What cities get the most trash talk?

Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Don't fool yourself. It's not equally expensive.
Per the Post To be considered part of the 1 percent in this area, it takes a household income far above the national average of $387,000. The gateway for the region is $527,000. In the District, the top 1 percent of households bring in at least $617,000; in Montgomery County, more than $606,000; and in Fairfax County, $532,000, according to an analysis of census statistics by The Washington Post and Sentier Research, a firm that specializes in income data.

So you need about $100k more to live in NWDC when compared with Virginia. That's why there are so many Virginia haters. They can't afford it.


You are providing data about income and then reaching a conclusion about expenses. While you conclusion may be correct, it is not supported by your data. What the data illustrates is that more wealth is required to be in the top 1 percent in the District. To make a conclusion about expenses, you need data regarding cost of living.


I agree with the PP here. It is only more expensive to live in NWDC if you have kids to send to middle/high school. In terms of quality of housing, the prices are not that much off between close-in burbs and the parts of NWDC.

In both of these places if you look at homes in 800K range it's pretty much crap. It's not like you are going to get an updated colonial 3000 or more sq.ft with manicured yard, you will get a shitty rambler or a split level with tiny rooms and minuscule master shower stalls covered in pink tile. Most likely this also will need repairs, not just the cosmetic upgrades. What you are getting more in the burbs is a larger yard, better parking, but not necessarily a larger, better quality, or better updated home. And if you don't have kids or dead set on sending them to a private school anyway, then the cost of living in the burbs most likely wont' be cheaper for you if buying your own home. In fact it might be cheaper to live near a metro line in NWDC and only have 1 car vs. 2, spend less time/money on yard maintenance, gas to drive to places, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Don't fool yourself. It's not equally expensive.
Per the Post To be considered part of the 1 percent in this area, it takes a household income far above the national average of $387,000. The gateway for the region is $527,000. In the District, the top 1 percent of households bring in at least $617,000; in Montgomery County, more than $606,000; and in Fairfax County, $532,000, according to an analysis of census statistics by The Washington Post and Sentier Research, a firm that specializes in income data.

So you need about $100k more to live in NWDC when compared with Virginia. That's why there are so many Virginia haters. They can't afford it.


You are providing data about income and then reaching a conclusion about expenses. While you conclusion may be correct, it is not supported by your data. What the data illustrates is that more wealth is required to be in the top 1 percent in the District. To make a conclusion about expenses, you need data regarding cost of living.


I agree with the PP here. It is only more expensive to live in NWDC if you have kids to send to middle/high school. In terms of quality of housing, the prices are not that much off between close-in burbs and the parts of NWDC.

In both of these places if you look at homes in 800K range it's pretty much crap. It's not like you are going to get an updated colonial 3000 or more sq.ft with manicured yard, you will get a shitty rambler or a split level with tiny rooms and minuscule master shower stalls covered in pink tile. Most likely this also will need repairs, not just the cosmetic upgrades. What you are getting more in the burbs is a larger yard, better parking, but not necessarily a larger, better quality, or better updated home. And if you don't have kids or dead set on sending them to a private school anyway, then the cost of living in the burbs most likely wont' be cheaper for you if buying your own home. In fact it might be cheaper to live near a metro line in NWDC and only have 1 car vs. 2, spend less time/money on yard maintenance, gas to drive to places, etc.


But then you're not comparing apples to Apples. For example the more expensive houses in the District are in areas that have little or NO metro access. Ever seen a Metro stop on Foxhall Road or in the Palisades? No. So you're playing with selective statistics. You can't compare Columbia Heights with the Reserve (McLean). The Reserve is closer to Philips Park and Philips Park is still more expensive. But this is a minor point and we're deviating from the main question of the OP. Why do people trash NWDC so much?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Don't fool yourself. It's not equally expensive.
Per the Post To be considered part of the 1 percent in this area, it takes a household income far above the national average of $387,000. The gateway for the region is $527,000. In the District, the top 1 percent of households bring in at least $617,000; in Montgomery County, more than $606,000; and in Fairfax County, $532,000, according to an analysis of census statistics by The Washington Post and Sentier Research, a firm that specializes in income data.

