s/o - let's report "pro-life" posts on fetal anomaly threads instead of responding to them

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Anonymous wrote:IF an opposing viewpoint is so hurtful, then I might suggest that one's decision is not fully made up. LIke the other poster said, " How is it hurtful and offensive to give information? None of the posts in that thread were rude or trying to be intentionally hurtful."

You are being hurtful by trying to shut down real communication.

No, a hurtful choice is still a choice. Just because it hurts, it doesn't mean it wasn't well thought out or that all the possibilities weren't considered. Making the right decision does NOT mean making the decision that makes you feel better.

WEll, then that's all part and parcel of being a grown-up and living with the consequences of our choices, in all areas of our lives. We make certain decisions every day, and consequences ensue. We feel good about some aspects, we feel badly about some aspects. But we live with it. That's life. You cannot go thru life saying, "LA LA LA," to yourself if you face a sad thought or perspetive or voiced opinion about something.

You made your choice. I respect that. Now I as anoather fellow adult can share my opinion on the issue. You can choose to plug your fingers in your ears and go "LALALA" but I can still tell my opinion.

Oh, sure. That's why I make it a point to tell women who have decided to divorce their abusive husbands that they are going to hell, and I describe in detail how, exactly, their children will be traumatized by the divorce. And when someone has decided to stay with their adulterous spouse, I give them detailed descriptions of the spouse's likely sexual liaisons. Because they need to own it. Own it until they feel bad enough to make the choice I want them to make.

I don't feel that way about divorce, but I guess you do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:IF an opposing viewpoint is so hurtful, then I might suggest that one's decision is not fully made up. LIke the other poster said, " How is it hurtful and offensive to give information? None of the posts in that thread were rude or trying to be intentionally hurtful."

You are being hurtful by trying to shut down real communication.

No, a hurtful choice is still a choice. Just because it hurts, it doesn't mean it wasn't well thought out or that all the possibilities weren't considered. Making the right decision does NOT mean making the decision that makes you feel better.

WEll, then that's all part and parcel of being a grown-up and living with the consequences of our choices, in all areas of our lives. We make certain decisions every day, and consequences ensue. We feel good about some aspects, we feel badly about some aspects. But we live with it. That's life. You cannot go thru life saying, "LA LA LA," to yourself if you face a sad thought or perspetive or voiced opinion about something.

You made your choice. I respect that. Now I as anoather fellow adult can share my opinion on the issue. You can choose to plug your fingers in your ears and go "LALALA" but I can still tell my opinion.

Oh, sure. That's why I make it a point to tell women who have decided to divorce their abusive husbands that they are going to hell, and I describe in detail how, exactly, their children will be traumatized by the divorce. And when someone has decided to stay with their adulterous spouse, I give them detailed descriptions of the spouse's likely sexual liaisons. Because they need to own it. Own it until they feel bad enough to make the choice I want them to make.

I don't feel that way about divorce, but I guess you do.

It was a sarcastic analogy.

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It was a sarcastic analogy.

It's not a good one.

[Anonymous]

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It was a sarcastic analogy.

It's not a good one.

Why not?

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And back to your regular point, yes, when people come on here asking about potential divorces, asking about potentially abusive spouses, yes, we flesh out all points of view on all of these topics. The pros and the cons. DCUM doesn't pull punches or molly-coddle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you even an expecting mom, or did you just open those threads to spread your agenda?

Here you go again! I also agree with OP.

[Anonymous]

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It was a sarcastic analogy.

It's not a good one.

Why not?

In your scenario involved someone is being hurt by someone else. Completely different to a choice an adult makes based on preferences or personal opinion.

More like someone divorcing just because they 'have gown apart" or want to explore the grass on the other side of the fence. I can assure you posters would talk about how this could impact the kids to have their family dismantled just because mom feels maybe there is something better out there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:IF an opposing viewpoint is so hurtful, then I might suggest that one's decision is not fully made up. LIke the other poster said, " How is it hurtful and offensive to give information? None of the posts in that thread were rude or trying to be intentionally hurtful."

You are being hurtful by trying to shut down real communication.

this is bullshit. if I'm gay, homophobia is hurtful. If I'm black, racism is hurtful. If I've just decided to make the incredibly painful decision to terminated a wanted pregnancy, then screeds about how I shouldn't KILL BABIES is hurtful.

But if you believe in abortion then it is highly unlikely you consider the fetus to be a baby. Whether you see it as fetal tissue or however you conceptualize it, it has no inherent value of its own which is why it is seen as disposable for reason x,y or z. Therefore talking about babies isn't really relevant or hurtful as if you thought of it as a baby you wouldn't be discarding it. Being hurt by something unrelated to your own perspective doesn't really make sense.

You can't speak for all people of a certain viewpoint. I consider my 22 week old fetus to be a baby - he moves around, has had a strong heartbeat for 16 weeks now, and even responds when I press on him with his own pusch back. But I also understand that some babies are very sick and their mothers believe it is in both of their best interests to terminate the life sooner rather than after a full term of pregnancy. It is a tough decision that I pray I never have to make. Abortion is not so black and white.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It was a sarcastic analogy.

