What is WashU trying to accomplish by adding EA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They already fill half their class via ED. What new goals are they trying to accomplish? To attract kids who otherwise save their ED/SCEA for HYP/T10 schools? Is their plan to reject all the EAs then try to convince applicants to switch to ED2?

UChicago also has ED + EA this but I don't know what they tend to do with their EA applicants. Is it a harder or easier admit than RD?

TLR. Wash U has a horrible yield rate of 49.47%. Any school with a yield rate above 30% is having problems. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/. So Wash U will now follow Chicago in creating E0, ED1, ED2, EA1, EA2, etc. - anything to drive down the yield percentage. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It helps them create an ED3 round (like UChicago before ED0)…

Not sure wtf you’re talking about.

Clearly, you’re not well-versed in admissions are you?

It’s when you defer an EA applicant, but call them / email them and tell them if they switch to ED2 by last-minute date they will be automatically admitted (and often with a financial aid package or even sometimes merit).
Mid-February.
And it works!

That doesn't happen.

This happens from a lot of different schools. Schools of differing selectivity.

They even talked about it on a podcast this week.

Talk to any former U Chicago admissions officer sitting at Ingenius prep. You guys need to get off of this site into the real world. It’s all about enrollment management and managing your yield.

I think it’s brilliant.

Brilliant? InGenius has been pushing UChicago for years. It was never about fit. It was all about how to play UChicago game. The whole thing is so ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

It’s not unpopular at our private but not a hot school either. Two to three kids attend each year. More popular than both Rice and Emory, which are what I consider its peer schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They already fill half their class via ED. What new goals are they trying to accomplish? To attract kids who otherwise save their ED/SCEA for HYP/T10 schools? Is their plan to reject all the EAs then try to convince applicants to switch to ED2?

UChicago also has ED + EA this but I don't know what they tend to do with their EA applicants. Is it a harder or easier admit than RD?

TLR. Wash U has a horrible yield rate of 49.47%. Any school with a yield rate above 30% is having problems. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/. So Wash U will now follow Chicago in creating E0, ED1, ED2, EA1, EA2, etc. - anything to drive down the yield percentage. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

Mind you, Emory has the lowest yield rate of the three, with a 37% yield rate for the Emory campus and a 17% yield rate for Oxford. And that's with ED1 & ED2.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

It's popular among Jewish families and premed kids. At our school, Vandy is more for hooked applicants, WashU is attainable for unhooked applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

It's popular among Jewish families and premed kids. At our school, Vandy is more for hooked applicants, WashU is attainable for unhooked applicants.

At our private, Vandy and WashU are for untalented and unhooked kids. But to each their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

It’s not unpopular at our private but not a hot school either. Two to three kids attend each year. More popular than both Rice and Emory, which are what I consider its peer schools.

WashU is a school that's supposed to have general appeal, but it doesn't. Rice is tiny, so it should, in theory, have fewer apps. Emory is ranked (a little) lower, but WashU still can't keep up. The location, the incongruent name, and the lack of a good business school hurt it in the end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

It's popular among Jewish families and premed kids. At our school, Vandy is more for hooked applicants, WashU is attainable for unhooked applicants.

At our private, Vandy and WashU are for untalented and unhooked kids. But to each their own.

Both have about 50% test optional students, so this checks out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They already fill half their class via ED. What new goals are they trying to accomplish? To attract kids who otherwise save their ED/SCEA for HYP/T10 schools? Is their plan to reject all the EAs then try to convince applicants to switch to ED2?

UChicago also has ED + EA this but I don't know what they tend to do with their EA applicants. Is it a harder or easier admit than RD?

TLR. Wash U has a horrible yield rate of 49.47%. Any school with a yield rate above 30% is having problems. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/. So Wash U will now follow Chicago in creating E0, ED1, ED2, EA1, EA2, etc. - anything to drive down the yield percentage. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

It's all about application number, yield rate, and acceptance rate. A very sad game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They already fill half their class via ED. What new goals are they trying to accomplish? To attract kids who otherwise save their ED/SCEA for HYP/T10 schools? Is their plan to reject all the EAs then try to convince applicants to switch to ED2?

UChicago also has ED + EA this but I don't know what they tend to do with their EA applicants. Is it a harder or easier admit than RD?

TLR. Wash U has a horrible yield rate of 49.47%. Any school with a yield rate above 30% is having problems. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/. So Wash U will now follow Chicago in creating E0, ED1, ED2, EA1, EA2, etc. - anything to drive down the yield percentage. https://www.ivywise.com/blog/college-yield-rates/

You’re interpreting the numbers incorrectly.

All other things being equal, a low admit rate is good, and a high yield rate is good.

If WashU has a 49% yield, that means that about half of the students it accepted decided to go there.

Wash. U. has a lower yield the Ivy League schools and Vanderbilt, a yield that’s comparable to the yield at Rice and Tufts, and a somewhat higher yield than Case Western and Emory.

[Anonymous]

I imagine with the issues facing higher education with caps on loans and declining international students, private schools that aren't Ivy or as highly desired (I never heard a kid say WashU is their first choice and I work with clients who apply) want to capture as many rich kids as possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

It’s not unpopular at our private but not a hot school either. Two to three kids attend each year. More popular than both Rice and Emory, which are what I consider its peer schools.

WashU is a school that's supposed to have general appeal, but it doesn't. Rice is tiny, so it should, in theory, have fewer apps. Emory is ranked (a little) lower, but WashU still can't keep up. The location, the incongruent name, and the lack of a good business school hurt it in the end.

I don’t know how many apps Rice has, but no more than one kid a year wants to go there from our school. Emory maybe one kid every other year. WashU a few kids every year. Just my experience with two kids at a highly regarded east coast private, none of my kids at any of the three.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vandy, Emory, Rice, and now Notre Dame have passed WashU in app numbers.
Vandy- 48k
Emory- 43K
Rice- 39k
ND- 36k
WashU- 32k

The only peer school with less apps is Georgetown which will move to the common app and likely pass WashU at minimum.

Is Washu declining in relative popularity to peers? Its was neck and neck with Vandy at my private.

It’s not unpopular at our private but not a hot school either. Two to three kids attend each year. More popular than both Rice and Emory, which are what I consider its peer schools.

WashU is a school that's supposed to have general appeal, but it doesn't. Rice is tiny, so it should, in theory, have fewer apps. Emory is ranked (a little) lower, but WashU still can't keep up. The location, the incongruent name, and the lack of a good business school hurt it in the end.

I don’t know how many apps Rice has, but no more than one kid a year wants to go there from our school. Emory maybe one kid every other year. WashU a few kids every year. Just my experience with two kids at a highly regarded east coast private, none of my kids at any of the three.

Thats just one school. Emory has a higher percentage of private school students than WashU.

[Anonymous]

I really wish Boston College would ad EA back into the mix. I don't understand why they eliminated it when they started offering ED. My DC likes the school, but not enough to ED. It would be nice to have that as an EA option should the other's fall through. What is the advantage to the school to eliminate EA?