Black Student Union Accuses Pomona Administration of Enabling Racist Environment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:so some kids left a bunch of trash in a room that black kids use

the black kids took it to mean it was done intentionally so they had to clean it up I guess like slaves

school gets put on blast nationwide

Um…no. The FLI lounge is a space for first gen low income people, not just black students.

Then they can’t cry racism at all because everyone was included equally in the perceived slight

You’re just mixing up two events and acting as if they’re one to deny antiblack racism. It’s weird to do so, but usual for a racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the incidents sound awful; others farcical.

“alleged vandalism in the First-Generation and Low-Income (FLI) student lounge by a group of students. Pomona administrators communicated to the Independent and Pomona’s student government that the FLI lounge incident was a misunderstanding; students left trash behind in the room, which was interpreted by FLI leadership as a targeted incident.”

So FLI students using the lounge left trash behind and FLI leadership interpreted it as a racist attack?

Members of an athletic team trashed the lounge and FLI interpreted it as a bias incident against the fli group.

Damn it, you’re interrupting the hard work of bolstering systemic racism and gaslighting POC with inconvenient facts. Next you will be pointing out that PPs are cherry-picking an outlier from a list that includes overt racist speech. How gauche.

[Anonymous]

If everyone is special then no one is special.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is hard. There is a weird sense that while antisemitism is a zero tolerance stance, racist harassment and treatment against black people is just tolerated and excused. If anything we blame black people for being too sensitive. No one would say that to a Jewish person

That’s very true. So many people experience racism - black Americans, Indians! Asians. Latinos. Etc. - all the tropes and jokes and “you smell” comments. I hear anti Indian and anti black comments all the time because I am not Indian or black and so people think it’s safe to say these things to me. And yet Jewish Americans - white as day, and let’s admit it- usually well educated, affluent, and able to successfully navigate tough social, academic and professional hierarchies, are acting like THEY are the biggest victims. It’s completely tone deaf. To be sure, anti semitism is rising. It’s almost exclusively on the far right. Yet Jewish maga is trying to pin it on the left, missing entirely the real story. I’ll get off my soap box. The issue is complex and nuanced.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is hard. There is a weird sense that while antisemitism is a zero tolerance stance, racist harassment and treatment against black people is just tolerated and excused. If anything we blame black people for being too sensitive. No one would say that to a Jewish person

That’s very true. So many people experience racism - black Americans, Indians! Asians. Latinos. Etc. - all the tropes and jokes and “you smell” comments. I hear anti Indian and anti black comments all the time because I am not Indian or black and so people think it’s safe to say these things to me. And yet Jewish Americans - white as day, and let’s admit it- usually well educated, affluent, and able to successfully navigate tough social, academic and professional hierarchies, are acting like THEY are the biggest victims. It’s completely tone deaf. To be sure, anti semitism is rising. It’s almost exclusively on the far right. Yet Jewish maga is trying to pin it on the left, missing entirely the real story. I’ll get off my soap box. The issue is complex and nuanced.

Hmm. Racism is in the eye of the beholder. And some of the most racist attitudes are from blacks towards other racial groups. The anti Asian violence are almost entirely from blacks. And it's the liberal college campuses that had the antisemitism crisis, mainly from "brown" people. Nothing comparable on the MAGA side as they dont have college campuses.

Such is the ironies of modern life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some of the incidents sound awful; others farcical.

“alleged vandalism in the First-Generation and Low-Income (FLI) student lounge by a group of students. Pomona administrators communicated to the Independent and Pomona’s student government that the FLI lounge incident was a misunderstanding; students left trash behind in the room, which was interpreted by FLI leadership as a targeted incident.”

So FLI students using the lounge left trash behind and FLI leadership interpreted it as a racist attack?

Members of an athletic team trashed the lounge and FLI interpreted it as a bias incident against the fli group.

Misbehavior by athletic teams at the 5Cs (here it was Pomona-Pitzer team, earlier it was the CMC-Mudd swim/diving team) is a scourge. There really is a behavior and academic divide between the academic students at 5Cs and the athletic recruits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is hard. There is a weird sense that while antisemitism is a zero tolerance stance, racist harassment and treatment against black people is just tolerated and excused. If anything we blame black people for being too sensitive. No one would say that to a Jewish person

That’s very true. So many people experience racism - black Americans, Indians! Asians. Latinos. Etc. - all the tropes and jokes and “you smell” comments. I hear anti Indian and anti black comments all the time because I am not Indian or black and so people think it’s safe to say these things to me. And yet Jewish Americans - white as day, and let’s admit it- usually well educated, affluent, and able to successfully navigate tough social, academic and professional hierarchies, are acting like THEY are the biggest victims. It’s completely tone deaf. To be sure, anti semitism is rising. It’s almost exclusively on the far right. Yet Jewish maga is trying to pin it on the left, missing entirely the real story. I’ll get off my soap box. The issue is complex and nuanced.

Yes, your soapbox is tiresome, not to mention completely ridiculous. Especially the bolded. The biggest (by far) propagation of antisemitism today comes from the far-LEFT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure but supposedly the cis-gendered straight, white affinity lounge also encountered some hostility, so it isn't confined to other affinity lounges.

[Anonymous]

It’s just a sign that actual discrimination has disappeared, & the victimhood claims are running out of steam.

[Anonymous]

Let me get this straight: an openly race-centric, racial bias-promoting group is complaining that somebody else is racist?

[Anonymous]

While Pomona has a reputation for being open and inclusive, the faculty are overwhelmingly white while half of the student body are still white and Asian. So institutional racism is something that is acknowledged but they are aware of it and have plans to overcome it. Don't make it out to be a non-existent problem.

At the same time the way that school handled the Palestinian issue has left a lot of bad feelings. It seems some groups got special protections while others were singled out and punished so if you are a Black student it is not unfair to make sure that you aren't being singled out to the benefit of the privileged heteronormative cisgendered non-POC cohort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me get this straight: an openly race-centric, racial bias-promoting group is complaining that somebody else is racist?

Are you one of those people that believe talking about race at all is racism? It’s a great cop out to continue being racist but not allow anyone else to discuss it. The black student union is just an organization of people who are black hanging out. If that’s racism, then it’s lost its meaning in your mind