daughters of the american revolution

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do you qualify to be a member?

Have an ancestor who fought in the Revolutionary War. I hope you chose your parents carefully.

Sounds like we should be ashamed our ancestors fought in the Revolution? They were actually the radical libs of their time.

I have not joined DAR yet but hope to. I have been to the HQ to do research. You don't need to be a member to visit the library.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you qualify to be a member?

Have an ancestor who fought in the Revolutionary War. I hope you chose your parents carefully.

Sounds like we should be ashamed our ancestors fought in the Revolution? They were actually the radical libs of their time.

I have not joined DAR yet but hope to. I have been to the HQ to do research. You don't need to be a member to visit the library.

Don't let it bother you. That PP sounds pretty aggressively bitter. Not sure why! It's just DAR, lady!

[Anonymous]

I'm a member (30 yrs old) and my husband is Asian. It'd going to be kinda cool to get my daughter inducted one day, so there will be this little Asian woman in with all the blue hairs

Teasing aside, it's a pretty nice organization. I am from the far NE and young, so I didn't know (and haven't heard about) allegations of racism in the past. Most people who I know in it like genealogy and American history, so OP, it's probably for you.

To join, you actually do need to prove quite a bit in terms of lineage. However, if any close relatives are in, you can apply through them (instead of through your ancestors, which requires more work).

[Anonymous]

My Paternal Grandmother was a member. She did do a lot of research from what I have heard to document her lineage (which is required.) I also understand that you need a current member to "sponsor" you whether or not you apply through a close relative or through your own ancestral research. Race/ cultural ethnicity makes no difference. My mother is from a Latin-American country, my father is not. So I am of hispanic descent. I qualify as a member of the DAR. I have a friend in her 90's who is a member of the DAR. She is not a person I would ever describe in any way to be racially/ culturally biased. I am always impressed with her forward thinking, very feministic views. She is quite amazing. It seems she gives me a rare glimpse into the minds of suffragist women (her mother's influence,) whenever I speak with her. She is pro- woman (all women) in a way I just don't see in women today. Most likely, becuase she can see how far we have truly come.

[Anonymous]

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Sounds like we should be ashamed our ancestors fought in the Revolution? They were actually the radical libs of their time.

Not really. Many of them were reactionary slave-owners. When the war ended 20,000 African-Americans chose to go live in Canada and other parts of the British Empire rather than return to the slavery and racism of the free colonies.

[Anonymous]

I have heard that the Colonial Dames find the Daughters of the American Revolution very parvenu. Just saying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I qualify for DAR too but would not want to join because they have a history of racism and antisemitism. Not sure if they have done anything to address these connotations or not.

any organization older than 50 years old probably has a few black marks. times change. its a very nice group of ladies that do good work and try to help.

Yeah, but they were still blocking admission to black women in the 80's. They were pretty late to the racial equality table.

I'd guess it be pretty hard for most black women to prove citizenship pre-revolution, correct? seriously, how would you? I'm sure many would qualify, but would probably be hard to get the records, etc.

in any event, its a nice old fashioned club for little old ladies to hold tea parties and erect historical markers. I wouldnt take it too seriously either way.

Seriously? Almost all AA's have some white person in their ancestry. Your grandfather could be white and descended from Patrick Henry. Or great grandmother, or great great grandmother. How unimaginable is that?

[Anonymous]

I'm the PP who said I wasn't eligible bc my father was adopted, even though his mother, my grandmother, was a member - thanks to PP 16:41 checking, but notwithstanding the positive phrasing of the DAR's answer to the Q of whether one can join if adopted, really that means in practice you cannot join if adopted, bc what adopted person knows her birth parents' "bloodlines"??? My point is that I think of my grandmother as my family, not my "family through adoption". I'm bowing off this thread bc I'm revisiting an old wound and that's not the point of OP's post - sorry, OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I qualify for DAR too but would not want to join because they have a history of racism and antisemitism. Not sure if they have done anything to address these connotations or not.

Where on earth are you getting that idea from?! Seriously, the group does not "have a history of racism and antisemitism." It's true that they ask for paperwork documenting your relationship to a family member who participated in the Revolutionary War, so that would exclude anyone who didn't have such a relative--but it's open to those who can produce that documentation.

[Anonymous]

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Where on earth are you getting that idea from?! Seriously, the group does not "have a history of racism and antisemitism." It's true that they ask for paperwork documenting your relationship to a family member who participated in the Revolutionary War, so that would exclude anyone who didn't have such a relative--but it's open to those who can produce that documentation.

Are you ignorant, or stupid? You might want to look into this a little more before posting again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I qualify for DAR too but would not want to join because they have a history of racism and antisemitism. Not sure if they have done anything to address these connotations or not.

Where on earth are you getting that idea from?! Seriously, the group does not "have a history of racism and antisemitism." It's true that they ask for paperwork documenting your relationship to a family member who participated in the Revolutionary War, so that would exclude anyone who didn't have such a relative--but it's open to those who can produce that documentation.

Marian Anderson/Eleanor Roosevelt? Anyone? Anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Anderson

Get a clue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I qualify for DAR too but would not want to join because they have a history of racism and antisemitism. Not sure if they have done anything to address these connotations or not.

Where on earth are you getting that idea from?! Seriously, the group does not "have a history of racism and antisemitism." It's true that they ask for paperwork documenting your relationship to a family member who participated in the Revolutionary War, so that would exclude anyone who didn't have such a relative--but it's open to those who can produce that documentation.

Marian Anderson/Eleanor Roosevelt? Anyone? Anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Anderson

Get a clue.

I think we disagree on what "a history" means. It's not some racist, anti-semitic group. I'm sure you'll be able to find examples of discrimination that most Americans now repudiate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I'd guess it be pretty hard for most black women to prove citizenship pre-revolution, correct? seriously, how would you? I'm sure many would qualify, but would probably be hard to get the records, etc.

in any event, its a nice old fashioned club for little old ladies to hold tea parties and erect historical markers. I wouldnt take it too seriously either way.

Seriously? Almost all AA's have some white person in their ancestry. Your grandfather could be white and descended from Patrick Henry. Or great grandmother, or great great grandmother. How unimaginable is that?

I think you're missing the first pp's point. Yes, a large number of blacks descended from American slaves have white ancestry as well, but it can be difficult to prove because of, well, slavery (unless the person has a relatively recent white ancestor").

Many black Ams. trace their ancestry but hit a wall when they try to go before 1865 or so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I qualify for DAR too but would not want to join because they have a history of racism and antisemitism. Not sure if they have done anything to address these connotations or not.

Where on earth are you getting that idea from?! Seriously, the group does not "have a history of racism and antisemitism." It's true that they ask for paperwork documenting your relationship to a family member who participated in the Revolutionary War, so that would exclude anyone who didn't have such a relative--but it's open to those who can produce that documentation.

Marian Anderson/Eleanor Roosevelt? Anyone? Anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Anderson

Get a clue.

I think we disagree on what "a history" means. It's not some racist, anti-semitic group. I'm sure you'll be able to find examples of discrimination that most Americans now repudiate.

This is an infamous incident in the history of the DAR, and most well read people know about it. Eleanor Roosevelt resigned her membership over this as an act of conscience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I qualify for DAR too but would not want to join because they have a history of racism and antisemitism. Not sure if they have done anything to address these connotations or not.

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oh, here we go......friggin answer to all evils,isn't it?