It's not a good one.

Why not?

In your scenario involved someone is being hurt by someone else. Completely different to a choice an adult makes based on preferences or personal opinion.

More like someone divorcing just because they 'have gown apart" or want to explore the grass on the other side of the fence. I can assure you posters would talk about how this could impact the kids to have their family dismantled just because mom feels maybe there is something better out there.

Wow, you are making a lot of assumptions here. But this issue arose because a poster wanted an abortion for medical reasons, not for convenience.

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You can't speak for all people of a certain viewpoint. I consider my 22 week old fetus to be a baby - he moves around, has had a strong heartbeat for 16 weeks now, and even responds when I press on him with his own pusch back. But I also understand that some babies are very sick and their mothers believe it is in both of their best interests to terminate the life sooner rather than after a full term of pregnancy. It is a tough decision that I pray I never have to make. Abortion is not so black and white.

If you can feel your baby move, have heard the heartbeat, and interact with it- but you still think it's a good idea to rip it apart by it's limbs, throw it on a table, and piece it back together; as opposed to letting things occur naturally...then there is something wrong with you. If it's not a baby, and there is no bonding, etc- then okay. I could see how you would just discard it and move on. Not that I think it is right, but that makes more sense. The first viewpoint would make me question your sanity.

[Anonymous]

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You can't speak for all people of a certain viewpoint. I consider my 22 week old fetus to be a baby - he moves around, has had a strong heartbeat for 16 weeks now, and even responds when I press on him with his own pusch back. But I also understand that some babies are very sick and their mothers believe it is in both of their best interests to terminate the life sooner rather than after a full term of pregnancy. It is a tough decision that I pray I never have to make. Abortion is not so black and white.

If you can feel your baby move, have heard the heartbeat, and interact with it- but you still think it's a good idea to rip it apart by it's limbs, throw it on a table, and piece it back together; as opposed to letting things occur naturally...then there is something wrong with you. If it's not a baby, and there is no bonding, etc- then okay. I could see how you would just discard it and move on. Not that I think it is right, but that makes more sense. The first viewpoint would make me question your sanity.

+1

[Anonymous]

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You can't speak for all people of a certain viewpoint. I consider my 22 week old fetus to be a baby - he moves around, has had a strong heartbeat for 16 weeks now, and even responds when I press on him with his own pusch back. But I also understand that some babies are very sick and their mothers believe it is in both of their best interests to terminate the life sooner rather than after a full term of pregnancy. It is a tough decision that I pray I never have to make. Abortion is not so black and white.

If you can feel your baby move, have heard the heartbeat, and interact with it- but you still think it's a good idea to rip it apart by it's limbs, throw it on a table, and piece it back together; as opposed to letting things occur naturally...then there is something wrong with you. If it's not a baby, and there is no bonding, etc- then okay. I could see how you would just discard it and move on. Not that I think it is right, but that makes more sense. The first viewpoint would make me question your sanity.

I'm not the poster you quoted, but I've been questioning your sanity since you started posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You can't speak for all people of a certain viewpoint. I consider my 22 week old fetus to be a baby - he moves around, has had a strong heartbeat for 16 weeks now, and even responds when I press on him with his own pusch back. But I also understand that some babies are very sick and their mothers believe it is in both of their best interests to terminate the life sooner rather than after a full term of pregnancy. It is a tough decision that I pray I never have to make. Abortion is not so black and white.

If you can feel your baby move, have heard the heartbeat, and interact with it- but you still think it's a good idea to rip it apart by it's limbs, throw it on a table, and piece it back together; as opposed to letting things occur naturally...then there is something wrong with you. If it's not a baby, and there is no bonding, etc- then okay. I could see how you would just discard it and move on. Not that I think it is right, but that makes more sense. The first viewpoint would make me question your sanity.

I'm not the poster you quoted, but I've been questioning your sanity since you started posting.

I am not the PP above to whom you are responding, but I quetion the sanity of any woman who would do the above, and not let things progress naturally.

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I am not the PP above to whom you are responding, but I quetion the sanity of any woman who would do the above, and not let things progress naturally.

Right, because everyone should handle a horrifying, difficult situation exactly the way you would. OMG. Why hadn't I thought of that before?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you can feel your baby move, have heard the heartbeat, and interact with it- but you still think it's a good idea to rip it apart by it's limbs, throw it on a table, and piece it back together; as opposed to letting things occur naturally...then there is something wrong with you.

Well, it kind of depends what you mean with "letting things occur naturally" if that means giving birth to a T18 child that will die within a few days after giving birth. Unlike some of the anti-abortion posters I will not go into too much graphic detail, but T18 is a very, very tragic syndrome.

It is not about "something is wrong with you". It is about making choices a parent has to make: what is in the best interest of the unborn child.

From reading your response, you would make another decision -- that is your right. But don't make it sound like it's an easy choice.