NCAA considering eligibility rule that addresses rampant redshirting

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

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19 is nothing. My friends in the south have been telling me about the 21 year old freshmen in the football programs. A normal kid doesn’t stand a chance against grown men.

[Anonymous]

None of these rule changes will help a young HS graduate who maybe was D1 10 years ago.

The transfer portal is alive and well and coaches are fine recruiting athletes from other colleges who will only stick around for a season or two.

No college coach is "taking a chance" on a HS recruit who they project may show a bunch of improvement...if anything because if they do, they know that kid may transfer to a better team.

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Anonymous wrote:19 is nothing. My friends in the south have been telling me about the 21 year old freshmen in the football programs. A normal kid doesn’t stand a chance against grown men.

Newsflash - once they’re college-aged, they’re ALL grown men…

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

Math must be hard for you. They're 19 and turning 20 their senior year. That's the whole reason the NCAA wants to implement the rule.

Let me guess, your kid is a reclass and this hurts you?

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

Math must be hard for you. They're 19 and turning 20 their senior year. That's the whole reason the NCAA wants to implement the rule.

Let me guess, your kid is a reclass and this hurts you?

Summer birthday kid ACTUAL example:

T = 0 (School on time, no reclass)
Graduate at 17

T = 1
Start late
Graduate at 18

T = 2
Middle school reclass
Graduate at 19

T = 3
???
Be 20 during fall of senior year

You skipped an entire year somewhere. Or are you claiming that kids are re-classing two full grade levels in middle school? Or you think parents are starting kids TWO YEARS late? And you claim to know TONS of people who do this? Yeah, I call bull$hit.

Either way:

The NCAA is considering this rule because of 26 year olds, not 20 year olds.

[Anonymous]

This rule proposal seems intended to address the track and field issue with recruiting 28-year old professional runners out of east Africa. Not anything for football or soccer.

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

Math must be hard for you. They're 19 and turning 20 their senior year. That's the whole reason the NCAA wants to implement the rule.

Let me guess, your kid is a reclass and this hurts you?

Summer birthday kid ACTUAL example:

T = 0 (School on time, no reclass)
Graduate at 17

T = 1
Start late
Graduate at 18

T = 2
Middle school reclass
Graduate at 19

T = 3
???
Be 20 during fall of senior year

You skipped an entire year somewhere. Or are you claiming that kids are re-classing two full grade levels in middle school? Or you think parents are starting kids TWO YEARS late? And you claim to know TONS of people who do this? Yeah, I call bull$hit.

Either way:

The NCAA is considering this rule because of 26 year olds, not 20 year olds.

Ah. I see where I misread you. You were referring to college football season initially, but then you switched to talking about high school football season.

I’d like to know what school district you’re in where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors, though.

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

Math must be hard for you. They're 19 and turning 20 their senior year. That's the whole reason the NCAA wants to implement the rule.

Let me guess, your kid is a reclass and this hurts you?

Summer birthday kid ACTUAL example:

T = 0 (School on time, no reclass)
Graduate at 17

T = 1
Start late
Graduate at 18

T = 2
Middle school reclass
Graduate at 19

T = 3
???
Be 20 during fall of senior year

You skipped an entire year somewhere. Or are you claiming that kids are re-classing two full grade levels in middle school? Or you think parents are starting kids TWO YEARS late? And you claim to know TONS of people who do this? Yeah, I call bull$hit.

Either way:

The NCAA is considering this rule because of 26 year olds, not 20 year olds.

Ah. I see where I misread you. You were referring to college football season initially, but then you switched to talking about high school football season.

I’d like to know what school district you’re in where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors, though.

If you're 19 in the fall of your senior year then what age are you turning?

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The ncaa could care less what you do with kid in preschool or K.
This is about football and basketball players getting extra year via redshirts, medical redshirts, and other “hardship” exemptions so they can play college sports for 5-7 years. In doing so, they limit the opportunities for high school kids to get recruited and find roster spots.
Football and basketball programs are the ONLY programs not operating way in the red every year. They carry all of the other sports.
I’ll repeat, this proposed rule change is because of two sports at the college level, not what Johnny and missy do when they are 5-6 years old.

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

Math must be hard for you. They're 19 and turning 20 their senior year. That's the whole reason the NCAA wants to implement the rule.

Let me guess, your kid is a reclass and this hurts you?

