Babies say thank you to Virginia

[Anonymous]

I read the Subject line too fast and thought it said "Babies say thank you to vagina"

that would make sense at least.

[Anonymous]

For me, it is about quality of life rather than quantity of life. Why should the goal just be to make sure as many children are born as possible, like animals? Shouldn't we rather control our reproduction and make sure that each child can grow up in a healthy loving environment with access to high quality education and health care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here are the 2005 results. $ per pupil and NAEP scores. There is zero statistical correlation.

State 2005 per pupil spending 2005 NAEP score
AK $10830 980
AL 7066 947
AR 7504 983
AZ 6261 966
CA 8067 956
CO 7730 1,009
CT 11572 1,013
DC 12979 885
DE 10910 1,013
FL 7207 988
GA 8028 977
HI 8997 955
IA 7972 1,012
ID 6283 1,009
IL 8944 991
IN 8798 1,001
KS 7706 1,017
KY 7118 989
LA 7605 960
MA 11267 1,044
MD 9815 997
ME 10106 1,017
MI 9329 1,004
MN 8662 1,029
MO 7717 997
MS 6575 944
MT 8058 1,021
NC 7159 998
ND 8159 1,025
NE 8282 1,010
NH 9448 1,028
NJ 13800 1,020
NM 7580 945
NV 6722 960
NY 14119 1,006
OH 9260 1,015
OK 6613 979
OR 8115 1,000
PA 10552 1,012
RI 10371 982
SC 7555 989
SD 7197 1,020
TN 6729 976
TX 7267 1,000
US 8701 992
UT 5257 1,001
VA 8891 1,018
VT 11835 1,027
WA 7560 1,015
WI 9744 1,013
WV 9005 970
WY 10255 1,016

Again, way to dodge the whole issue of actually caring for children AFTER they are born...

[Anonymous]

For me, it is about quality of life rather than quantity of life. Why should the goal just be to make sure as many children are born as possible, like animals? Shouldn't we rather control our reproduction and make sure that each child can grow up in a healthy loving environment with access to high quality education and health care?

But every sperm is sacred! And women who have sex should be forced to have babies because if they spread their legs and enjoy it they should be forced to live with the consequences!

OP, my baby now thanks me, not Virginia. Because if I had to continue my pregnancy 18 years ago, I would have been kicked out of my house by my super-religious family. And I would have never met my husband and had him, a very much planned, loved baby who will grow up in a healthy loving environment with access to high quality education and health care.

[Anonymous]

I became a Democrat after realizing most Republican pro-life folks are pro-life from the moment of conception to the moment of birth.

I'll settle for a President who can oversee a reduction in the abortion rate -- Clinton -- instead of someone who mutters the right words yet oversees an INCREASE in the abortion rate -- Bush 2.

[Anonymous]

How can a nation that is at war obsess about womens pregnancies.
Family men are struggling to get by and provide for their families in war zones, and it is american politicians who make their land into a war zone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For me, it is about quality of life rather than quantity of life. Why should the goal just be to make sure as many children are born as possible, like animals? Shouldn't we rather control our reproduction and make sure that each child can grow up in a healthy loving environment with access to high quality education and health care?

But every sperm is sacred! And women who have sex should be forced to have babies because if they spread their legs and enjoy it they should be forced to live with the consequences!

OP, my baby now thanks me, not Virginia. Because if I had to continue my pregnancy 18 years ago, I would have been kicked out of my house by my super-religious family. And I would have never met my husband and had him, a very much planned, loved baby who will grow up in a healthy loving environment with access to high quality education and health care.

again, you miss the point. the baby deserves a voice too, and its life is just as important as the mother's. why do you always annoy the rights of the baby? I don't understand it.

[Anonymous]

This law means that abortion clinics will now be subject to the State's Certificate of Need process, which determines where and how many hospitals should be located throughout the state to meet the citizens' needs. It will be very easy for the State to now shut down as many abortion clinics as it wants by saying they are unnecessary, and it will be done solely by the Executive Branch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This law means that abortion clinics will now be subject to the State's Certificate of Need process, which determines where and how many hospitals should be located throughout the state to meet the citizens' needs. It will be very easy for the State to now shut down as many abortion clinics as it wants by saying they are unnecessary, and it will be done solely by the Executive Branch.

