What happens after 5 unexcused absences?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Not one of those days were high absence days.

They affect less than 1% and 2% of the student and staff population for those religious holidays. And US families do not celebrate holidays like Chinese New year or Waster Monday to the level which requires people to miss school.

Those teachers workdays used to occur before tge start of school, not 2 days after a 3 day weekend or 2 weeks before the end of the school year.

No, teacher workdays have always been spread out throughout the school year.

[Anonymous]

I'm in Arlington but we just get a strongly worded letter. I think there's one at 5 days and another one at 10. They have to send them out, but I've never heard of anyone having to follow up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Not one of those days were high absence days.

They affect less than 1% and 2% of the student and staff population for those religious holidays. And US families do not celebrate holidays like Chinese New year or Waster Monday to the level which requires people to miss school.

Those teachers workdays used to occur before tge start of school, not 2 days after a 3 day weekend or 2 weeks before the end of the school year.

No, teacher workdays have always been spread out throughout the school year.

You guys are both right and wrong. Contract days have generally been bookended at the start and end of the school year with a few days sprinkled throughout the year. This year more contract days were placed between the first and last day of school than in a typical year. On top of that, the two special elections generated two extra contract days.

In 2024-25 “pink days” (TW/SP/SD) occurred:
Before school year - 5
During school year - 6
After school year -4

In 25-26 it was:
Before school year - 5
During school year - 11 (2 extra due to elections)
After school year - 1

In 26-27 it will be:
Before school year - 6
During school year - 7
After school year - 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

[Anonymous]

I thought unexcused absences can be used in custody battles. If you are the custodial parent and the child has a lot of unexcused absences -- that doesn't look great in court.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

FCCPS started the same day (August 18) and ends June 5 so it is possible. June 5 is 1.6 weeks earlier not 2 full weeks but still ends in timely fashion for an approximate mid-August start.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

It's called being a professional.

I don't get random days where work stops so I can "catchup" either. Nights and weekends are the norm in my profession too. I don't whine about it because I knew thats what it was like when I went into it. Somehow back north teachers there can survive without all this extra time as well.
BOO HOO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

No, I don’t see the problem. If you will somehow be allowed to remain employed while not doing basics of your job that’s between you and your employer. Expect complaints and the slow, slow disciplinary process but don’t try to keep kids from spending time with their families since you can’t or don’t manage your time well.

[Anonymous]

They send an email

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

I am a teacher. My mom was a teacher. My grandma was a teacher. And 2 of my sisters were teachers.

It is absolutely ridiculous that FCPS is putting all these teacher workdays during the school year to provide cover for a bunch of religious holidays that affect fewer than 1-2% of FCPS population at the most inconvenient and ridiculous times in the year, such as the Tuesday after Memorial Day weekend.

They aren't giving you those days to help with your workflow. If that was the purpose those days would be scheduled earlier in the year at midterms and the end of the quarter to actually assist teachers with grade completion and workload, NOT days like right after memorial/Labor day or the weeks leading up to and following an extended spring break. They are randomly scheduling those dsys at the worst possible times for religious reasons and Chinese new year.

If this was about training teachers, these days would occur in August before school started.

If it was about your mental health and quality of life, they would cut these pointless religious holidays masked as teachers workdays, and end school 2 weeks earlier so you could have a proper summer vacation of at least 10 weeks.

If it was about making your job easier, they would have the kids in school 5 days a week instead of all these chopped up 3 and 4 day weeks, so you wouldn't have to spend every other week teaching elementary kids how to behave like proper students and so your high school students stopped cutting class all the time, causing you to have to constantly accept late work and retakes.

None of these days off are designed to benefit teachers or make your job easier.

In fact, these constant random pointless days off and virtually no 5 day weeks is making your job harder and making your students more feral and stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

Cry me a river!

It is the teacher work days + ALL the other days off that are the issue.

Get over yourself! You have more time than anyone to get stuff done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in third grade and has good grades. Just got a message she had 5 unexcused absences. She has 2 sick days too.

I was going to miss 2-3 days for Memorial Day. Will something happen if she misses more school?

FCPS has already made Memorial Day a 5 day weekend, are you just taking off the entire week?

If FCPS hadn't given off for:

Lunar New Year (not a US holiday)

Day of the Dead/All Saints Day (not a US holiday and the Catholics have 10 Mass times in a 15 minute radius everywhere, at least half of which are before/after school)

Orthodox Epiphany & Orthodox Easter (>2% of FCPS)

Easter Monday (unnecessary, not a celebration day in NoVa)

Nowruz (>1% of FCPS)

and the random teacher workday the Tuesday after Memorial Day (wtf fcps)

then we would have gotten out 2 full weeks earlier on June 5th, and still had a TON of days off during the year, including off for all the major religious holidays of the 4 faiths representing more than 5% of FCPS population.

The teacher work days/school plan days do not count against the 180 for students but are required. Some of the holidays you mentioned were those contract days. School would not get out June 5. They used to just fall in between quarters and semesters but were moved to those dates since they were high sub/student absence days.

Required by whom?

The teacher contract which is around 190 days.

It is not required that those days take place inside the school year, those 10 days can be accomplished in August and June and be just as compliant with the contract. So no, it is not “required”.

I’m a DP and a teacher. I absolutely hate how teacher workdays have been treated with such disdain on this thread. Its sickening.

I give up ALL of my evenings and MOST of my weekends to this job. The fact the poster above thinks I deserve no paid hours between August and June to get my work done is deeply insulting.

If compliance to the contract is all that matters, then should I also be compliant? Should I work just my contract hours? No grading will get done and my plans will be minimalistic. I’ll write no letters of recommendation. See the problem? You seem to expect me to give all for you, PP, with no allowance for what this job actually entails.

It's called being a professional.

I don't get random days where work stops so I can "catchup" either. Nights and weekends are the norm in my profession too. I don't whine about it because I knew thats what it was like when I went into it. Somehow back north teachers there can survive without all this extra time as well.
BOO HOO

Work isn’t stopping, dumbass. Teachers have work to do outside of being in front of students. Do you meet with clients all day everyday and never collaborate with colleagues? Do you never have team meetings? You’re no martyr.