So you need about $100k more to live in NWDC when compared with Virginia. That's why there are so many Virginia haters. They can't afford it.


You are providing data about income and then reaching a conclusion about expenses. While you conclusion may be correct, it is not supported by your data. What the data illustrates is that more wealth is required to be in the top 1 percent in the District. To make a conclusion about expenses, you need data regarding cost of living.


I agree with the PP here. It is only more expensive to live in NWDC if you have kids to send to middle/high school. In terms of quality of housing, the prices are not that much off between close-in burbs and the parts of NWDC.

In both of these places if you look at homes in 800K range it's pretty much crap. It's not like you are going to get an updated colonial 3000 or more sq.ft with manicured yard, you will get a shitty rambler or a split level with tiny rooms and minuscule master shower stalls covered in pink tile. Most likely this also will need repairs, not just the cosmetic upgrades. What you are getting more in the burbs is a larger yard, better parking, but not necessarily a larger, better quality, or better updated home. And if you don't have kids or dead set on sending them to a private school anyway, then the cost of living in the burbs most likely wont' be cheaper for you if buying your own home. In fact it might be cheaper to live near a metro line in NWDC and only have 1 car vs. 2, spend less time/money on yard maintenance, gas to drive to places, etc.


But then you're not comparing apples to Apples. For example the more expensive houses in the District are in areas that have little or NO metro access. Ever seen a Metro stop on Foxhall Road or in the Palisades? No. So you're playing with selective statistics. You can't compare Columbia Heights with the Reserve (McLean). The Reserve is closer to Philips Park and Philips Park is still more expensive. But this is a minor point and we're deviating from the main question of the OP. Why do people trash NWDC so much?


I don't think OP's main question has anything to do with NWDC. The question is which areas (towns) get trashed the most, you are making an assumption that NWDC is universally getting more attention as far as trashing is concerned and I don't think it's true. I can pretty much sense a lot of competitive trashing around between the NWDC and the closer in more urban parts of Arlington and say they get sort of equal amount of trashing. it could be that same type of people consider living in both and make a choice for one vs. the other. I also guess that money is not a real issue here, it's just people naturally want to justify they've made the right choice by trashing the other areas they like and considered living in but decided otherwise.

Same with exclusive areas, there are such areas in the city and in the suburbs. So, how one decides to live in one vs. the other given money is no object and will these people trash the other area they haven't chosen if favor of the one they decided to live in?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
But then you're not comparing apples to Apples. For example the more expensive houses in the District are in areas that have little or NO metro access. Ever seen a Metro stop on Foxhall Road or in the Palisades? No. So you're playing with selective statistics. You can't compare Columbia Heights with the Reserve (McLean). The Reserve is closer to Philips Park and Philips Park is still more expensive. But this is a minor point and we're deviating from the main question of the OP. Why do people trash NWDC so much?


Actually, the Reserve is as expensive as Phillips Park:

http://franklymls.com/FX7385183

Perhaps NWDC gets trashed because it has too many residents who care about who's in the top .01% (forget about the top 1% or top 5%), when they probably just deserve a five-figure salary.
Anonymous
It may not get the most trash talk, but there is one poster of late who seems to have a real case of the ass about Capitol Hill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
But then you're not comparing apples to Apples. For example the more expensive houses in the District are in areas that have little or NO metro access. Ever seen a Metro stop on Foxhall Road or in the Palisades? No. So you're playing with selective statistics. You can't compare Columbia Heights with the Reserve (McLean). The Reserve is closer to Philips Park and Philips Park is still more expensive. But this is a minor point and we're deviating from the main question of the OP. Why do people trash NWDC so much?


Actually, the Reserve is as expensive as Phillips Park:

http://franklymls.com/FX7385183

Perhaps NWDC gets trashed because it has too many residents who care about who's in the top .01% (forget about the top 1% or top 5%), when they probably just deserve a five-figure salary.


Per square foot it's cheaper. But even funnier is that it's been on the market for 700 days. Now that's what I call a self defeating post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC. Most of the posters are from the suburbs.


