DC Councilmember floats 3 percent tax increase on everyone

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I have no issue with taxes on pied-a-terre's (like over and above the homestead deduction that residents take) and higher taxes on grocery deliveries are fine. I doub't that closes the gap though.

So, the thing is, dc is already a terrible place to own a pied a terre because dc taxes the income of people who own pied a terres in SC even if the owner is domiciled in another state. NY doesn't do that. In DC, if you maintain a place of abode in DC and stay there for just ONE night a year, ALL of your earned and investment etc income for the year is taxed. Meaning you can get double taxed. NYC doesn't do this. Most places that have higher property taxes on nonresident owners dont also tax their income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

If you maintain a place of abode in DC and stay there even ONE night, DC taxes your income, even if you are domiciled somewhere else. So yea, likely, they are paying income taxes to DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the point is, we are going to have a lot of desperate, hungry people, which leads to crime and other issues, that if the local government doesn't help address, will become a bigger issue over time.

Oh brother. People are not doing this because there's desperate. They're doing it because they can get away with it. Enforce the law. It's not that complicated.

If they didn't need to steal, they wouldn't.

Needs and wants are different things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I'll take weird myths about the tax system for $1000, Alex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I have no issue with taxes on pied-a-terre's (like over and above the homestead deduction that residents take) and higher taxes on grocery deliveries are fine. I doub't that closes the gap though.

So, the thing is, dc is already a terrible place to own a pied a terre because dc taxes the income of people who own pied a terres in SC even if the owner is domiciled in another state. NY doesn't do that. In DC, if you maintain a place of abode in DC and stay there for just ONE night a year, ALL of your earned and investment etc income for the year is taxed. Meaning you can get double taxed. NYC doesn't do this. Most places that have higher property taxes on nonresident owners dont also tax their income.

No it doesn't. You have to claim DC residency to be liable for DC income taxes. The only taxes you pay otherwise are property taxes for the property, but without the Homestead Deduction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I'll take weird myths about the tax system for $1000, Alex.

I know at least 3 families doing exactly this. All sent their kids to DC privates and have their only work office downtown. All super liberal. But for tax purposes they “live” at their second home in a no income tax state. It does take a bit of work but not that hard to do. To us poors it looks like they are “summering” and spending long winter breaks at their vacation houses, but in reality they are satisfying minimum days in state to prove residency. At their income levels the DC tax savings are enormous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I'll take weird myths about the tax system for $1000, Alex.

I know at least 3 families doing exactly this. All sent their kids to DC privates and have their only work office downtown. All super liberal. But for tax purposes they “live” at their second home in a no income tax state. It does take a bit of work but not that hard to do. To us poors it looks like they are “summering” and spending long winter breaks at their vacation houses, but in reality they are satisfying minimum days in state to prove residency. At their income levels the DC tax savings are enormous.

Am rather skeptical that not one, not two but three separate families are sharing their private income and tax information, especially if they're rich. Also, do you think DC tax collectors are unaware that sometimes people try to do this? They wouldn't be very good at their jobs if they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I'll take weird myths about the tax system for $1000, Alex.

I know at least 3 families doing exactly this. All sent their kids to DC privates and have their only work office downtown. All super liberal. But for tax purposes they “live” at their second home in a no income tax state. It does take a bit of work but not that hard to do. To us poors it looks like they are “summering” and spending long winter breaks at their vacation houses, but in reality they are satisfying minimum days in state to prove residency. At their income levels the DC tax savings are enormous.

If they are in DC for 183 days or more per year, then they have a DC tax liability, so they are committing tax fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I'll take weird myths about the tax system for $1000, Alex.

I know at least 3 families doing exactly this. All sent their kids to DC privates and have their only work office downtown. All super liberal. But for tax purposes they “live” at their second home in a no income tax state. It does take a bit of work but not that hard to do. To us poors it looks like they are “summering” and spending long winter breaks at their vacation houses, but in reality they are satisfying minimum days in state to prove residency. At their income levels the DC tax savings are enormous.

Am rather skeptical that not one, not two but three separate families are sharing their private income and tax information, especially if they're rich. Also, do you think DC tax collectors are unaware that sometimes people try to do this? They wouldn't be very good at their jobs if they are.

Being good at your job has never been a requirement in the DC government. We have plenty of examples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m happy to pay our fair share!

Great - you can pay my share as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I'll take weird myths about the tax system for $1000, Alex.

I know at least 3 families doing exactly this. All sent their kids to DC privates and have their only work office downtown. All super liberal. But for tax purposes they “live” at their second home in a no income tax state. It does take a bit of work but not that hard to do. To us poors it looks like they are “summering” and spending long winter breaks at their vacation houses, but in reality they are satisfying minimum days in state to prove residency. At their income levels the DC tax savings are enormous.

The one office in DC that probably has some competence is the DC Office of Tax and Revenue. DC wants its money. These people will be found out. It is easy enough to determine school attendance, and they will pay a heavy price for this fraud.

BTW, you should turn them in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An income tax increase is insulting, obviously. The pied-à-terre tax is actually not a bad idea. You’d be shocked at how many super wealthy progressives, some very well known, with DC Statehood lawn signs are actually NH “residents” for income tax purposes. It’s kind of a thing in that orbit. Of course they love all the crazy social spending because it doesn’t cost them a dime.

I'll take weird myths about the tax system for $1000, Alex.

I know at least 3 families doing exactly this. All sent their kids to DC privates and have their only work office downtown. All super liberal. But for tax purposes they “live” at their second home in a no income tax state. It does take a bit of work but not that hard to do. To us poors it looks like they are “summering” and spending long winter breaks at their vacation houses, but in reality they are satisfying minimum days in state to prove residency. At their income levels the DC tax savings are enormous.

If they are in DC for 183 days or more per year, then they have a DC tax liability, so they are committing tax fraud.

Ever wonder why the DC private school calendar is way shorter than the DCPS calendar? Rich people, they not like us.

[Anonymous]

The private school calendar is not so short as to be able to bypass this.