Ain't gonna happen. I don't know if this is your hope or your fear, but it is not going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:again, you miss the point. the baby deserves a voice too, and its life is just as important as the mother's. why do you always annoy the rights of the baby? I don't understand it.

We who disagree with your point do not necessarily miss it. It's pretentious to believe that anyone with intelligence has to agree with you, and that only you have the authority to determine what it THE point.

Please note, I'm not saying you are wrong, just that I, and many thought ful people have a different view than you and the many thoughtful people who agree with you.

It's a damn tough issue and I think we'd all be better off if we considered ourselves allies in fighting to save women from being put in the terrible position of having to decide between all the plans they have for their lives and the potential human within.

[Anonymous]

Yes, once the babies are born to their poor mamas and papas, the state of VA won't help to feed them, shelter them, or provide them with health care.

Yes, the babies are soooo grateful to be born into a state that only cares about them as fetuses, but not once they are out of utero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, once the babies are born to their poor mamas and papas, the state of VA won't help to feed them, shelter them, or provide them with health care.

Yes, the babies are soooo grateful to be born into a state that only cares about them as fetuses, but not once they are out of utero.

I am sure the babies would rather be dead. Yes, good point.

[Anonymous]

I wish the OP a trimsomy 18 pregnancy that goes to term. I am sure you can handle that grief with your moral superiority.

[Anonymous]

In our patriarchal society, we don't like to accept - we have all been conditioned NOT to accept - the reality that pregnant women ARE the arbiters of individual life and death, during pregnancy. We have the power to decide whether each and every person on the planet actually gets born, or not.

Men collectively have always hated and envied this - both our power to make a human and our power to destroy it. Note the history of extreme law and punishment governing women's sexuality and women's knowledge of medicine. (Know anything about medicine? Get burned at the stake). Religion has been a PR and brainwashing tool to get "good" girls to allow male control to continue. The idea of "penis envy" makes me laugh when history shows us that "pregnancy envy" has been much more powerful throughout human history.

Personally I couldn't live with an abortion on my conscience. But I do not want my daughters to grow up in a world where they are denied the hard fought right to control their own sexuality and reproduction.

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/starhawk/2008/09/abortion_and_the_goddess.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:here are the 2005 results. $ per pupil and NAEP scores. There is zero statistical correlation.

State 2005 per pupil spending 2005 NAEP score
AK $10830 980
AL 7066 947
AR 7504 983
AZ 6261 966
CA 8067 956
CO 7730 1,009
CT 11572 1,013
DC 12979 885
DE 10910 1,013
FL 7207 988
GA 8028 977
HI 8997 955
IA 7972 1,012
ID 6283 1,009
IL 8944 991
IN 8798 1,001
KS 7706 1,017
KY 7118 989
LA 7605 960
MA 11267 1,044
MD 9815 997
ME 10106 1,017
MI 9329 1,004
MN 8662 1,029
MO 7717 997
MS 6575 944
MT 8058 1,021
NC 7159 998
ND 8159 1,025
NE 8282 1,010
NH 9448 1,028
NJ 13800 1,020
NM 7580 945
NV 6722 960
NY 14119 1,006
OH 9260 1,015
OK 6613 979
OR 8115 1,000
PA 10552 1,012
RI 10371 982
SC 7555 989
SD 7197 1,020
TN 6729 976
TX 7267 1,000
US 8701 992
UT 5257 1,001
VA 8891 1,018
VT 11835 1,027
WA 7560 1,015
WI 9744 1,013
WV 9005 970
WY 10255 1,016

You don't seem to have a firm grasp of statistical analysis. Did you perform a correlation between $ and test score? (with the numbers given, it is not ZERO, although there is a non-significant positive correlation). What about adjustment for other factors, SES, etc?