CS majors

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Anonymous wrote:i don't understand why folks here say CS majors are dead? my kid got offers for CS summer internship as rising junior. kid also had one last year.

Because these people know nothing about cs. They think cs is all about coding

[Anonymous]

My 2024 grad us out earning her parents working at a FAANG co. There may need to be a pivot at some point but great experience and $$ now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 2024 grad us out earning her parents working at a FAANG co. There may need to be a pivot at some point but great experience and $$ now.

Unless they attend MIT CMU ivies Stanford UCB GT and a few other T15ish with robust computer engineering including AI degrees, CS alone is not going to yield that result in 2030. It has already slowed a lot with 2025 and now 2026 offers. Top schools are doing great; T25-40s and lower have had a significant drop in CS hiring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i don't understand why folks here say CS majors are dead? my kid got offers for CS summer internship as rising junior. kid also had one last year.

Because these people know nothing about cs. They think cs is all about coding

Dollars to donuts the internship is more about coding than automata theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there STEM students considering CS majors for this application year? If so, which schools do they consider? LAC? State Flagships? Ivy? Engineering school?

Duh! UMD!!!

All the high achieving kids in MD that are blocked by higher rated colleges for being the wrong race and gender (Asian American MC/UMC males)... are flocking to UMD. No wonder UMD ratings for CS continues to rise up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are there STEM students considering CS majors for this application year? If so, which schools do they consider? LAC? State Flagships? Ivy? Engineering school?

Duh! UMD!!!

All the high achieving kids in MD that are blocked by higher rated colleges for being the wrong race and gender (Asian American MC/UMC males)... are flocking to UMD. No wonder UMD ratings for CS continues to rise up.

Yep. Also think the school anticipated the cutbacks in hiring of CS students a couple of years ago. In fall 2024, class sizes were reduced from 1,450 (450 direct admit and 1,000 transfer) to 700 (600 direct admit and 100 transfer).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My 2024 grad us out earning her parents working at a FAANG co. There may need to be a pivot at some point but great experience and $$ now.

Unless they attend MIT CMU ivies Stanford UCB GT and a few other T15ish with robust computer engineering including AI degrees, CS alone is not going to yield that result in 2030. It has already slowed a lot with 2025 and now 2026 offers. Top schools are doing great; T25-40s and lower have had a significant drop in CS hiring.

That really doesn't make any sense. There are like 4MM jobs in software engineering and other very similar CS jobs.

Berkeley as example only graduates 800 CS majors each year. A school like MIT only 400. Let's call it the top 25 schools graduate 600 CS majors on average. That's 15,000 graduates. Nearly 50% of CS graduates from these top schools don't even work directly in CS...they go to work in consulting, banking, PE, hedge funds, etc.

There are 30x more kids hired in CS jobs each year than just the 7,500 from top schools who decide to work in CS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 2024 grad us out earning her parents working at a FAANG co. There may need to be a pivot at some point but great experience and $$ now.

Unless they attend MIT CMU ivies Stanford UCB GT and a few other T15ish with robust computer engineering including AI degrees, CS alone is not going to yield that result in 2030. It has already slowed a lot with 2025 and now 2026 offers. Top schools are doing great; T25-40s and lower have had a significant drop in CS hiring.

That really doesn't make any sense. There are like 4MM jobs in software engineering and other very similar CS jobs.

Berkeley as example only graduates 800 CS majors each year. A school like MIT only 400. Let's call it the top 25 schools graduate 600 CS majors on average. That's 15,000 graduates. Nearly 50% of CS graduates from these top schools don't even work directly in CS...they go to work in consulting, banking, PE, hedge funds, etc.

There are 30x more kids hired in CS jobs each year than just the 7,500 from top schools who decide to work in CS.

Every single major corporations have need for SWE and IT workers. Not everything is yet offshored or taken over by AI. The AI fears are overblown.

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/private-markets/26/04/51874192/employment-apocalypse-fears-are-overblown-scale-ai-ceo-says

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CS major is dead unless you attend a school like MIT. People refuse to believe it and keep making disastrous decisions.

Told my kid, CS major at UMD, to turn down his internship offer this summer and begin coursework in nursing.

