NCAA considering eligibility rule that addresses rampant redshirting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/ncaa-proposing-major-changes-to-eligibility-rules-including-age-limits-121509806.html

Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reclassing should never be allowed.

I went to school with so many athletes who turned 20 when they graduated. It's insanity

20?? I finished my junior year of college at age 20. Are people really holding kids back multiple years?

Have a late bday so do an initial holdback before kindergarten so you aren't the youngest on your grade. You'll be 18 your senior year. Then do a reclass when in middle school and you then have 20 year hs seniors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/ncaa-proposing-major-changes-to-eligibility-rules-including-age-limits-121509806.html

Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

[Anonymous]

Good. All college sports should be limited to 5 full years after high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t possibly care less. It’s all just basically pro sports now anyway.

I am a casual college sports watcher, the kind that checks in for March Madness but checks out otherwise.

It is sooo boring now that the students are hopping between schools each year chasing money.

With the exception of the service academies and perhaps schools like Notre Dame where the rosters are more stable because the players want to be at that school for bigger reasons than sports, it's no longer college sports rooting for your college teams. Its like some pro league where it is about something other than the school or the team.

Its a huge negative to have this new pay and portal structure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t possibly care less. It’s all just basically pro sports now anyway.

Would you be okay with your 13 or 14 year old daughter being in school with 19 and 20 year old boys?

Horrible analogy

The secondary schools have 11 and 12 year olds at school with these 20 year old men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/ncaa-proposing-major-changes-to-eligibility-rules-including-age-limits-121509806.html

Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/ncaa-proposing-major-changes-to-eligibility-rules-including-age-limits-121509806.html

Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

[Anonymous]

This that really doesn't seem to be impacting kids who are redshirted within normal bounds. If anything, it seems targeted at elite gymnasts who often take a year out of college to train and compete in the Olympics before returning to NCAA competition.

[Anonymous]

Starting the timer at 19 means this has no impact on redshirted kids.

It seems more geared to address kids who are redshirted (or have early-for-the-year birthdays already) AND get reclassed in middle school. This rule would strongly disfavor reclassing unless your kid was young for the grade, because it would effectively steal a year of college eligibility (which could also heavily impact recruiting since a strong program will be less likely to recruit an athlete with more limited eligibility).

It also seems to impact high level athletes who may delay college for other training and competition opportunities. But this is a very small percent of all college athletes and may not matter as much to them -- if you are an Olympic gymnast, you might be a bit sad to lose a year or two of NCAA eligibility, but not enough to skip the Olympics and go straight to college.

[Anonymous]

This is to address niche issues such as Solomon Tuliaupupu and Cam McCormick who ended up playing (or in Tuliapupu's case will be playing) at 26 with 9 years of eligibility due to serious injury issues.

Also, Men's hockey where the majority of freshman are 20-21 because they played juniors for 1-3 years before college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/article/ncaa-proposing-major-changes-to-eligibility-rules-including-age-limits-121509806.html

Summary - NCAA is considering a rule that limits eligibility to 5 full years after high school graduation or 19th bday, whichever comes first. The current rule gives a 5 year clock without regard to age or year of high school graduation.

There are some exceptions for circumstances like pregnancy or military service.

I don't understand how this helps. My kid started kindergarten on time and is going to graduate from high school at 17 and start college at 17. Redshirted kids will be 19 and starting college. How does this rule help?

The clock will start at 19 or hs graduation, whichever comes first.

It removes the incentive to redshirt your kid because it will cause HS to eat into his college eligibility

If you are redshirted, you start college at 19. This doesn't change anything for those who are redshirted.

It does.

It's the day you turn 19. So if you play football and have a bday from Jun to Dec and we're a holdback then you would turn 19 your senior year. This new rule would effectively take up one year of eligibility if you did this.

Only if the kid is held back 2 years. If a kid turns five in July and is redshirted then they start kindergarten at 6 and graduate from high school at 18. They don't turn 19 until after high school graduation.

You're not following what is happening.

People are starting these kids late in elementary by doing a year of pre-K. So they'll turn 18 their senior year with no holdback. Then they do a reclass and are 19 for their senior season. That is what the NCAA rule is trying to address.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Starting the timer at 19 means this has no impact on redshirted kids.

It seems more geared to address kids who are redshirted (or have early-for-the-year birthdays already) AND get reclassed in middle school. This rule would strongly disfavor reclassing unless your kid was young for the grade, because it would effectively steal a year of college eligibility (which could also heavily impact recruiting since a strong program will be less likely to recruit an athlete with more limited eligibility).

It also seems to impact high level athletes who may delay college for other training and competition opportunities. But this is a very small percent of all college athletes and may not matter as much to them -- if you are an Olympic gymnast, you might be a bit sad to lose a year or two of NCAA eligibility, but not enough to skip the Olympics and go straight to college.

+1

This is trying to end the reclassing game. Normal kids graduate when they are 17/18 years old. The hold back for sports are 19 when they graduate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am all for it. The “reclassing” madness is out of hand.

+1

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Starting the timer at 19 means this has no impact on redshirted kids.

It seems more geared to address kids who are redshirted (or have early-for-the-year birthdays already) AND get reclassed in middle school. This rule would strongly disfavor reclassing unless your kid was young for the grade, because it would effectively steal a year of college eligibility (which could also heavily impact recruiting since a strong program will be less likely to recruit an athlete with more limited eligibility).

It also seems to impact high level athletes who may delay college for other training and competition opportunities. But this is a very small percent of all college athletes and may not matter as much to them -- if you are an Olympic gymnast, you might be a bit sad to lose a year or two of NCAA eligibility, but not enough to skip the Olympics and go straight to college.

+1

This is trying to end the reclassing game. Normal kids graduate when they are 17/18 years old. The hold back for sports are 19 when they graduate.

“Re-classing”