True. Most posters can't afford NWDC. The jealousy is so apparent.


LMAO! I live in McLean because it is OBVIOUSLY better. It's like comparing a beat up toyota truck from Afghanistan to a shiney, new BMW.



Mmmm, sorry no. The beat up toyota trucks are found in the driveways of McLean, VA. The new BMWs are found in Georgetown, Dupont, Capitol Hill, Chevy Chase DC, AU Park.... and I could go on. Wishful thinking has the poster confused and disoriented.


You clearly missed the issue of The Washingtonian (March? April?) that showed that the most expensive homes in the area were mostly in McLean. AU Park doesn't even begin to compare, and Capitol Hill is just laughable.

There are no proverbial beat up Toyotas in McLean--the average home price is $900k, and that won't buy you much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC. Most of the posters are from the suburbs.


True. Most posters can't afford NWDC. The jealousy is so apparent.


LMAO! I live in McLean because it is OBVIOUSLY better. It's like comparing a beat up toyota truck from Afghanistan to a shiney, new BMW.



Mmmm, sorry no. The beat up toyota trucks are found in the driveways of McLean, VA. The new BMWs are found in Georgetown, Dupont, Capitol Hill, Chevy Chase DC, AU Park.... and I could go on. Wishful thinking has the poster confused and disoriented.


You clearly missed the issue of The Washingtonian (March? April?) that showed that the most expensive homes in the area were mostly in McLean. AU Park doesn't even begin to compare, and Capitol Hill is just laughable.

There are no proverbial beat up Toyotas in McLean--the average home price is $900k, and that won't buy you much.


Sorry. Wrong. McLean is... lame and a total yawn-fest.
Yes, comparing McLean to great neighborhoods in the district like AU Park, Chevy Chase, Capitol Hill, and Georgetown is, indeed, laughable. I have never heard of anyone wanting to go all the way over to McLean because there is nothing to see or enjoy..... but enjoy your traffic (you need to love traffic if you live out there!)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC. Most of the posters are from the suburbs.


True. Most posters can't afford NWDC. The jealousy is so apparent.


LMAO! I live in McLean because it is OBVIOUSLY better. It's like comparing a beat up toyota truck from Afghanistan to a shiney, new BMW.



Mmmm, sorry no. The beat up toyota trucks are found in the driveways of McLean, VA. The new BMWs are found in Georgetown, Dupont, Capitol Hill, Chevy Chase DC, AU Park.... and I could go on. Wishful thinking has the poster confused and disoriented.


You clearly missed the issue of The Washingtonian (March? April?) that showed that the most expensive homes in the area were mostly in McLean. AU Park doesn't even begin to compare, and Capitol Hill is just laughable.

There are no proverbial beat up Toyotas in McLean--the average home price is $900k, and that won't buy you much.


Actually MOST of the houses were in NW. Yes not AU park but in Mass Ave Heights, Spring Valley, Kent, georgetown. I have that issue on my coffee table. Stop trying to pretzel facts.
Anonymous


Actually, the Reserve is as expensive as Phillips Park:

http://franklymls.com/FX7385183

Perhaps NWDC gets trashed because it has too many residents who care about who's in the top .01% (forget about the top 1% or top 5%), when they probably just deserve a five-figure salary.

Per square foot it's cheaper. But even funnier is that it's been on the market for 700 days. Now that's what I call a self defeating post.


That home is hideous! Self defeating post is right! Love the low walk score and the fact that it's clearly not selling. Are we supposed to think that this is desirable?
Anonymous
Great Falls and McLean are the two most expensive zip codes in the DC area. 11 of the 50 most expensive homes in the region, including the three most expensive, are in McLean. Only one neighborhood in DC has more - Mass Ave Heights. Nothing else comes close, and certainly not places like AU Park. And, of course, the schools in McLean are superior and the taxes are lower.

No surprise there are plenty of jealous DC residents bashing it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Mmmm, sorry no. The beat up toyota trucks are found in the driveways of McLean, VA. The new BMWs are found in Georgetown, Dupont, Capitol Hill, Chevy Chase DC, AU Park.... and I could go on. Wishful thinking has the poster confused and disoriented.


