And Now Costo & Target Organic Milk is NOT Organic at all! ARGH....

Anonymous
not sure if this helps.... http://www.ahold.com/page/2463.aspx
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How can one find out what company makes store brand products. I'm interested in how organic is Giant's own brand organic milk.


Check the Cornucopia Institute site. They rate a lot of private labels; not sure if Giant is among them.
Anonymous
I like Wegman's Organic milk. Since it's pretty local its not highly pasteurized and thus has many more nutrients.

Organic Valley is also rated high, and it's available at Giant, HT, Wegmans, etc.

Anonymous
'Nature's Promise' is a con. Their chicken is not organic or free range for example.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:'Nature's Promise' is a con. Their chicken is not organic or free range for example.


They don't say they are. Some stuff is labeled organic and some is labeled natural.
Anonymous
Mother effer! Horizon totally duped me all along!
Anonymous
I am confused. My reasons for buying organic milk are purely health reasons--specifically, I want no antibiotics or growth hormones in the milk. My agenda isn't to support family farms or to make sure cows are treated better than cows giving conventional milk. (Don't get me wrong--I have nothing against those issues, of course, they just aren't my priority when I buy groceries, whereas health is.) So for my purposes, all the brands being excoriated here still are organic enough, correct? That is to say that they use no antibiotics or hormones? Thanks.

Anonymous
PP again--I just noticed that someone revived this thread and that it was really old! Oh well, I guess my question is still relevant.
Anonymous
Hi PP, I didn't realize thread was old, either. In any event, I think that the milk is "organic enough" for your purposes. Indeed, I'd even say it is organic. Period. To me, organic means no antibiotics or hormones.

I prefer milk from grass fed, humanely raised cows. But, I don't assume the organic label will encompass that. So, I look for a separate indicator of those qualities.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am confused. My reasons for buying organic milk are purely health reasons--specifically, I want no antibiotics or growth hormones in the milk. My agenda isn't to support family farms or to make sure cows are treated better than cows giving conventional milk. (Don't get me wrong--I have nothing against those issues, of course, they just aren't my priority when I buy groceries, whereas health is.) So for my purposes, all the brands being excoriated here still are organic enough, correct? That is to say that they use no antibiotics or hormones? Thanks.



I can't answer your question but I agree with you to some extent about supporting family farms (I would like to but not my main motivation). My neighborhood mom's list-serv was having an ongoing email discussion about organic foods and free range chicken or chicken that is less processed, hormone free, etc. A few people seemed to equate "major corporation" with bad and thought you should only get those products from small family farms.

I personally think this is silly. If big corporations are doing it correctly I am fine with buying the product. I love that Wal-mart carries organic foods - it means more people in this country will have affordable access to these foods. Isn't that what we want? Isn't that the goal? I pay a premium for this stuff because it is a healthy priority for us, but it EXPENSIVE because we often shop at Whole Foods for some things. I just think it's silly to roll your eyes at big corporations. They are only reacting to consumer demand, and as long as the follow the rules and supply a good product, I'm fine with buying it. And I feel like it will help bring the cost down so that EVERYONE can enjoy these foods and we can begin to the end the crazy reality that McDonald's dollar menu provides people with a deal and they see value in it. Until we can compete without the nation will keep getting fatter and unhealthier.

Oh, and I learned from watching Food Inc. that Stonyfield started small and was bought my a big corporation, and the small farmer hippie owner was thrilled for exactly the reasons I listed - that his good products were getting to the masses. He said at one point he was preaching to the choir - the only people who were buying his products were other "hippie" communes, and Wal-Mart buying his products was a huge boost because he felt his message was reaching a lot of people and families.
Anonymous
Stop the presses! Eegads. The horror.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am confused. My reasons for buying organic milk are purely health reasons--specifically, I want no antibiotics or growth hormones in the milk. My agenda isn't to support family farms or to make sure cows are treated better than cows giving conventional milk. (Don't get me wrong--I have nothing against those issues, of course, they just aren't my priority when I buy groceries, whereas health is.) So for my purposes, all the brands being excoriated here still are organic enough, correct? That is to say that they use no antibiotics or hormones? Thanks.




Wow, you read my mind. I agree with you completely -- I want it for no hormones or antibiotics, and while I'm not against the other reasons, I'm not entirely in it for that. I wish someone would answer the bolded question above?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am confused. My reasons for buying organic milk are purely health reasons--specifically, I want no antibiotics or growth hormones in the milk. My agenda isn't to support family farms or to make sure cows are treated better than cows giving conventional milk. (Don't get me wrong--I have nothing against those issues, of course, they just aren't my priority when I buy groceries, whereas health is.) So for my purposes, all the brands being excoriated here still are organic enough, correct? That is to say that they use no antibiotics or hormones? Thanks.




Wow, you read my mind. I agree with you completely -- I want it for no hormones or antibiotics, and while I'm not against the other reasons, I'm not entirely in it for that. I wish someone would answer the bolded question above?


Often you will find that organic milk is ULTRA pasturized. This is because often organically raised cows are kept in conditions that conventional cows are kept in...mistreated and confined. This brings stress on the animal and is a breeding ground for infection and disease and often leads to infections, such as mastitis and often a lot of PUSS gets in the milk. These cows would normally be treated with antibiotics, however the organic cows are not. Since the milk can have MORE bacteria and disease, then they have to ultrapasturize it in order to stanitize it.

So for me, yes, I do care how the animals are treated and handled. If it came down to it I'd rather the conventional cow that was treated for its diseases than the organic one that is simply still confined, but left untreated.

When I buy organic, I go out of my way to make sure the milk is just pasturized (for instance, Wegman's organic brand only comes from small farms and is only pasturized). Normally, though I buy my milk in glass bottles at a local health foods store that comes from Amish farms in PA.

I don't think people really get the fact that healthy animals are healthier for our children. If you were a hunter, would you hunt the diseased animal and bring it home to the dinner table or would you hunt the healthy animal? If you could actually SEE your food alive before it hit your table, would you really want to eat an animal that looked unhealthy?
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I have no more faith in the dairy industry. I switched to almond milk.
Anonymous
We buy organic milk from grass fed cows. Snowville Creamery, a small farm in Ohio.
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