Care to know how much $$$$ the administration at your school is raking in?! Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's post info on all the schools we can find.

Oh really? You are willing to risk your job by posting your schools salaries? In theory it is a great idea but it would get us all fired.

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Why is there a difference between what the LS, MS, and US Directors make at these schools? They work equally as hard. I can understand why US because they have more students and staff to manage but why LS and MS?

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Anonymous wrote:The boards of these schools need to decide whether they are getting their money's worth, of course. Assuming that they make that determination, I really can't fathom why compensation for experienced, talented educators with lots of responsibility should be considered "disgusting." I mean, how does this compensation compare to that of many partners at major law firms? And not to belittle what lawyers do, but doesn't the head of school have an equally signficant responsibility (if not more) and hopefully positive influence on the lives of students?

I don't think that the board at our school gives a damn about the teachers. I've never seen one visit the classroom and all i ever hear from them is how much it boers them that the teachers want higher pay. Come to think of it my HOS has never visited my classroom either.

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Anonymous wrote:The boards of these schools need to decide whether they are getting their money's worth, of course. Assuming that they make that determination, I really can't fathom why compensation for experienced, talented educators with lots of responsibility should be considered "disgusting." I mean, how does this compensation compare to that of many partners at major law firms? And not to belittle what lawyers do, but doesn't the head of school have an equally signficant responsibility (if not more) and hopefully positive influence on the lives of students?

I don't think that the board at our school gives a damn about the teachers. I've never seen one visit the classroom and all i ever hear from them is how much it boers them that the teachers want higher pay. Come to think of it my HOS has never visited my classroom either.

You sound just slightly disgruntled . . . with a dash of bitter on the side. Be careful what you wish for -- maybe your HOS will visit your classroom and decide you are ineffectual and need to go.

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Anonymous wrote:The boards of these schools need to decide whether they are getting their money's worth, of course. Assuming that they make that determination, I really can't fathom why compensation for experienced, talented educators with lots of responsibility should be considered "disgusting." I mean, how does this compensation compare to that of many partners at major law firms? And not to belittle what lawyers do, but doesn't the head of school have an equally signficant responsibility (if not more) and hopefully positive influence on the lives of students?

I don't think that the board at our school gives a damn about the teachers. I've never seen one visit the classroom and all i ever hear from them is how much it boers them that the teachers want higher pay. Come to think of it my HOS has never visited my classroom either.

Boards are not supposed to get involved in the classroom and the day to day running of the school. That is the HOS job and the Board oversees the head. Boards set policy and long term direction and raise money.

[Anonymous]

True, PP--board members don't go sit in classrooms. Most Heads don't either--Dept. Chairs and Division heads do the teacher evaluations.

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Holton head of lower school should be paid more -- he is great ...

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Teachers work for about 9 months a year. Administrators tend to work a full-time+ schedule all year long.

That's pure bull

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers work for about 9 months a year. Administrators tend to work a full-time+ schedule all year long.

That's pure bull

At our school teachers are gone over winter and spring break but top admin works most of that time. Top admin also works over the summer. Seems pretty standard for the independent schools in this area. So I'm not sure why PP thinks the assertion that admin are year-round employees and teachers aren't is inaccurate.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers work for about 9 months a year. Administrators tend to work a full-time+ schedule all year long.

That's pure bull

At our school teachers are gone over winter and spring break but top admin works most of that time. Top admin also works over the summer. Seems pretty standard for the independent schools in this area. So I'm not sure why PP thinks the assertion that admin are year-round employees and teachers aren't is inaccurate.

Admins take many weeks off during the summer. When it is all worked out, teachers might work about 4 weeks less than admins. But teachers make about half the salary.

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Anonymous wrote:Holton head of lower school should be paid more -- he is great ...

The salaries listed by OP for Sidwell are from 2004. More current tax returns have not been made public. I am sure your head of lower school is making much more now as the salaries for top admins have risen dramatically recently (as have the tuition amounts...coincidence???). Why are the current records not available? Go ask your school. Are they now filing as a religious organization and therefore do not need to release info?

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While I agree that teachers should be paid more, I think it's wrong to suggest that the administration doesn't contribute to the quality of the education that a school offers.

Basically a good administrator can play a crucial role in shaping who is on staff, how they interact (with each other, with kids, with parents, with other adminstrators, etc.), and what the school values and rewards as well as what it will not tolerate. I love the GDS middle school, for example, and everything I see suggests that its principal has played a major role in making the school what it is.

[Anonymous]

The issue is that these school are paying much, much higher salaries to their admins than their teachers. Do admins work hard and deserve to be paid well? Sure. The pay seems to be on par or slightly above similar positions in public schools. However, the pay for teachers is much less even if you factor in summers off. This reflects poorly on the priorities of these schools IMO.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is that these school are paying much, much higher salaries to their admins than their teachers. Do admins work hard and deserve to be paid well? Sure. The pay seems to be on par or slightly above similar positions in public schools. However, the pay for teachers is much less even if you factor in summers off. This reflects poorly on the priorities of these schools IMO.

Do law firm partners work harder than your garbage man? I don't think so. There really is no rational reason for salary inequities.

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I work in administration and probably make a little more than a teacher with the same number of years of service. I do work year round. I do have an education comparable or superior to those of top faculty.

I'll tell you one enormous benefit that the faculty receive from the community on Day 1 that I've had to work years for: respect. Good administrators (from deans to admissions officers to development to facility directors) all love the school and work hard to enrich the experience for every student and parent. But, we're typically seen as over-compensated, expendable bureaucrats by parents. The Heads of School knows differently and that's why they work to retain the more experienced among us.