You clearly missed the issue of The Washingtonian (March? April?) that showed that the most expensive homes in the area were mostly in McLean. AU Park doesn't even begin to compare, and Capitol Hill is just laughable.

There are no proverbial beat up Toyotas in McLean--the average home price is $900k, and that won't buy you much.



I thought the Washingtonian said Capitol Hill is the best neighborhood-20003 specifically. Maybe Washingtonian didn't think it had the most expensive homes, but it Did compare Capitol hill to other neighborhoods in the metro area and Found it the best neighborhood, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC. Most of the posters are from the suburbs.


True. Most posters can't afford NWDC. The jealousy is so apparent.


LMAO! I live in McLean because it is OBVIOUSLY better. It's like comparing a beat up toyota truck from Afghanistan to a shiney, new BMW.



Mmmm, sorry no. The beat up toyota trucks are found in the driveways of McLean, VA. The new BMWs are found in Georgetown, Dupont, Capitol Hill, Chevy Chase DC, AU Park.... and I could go on. Wishful thinking has the poster confused and disoriented.


You clearly missed the issue of The Washingtonian (March? April?) that showed that the most expensive homes in the area were mostly in McLean. AU Park doesn't even begin to compare, and Capitol Hill is just laughable.

There are no proverbial beat up Toyotas in McLean--the average home price is $900k, and that won't buy you much.


Sorry. Wrong. McLean is... lame and a total yawn-fest.
Yes, comparing McLean to great neighborhoods in the district like AU Park, Chevy Chase, Capitol Hill, and Georgetown is, indeed, laughable. I have never heard of anyone wanting to go all the way over to McLean because there is nothing to see or enjoy..... but enjoy your traffic (you need to love traffic if you live out there!)


You must not have kids. Yes DC is great if you dont have kids or better yet are single. Once you have kids DC even the most affluent areas are not good for kids compared to bethesda, chevy chase, mclean and great falls. The main thing you want to protect your children from is violent crime and also the offspring of criminalas classmates. Try looking at the the crime heat maps for the most expensive neighborhoods in DC vs the subrban ones and you will see a great difference.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


I thought the Washingtonian said Capitol Hill is the best neighborhood-20003 specifically. Maybe Washingtonian didn't think it had the most expensive homes, but it Did compare Capitol hill to other neighborhoods in the metro area and Found it the best neighborhood, right?


I don't know. Did It maybe? Is that Why someone posts all the Crime reports for CApitol Hill?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC. Most of the posters are from the suburbs.


True. Most posters can't afford NWDC. The jealousy is so apparent.


LMAO! I live in McLean because it is OBVIOUSLY better. It's like comparing a beat up toyota truck from Afghanistan to a shiney, new BMW.



Mmmm, sorry no. The beat up toyota trucks are found in the driveways of McLean, VA. The new BMWs are found in Georgetown, Dupont, Capitol Hill, Chevy Chase DC, AU Park.... and I could go on. Wishful thinking has the poster confused and disoriented.


You clearly missed the issue of The Washingtonian (March? April?) that showed that the most expensive homes in the area were mostly in McLean. AU Park doesn't even begin to compare, and Capitol Hill is just laughable.

There are no proverbial beat up Toyotas in McLean--the average home price is $900k, and that won't buy you much.


Sorry. Wrong. McLean is... lame and a total yawn-fest.
Yes, comparing McLean to great neighborhoods in the district like AU Park, Chevy Chase, Capitol Hill, and Georgetown is, indeed, laughable. I have never heard of anyone wanting to go all the way over to McLean because there is nothing to see or enjoy..... but enjoy your traffic (you need to love traffic if you live out there!)


You must not have kids. Yes DC is great if you dont have kids or better yet are single. Once you have kids DC even the most affluent areas are not good for kids compared to bethesda, chevy chase, mclean and great falls. The main thing you want to protect your children from is violent crime and also the offspring of criminalas classmates. Try looking at the the crime heat maps for the most expensive neighborhoods in DC vs the subrban ones and you will see a great difference.


You truly are the village idiot. A poor one at that.
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