Summer birthday kid ACTUAL example:

T = 0 (School on time, no reclass)
Graduate at 17

T = 1
Start late
Graduate at 18

T = 2
Middle school reclass
Graduate at 19

T = 3
???
Be 20 during fall of senior year

You skipped an entire year somewhere. Or are you claiming that kids are re-classing two full grade levels in middle school? Or you think parents are starting kids TWO YEARS late? And you claim to know TONS of people who do this? Yeah, I call bull$hit.

Either way:

The NCAA is considering this rule because of 26 year olds, not 20 year olds.

Ah. I see where I misread you. You were referring to college football season initially, but then you switched to talking about high school football season.

I’d like to know what school district you’re in where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors, though.

If you're 19 in the fall of your senior year then what age are you turning?

I just corrected myself, nimrod. Maybe work on your communication skills?

I’d still like to know where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors. Go ahead and answer that, or kindly STFU and stop lying about all these 19-20 year old high school kids.

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Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

Math must be hard for you. They're 19 and turning 20 their senior year. That's the whole reason the NCAA wants to implement the rule.

Let me guess, your kid is a reclass and this hurts you?

Summer birthday kid ACTUAL example:

T = 0 (School on time, no reclass)
Graduate at 17

T = 1
Start late
Graduate at 18

T = 2
Middle school reclass
Graduate at 19

T = 3
???
Be 20 during fall of senior year

You skipped an entire year somewhere. Or are you claiming that kids are re-classing two full grade levels in middle school? Or you think parents are starting kids TWO YEARS late? And you claim to know TONS of people who do this? Yeah, I call bull$hit.

Either way:

The NCAA is considering this rule because of 26 year olds, not 20 year olds.

Ah. I see where I misread you. You were referring to college football season initially, but then you switched to talking about high school football season.

I’d like to know what school district you’re in where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors, though.

If you're 19 in the fall of your senior year then what age are you turning?

I just corrected myself, nimrod. Maybe work on your communication skills?

I’d still like to know where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors. Go ahead and answer that, or kindly STFU and stop lying about all these 19-20 year old high school kids.

Nimrod ? Sick burn baldie

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Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/ncaa-proposing-major-changes-to-eligibility-rules-including-age-limits-121509806.html

Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

I’m not following why you think there are shenanigans involved with kids turning 18 their senior year. The vast majority of kids turn 18 their senior year.

They're referring to kids who turn 18 in the second half of the school year or have a summer bday.

For example, be born in June and start school late so you turn 18 before your senior year instead of graduating at 17. Then do a middle school reclass and you're a grown 19 year old by the time football season starts. The NCAA ruling changing would discourage this scenarios because the individual would be using one year of college eligibility.

I know TONS of athletes who did this. They had a bday in the second half of the school year so they're parents started them late and they reclassed. So they were essentially 18 at the end of their sophmore year and turned 19 before their senior football season. They're basically 20 when they finish HS.

The example you gave, they’re 19. Then you end by claiming they’re 20.

Either way, it doesn’t matter. If your 18 year old college freshman can’t hang with a 19 year old college freshman, he definitely can’t with the 22 year old college seniors he’ll be competing against.

Is there ever a point where you STOP complaining about age differences? After puberty, it’s pretty ridiculous.

Math must be hard for you. They're 19 and turning 20 their senior year. That's the whole reason the NCAA wants to implement the rule.

Let me guess, your kid is a reclass and this hurts you?

Summer birthday kid ACTUAL example:

T = 0 (School on time, no reclass)
Graduate at 17

T = 1
Start late
Graduate at 18

T = 2
Middle school reclass
Graduate at 19

T = 3
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Be 20 during fall of senior year

You skipped an entire year somewhere. Or are you claiming that kids are re-classing two full grade levels in middle school? Or you think parents are starting kids TWO YEARS late? And you claim to know TONS of people who do this? Yeah, I call bull$hit.

Either way:

The NCAA is considering this rule because of 26 year olds, not 20 year olds.

Ah. I see where I misread you. You were referring to college football season initially, but then you switched to talking about high school football season.

I’d like to know what school district you’re in where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors, though.

If you're 19 in the fall of your senior year then what age are you turning?

I just corrected myself, nimrod. Maybe work on your communication skills?

I’d still like to know where you know tons of 19 year old rising seniors. Go ahead and answer that, or kindly STFU and stop lying about all these 19-20 year old high school kids.

Nimrod ? Sick burn baldie

Thanks for the confirmation that you don’t actually know a single 20 year old senior!