Seriously?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Best bet is double major in CS and something else, or get an engineering degree and minor in CS.
Best schools for CS related interests with the job market now and for the forseeable future: MIT, Stanford, CMU, ivies with real engineering , JHU, Rice, Northwestern, UCB, GT.

This 1000%! You are much more marketable with an engineering degree (or something else) and minoring in CS, or heck just taking a few courses. My kid majored in Chem Engineering, uses CS in their research (machine learning/AI focused) and will be getting MS in Chem Eng and AI. Very marketable. The key to CS is to have other knowledge base that you are applying with the CS (hence Engineering). Those jobs wont disappear

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CS major is dead unless you attend a school like MIT. People refuse to believe it and keep making disastrous decisions.

Told my kid, CS major at UMD, to turn down his internship offer this summer and begin coursework in nursing.

Seriously?

No. Im kidding

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best bet is double major in CS and something else, or get an engineering degree and minor in CS.
Best schools for CS related interests with the job market now and for the forseeable future: MIT, Stanford, CMU, ivies with real engineering , JHU, Rice, Northwestern, UCB, GT.

What happened to the kids who learn how to code and love robotics and 3D design? What majors do they choose?

They found the right major in the first place: engineering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Best bet is double major in CS and something else, or get an engineering degree and minor in CS.
Best schools for CS related interests with the job market now and for the forseeable future: MIT, Stanford, CMU, ivies with real engineering , JHU, Rice, Northwestern, UCB, GT.

This 1000%! You are much more marketable with an engineering degree (or something else) and minoring in CS, or heck just taking a few courses. My kid majored in Chem Engineering, uses CS in their research (machine learning/AI focused) and will be getting MS in Chem Eng and AI. Very marketable. The key to CS is to have other knowledge base that you are applying with the CS (hence Engineering). Those jobs wont disappear

Interesting. My kid is a Freshman Chem E major. Never thought about the minor in CS. CS was one of his favorite classes this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best bet is double major in CS and something else, or get an engineering degree and minor in CS.
Best schools for CS related interests with the job market now and for the forseeable future: MIT, Stanford, CMU, ivies with real engineering , JHU, Rice, Northwestern, UCB, GT.

This 1000%! You are much more marketable with an engineering degree (or something else) and minoring in CS, or heck just taking a few courses. My kid majored in Chem Engineering, uses CS in their research (machine learning/AI focused) and will be getting MS in Chem Eng and AI. Very marketable. The key to CS is to have other knowledge base that you are applying with the CS (hence Engineering). Those jobs wont disappear

Interesting. My kid is a Freshman Chem E major. Never thought about the minor in CS. CS was one of his favorite classes this year.

Mine didn't minor in CS....just took 3-4 courses, decided not to minor but did research using ML/AI for 2+ years and will be at CMU for CHE/AI program. Smart people don't need the actual CSdegree, they just use CS/AI as a tool with their other set of knowledge and right now having that other knowledge is very beneficial.

ChemE in general is all about knowledge in a variety of areas, that can make you more beneficial than a BME or MechE, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Best bet is double major in CS and something else, or get an engineering degree and minor in CS.
Best schools for CS related interests with the job market now and for the forseeable future: MIT, Stanford, CMU, ivies with real engineering , JHU, Rice, Northwestern, UCB, GT.

This 1000%! You are much more marketable with an engineering degree (or something else) and minoring in CS, or heck just taking a few courses. My kid majored in Chem Engineering, uses CS in their research (machine learning/AI focused) and will be getting MS in Chem Eng and AI. Very marketable. The key to CS is to have other knowledge base that you are applying with the CS (hence Engineering). Those jobs wont disappear

Interesting. My kid is a Freshman Chem E major. Never thought about the minor in CS. CS was one of his favorite classes this year.

Mine didn't minor in CS....just took 3-4 courses, decided not to minor but did research using ML/AI for 2+ years and will be at CMU for CHE/AI program. Smart people don't need the actual CSdegree, they just use CS/AI as a tool with their other set of knowledge and right now having that other knowledge is very beneficial.

ChemE in general is all about knowledge in a variety of areas, that can make you more beneficial than a BME or MechE, etc.

You're quite the genius aren't you? Answer for everything.