posts.

Not sure what you are talking about. It is not a cut to benefits. If you are saying that we should keep paying the same amount for services, and that anything that affects the bottom line of the health care industry is bad, then we might as well stop trying to fix the health care problem at all.

Because there is no way to spend less without spending less.