What happens after 5 unexcused absences?

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^I find all the ‘religious’ holidays to be the problem, not the teacher workdays .

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

It's called being a professional.

I don't get random days where work stops so I can "catchup" either. Nights and weekends are the norm in my profession too. I don't whine about it because I knew thats what it was like when I went into it. Somehow back north teachers there can survive without all this extra time as well.
BOO HOO

Work isn’t stopping, dumbass. Teachers have work to do outside of being in front of students. Do you meet with clients all day everyday and never collaborate with colleagues? Do you never have team meetings? You’re no martyr.

They had 11 “work days”during this 180 day school year. Not even touching early release for elementary school. That any “teacher“ dares to come here and complain about their conditions is astounding, crying about getting more than 5% of your time just to catch up?

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

It's called being a professional.

I don't get random days where work stops so I can "catchup" either. Nights and weekends are the norm in my profession too. I don't whine about it because I knew thats what it was like when I went into it. Somehow back north teachers there can survive without all this extra time as well.
BOO HOO

Work isn’t stopping, dumbass. Teachers have work to do outside of being in front of students. Do you meet with clients all day everyday and never collaborate with colleagues? Do you never have team meetings? You’re no martyr.

They had 11 “work days”during this 180 day school year. Not even touching early release for elementary school. That any “teacher“ dares to come here and complain about their conditions is astounding, crying about getting more than 5% of your time just to catch up?

As a teacher we barely spend any of those days planning or catching up. 90% of the day is spent on the dumbest professional development, where we spend 3 hours on learning target, equity, data driven instruction, racism, new learning models that are ineffective inclusive models, etc. where the admin or gatehouse throws out tons of buzzwords and gives you examples that would never relate to your classroom. I take half of those days because they are an utter waste of time and do what I need to do for school at home. I am able to because I almost never miss a day of actual school.

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

It's called being a professional.

I don't get random days where work stops so I can "catchup" either. Nights and weekends are the norm in my profession too. I don't whine about it because I knew thats what it was like when I went into it. Somehow back north teachers there can survive without all this extra time as well.
BOO HOO

Work isn’t stopping, dumbass. Teachers have work to do outside of being in front of students. Do you meet with clients all day everyday and never collaborate with colleagues? Do you never have team meetings? You’re no martyr.

They had 11 “work days”during this 180 day school year. Not even touching early release for elementary school. That any “teacher“ dares to come here and complain about their conditions is astounding, crying about getting more than 5% of your time just to catch up?

As a teacher we barely spend any of those days planning or catching up. 90% of the day is spent on the dumbest professional development, where we spend 3 hours on learning target, equity, data driven instruction, racism, new learning models that are ineffective inclusive models, etc. where the admin or gatehouse throws out tons of buzzwords and gives you examples that would never relate to your classroom. I take half of those days because they are an utter waste of time and do what I need to do for school at home. I am able to because I almost never miss a day of actual school.

Great. Waste your time in early August and late June so children and families— the people this public service is meant to serve— can have a functional calendar.