Hampden Sydney College

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Yes, women's colleges and HBCs are dinstinct from all-male schools. That's because women and African-Americans continue to experience discrimination in the workplace, while men do not. If women's colleges and HCBs are at a recruiting disadvantage, that doesn't negate the fact that those students who choose to attend those schools get an excellent education and a life-changing experience. H-S is at a recruiting disadvantage b/c it's a mediocre anchronism.

You haven't even remotely made the case that maintaining all female schools or HBCUs addresses or reduces whatever discrimination you believe to persist in the workplace. As to mediocrity, the admissions rate at H-S is considerably lower than at Holllins, an all-female school, and the academic standards are much higher than most HBCUs.

[Anonymous]

Tight knit group of guys who for sure have a good network if you are staying in DC area, Richmond or the south after you graduate. Never been that hard to get in but always been pretty hard to stay in. Excellent rhetoric program. All male is a tough sale these days-- that's why W&L went coed. There are only 4 all male schools in the US at this point. Plenty of girls visit HSC on the weekends though!!!!

[Anonymous]

I attended a coeducational college that had been the brother school to a women's college nearby. The women's college remained single-sex, and in terms of percentages, it was easier to get admitted to the women's college. (You know, assuming you're a woman.) The difficulty of the coursework, however, was the same. Women's colleges have a long tradition of providing an excellent education for a group that was seen by many as not needing any education at all, and as a result the faculty and alumni support standards that may not be apparent from the relative ease of admission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I attended a coeducational college that had been the brother school to a women's college nearby. The women's college remained single-sex, and in terms of percentages, it was easier to get admitted to the women's college. (You know, assuming you're a woman.) The difficulty of the coursework, however, was the same. Women's colleges have a long tradition of providing an excellent education for a group that was seen by many as not needing any education at all, and as a result the faculty and alumni support standards that may not be apparent from the relative ease of admission.

Sounds pretty similar to what 22:41 had to say about H-S, at least with respect to high standards.

[Anonymous]

It' s interesting to note that Vassar, the one 7 Sisters school that has gone coed (Radcliffe doesn't count since it just got swallowed up by Harvard), has a 25% admit rate, but the range of SAT scores for the middle 50% of entering students is comparable to Wellesley's:
for CR and M combined, Vassar 1340-1470 and Wellesley 1310-1465. So, while Wellesley's selectivity may have decreased somewhat by remaining a single-gender school, it is still quite competitive with other top SLACs. OTOH, the range for H-S is 1015-1220, considerably lower than either Vassar or Wellesley.

[Anonymous]

I don't think anyone was trying To say HSC is the male Wellesley. It's totally different! The correct comparison would probably be the male Sweetbriar. It's a southern school-- I did just read that it was voted the prepiest college in the USA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It' s interesting to note that Vassar, the one 7 Sisters school that has gone coed (Radcliffe doesn't count since it just got swallowed up by Harvard), has a 25% admit rate, but the range of SAT scores for the middle 50% of entering students is comparable to Wellesley's:
for CR and M combined, Vassar 1340-1470 and Wellesley 1310-1465. So, while Wellesley's selectivity may have decreased somewhat by remaining a single-gender school, it is still quite competitive with other top SLACs. OTOH, the range for H-S is 1015-1220, considerably lower than either Vassar or Wellesley.

Wellesley is less selective than some other LACs. H-S is not one of them. It is also less selective than it would be if it were co-ed.

[Anonymous]

PP, You have a real flair for the obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, You have a real flair for the obvious.

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And you have a flair for the irrelevant. Stop hijacking the thread.

[Anonymous]

The thread is about HSC not Wellesley. You are the Hijacker. Of course HSC would be more selective if it was Coed. I think maybe the third coment was that single sex college is a hard sell, especially for boys. That would probably be why there are only 4 all Male colleges left in the USA. To state the obvious once again. This thread is about experiences with HSC, if you do not have any do not reply.

[Anonymous]

Male here, browsing for fun. You women are just too funny! Snarky, bitchy, data-obsessed (w/o a good grounding in quant) and, I'm guessing, non-salaried with all that fancy education...at the right ranking...over which you obsess.

thanks for the entertainment!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thread is about HSC not Wellesley. You are the Hijacker. Of course HSC would be more selective if it was Coed. I think maybe the third coment was that single sex college is a hard sell, especially for boys. That would probably be why there are only 4 all Male colleges left in the USA. To state the obvious once again. This thread is about experiences with HSC, if you do not have any do not reply.

You're responding to multiple posters -- all of whom found the comparison between HSC and Wellesley misleading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a grad who is a successful doctor and a very kind and nice man. HS has a very high rate of students who get advanced degrees.

Do his first and last names start with the same two letters? If so, I knew him in college, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there's an element of truth in some of the prior posts. It's harder to sell single-sex schools to students now, so Hampden-Sydney isn't as selective as it used to be, yet it's also an expensive private college. So it does end up with some immature rich kids.

What some DCUMers may not realize, though, is that there are Southern families who have a great deal of reverence for the traditions at schools like Hampden-Sydney, W&L, the Citadel and VMI (and, yes, I know W&L is now coed and that the Citadel and VMI are quasi-military). They believe that these schools will develop the character of their sons in the same way that some parents along the Boston-Washington corredor believe that schools like Wellesley and Smith will develop the intellect of their daughters.

This is not an apt comparison. Wellesley is ranked #6 among liberal arts colleges in the US News survey; H-S is ranked #94. Wellesley has a highly diverse student body, drawn from all over the country and throughout the world. Hampden-Sydney is a regional school.

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HS is like the small liberal arts colleges in NY and MA that most of you probably haven't heard of down here but proud parents up there also like to compare to Wellesley or Smith.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thread is about HSC not Wellesley. You are the Hijacker. Of course HSC would be more selective if it was Coed. I think maybe the third coment was that single sex college is a hard sell, especially for boys. That would probably be why there are only 4 all Male colleges left in the USA. To state the obvious once again. This thread is about experiences with HSC, if you do not have any do not reply.

You're responding to multiple posters -- all of whom found the comparison between HSC and Wellesley misleading.

And multiple posters accepted that both schools lose many potential applicants because they are single-sex applicants, while acknowledging that some people still seek them out for precisely that reason.

It's not a misleading point. It's simply that some Wellesley alums are elitist snobs who get into a tizzy whenever their school is discussed in the same sentence as a lesser ranked school. Get over yourselves. The liberal arts education that you received was not that much better than what a male graduate of H-S receives.