Fight traffic ticket or not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pay the ticket and pay attention.

I should invest in these camera companies that are making bank.

OP

Look, gently, don't try this in court. Judges get this kind of stuff all the time and being combative in court won't go well for you.

This. OP, go to court and see if they offer you a deal based on your record, but don't argue like this. And yes the other people that passed all got tickets, there are sensors and they issue them pretty much automatically.

[Anonymous]

Do the crime, pay the fine…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were there two lanes heading the same direction - you were in one lane and the bus was in another? Or did you actually pass the bus as in you were two tailing it and went around it on a single lane road?

There were three lanes with the bus in the far right lane and my car in the far left lane.

Since I first posted, we have since learned that the ticket website says the ticket happens when the red lights on the outside of the bus come on and not when the stop sign arm swings out. However, there is no proof that these lights went on in the video provided to us.

So, my take is that there's no proof we could have seen the lights and no proof that the lights went on as they should have. Plus, I wonder if the 2-3 other cars that passed by before and after also received tickets.

Can they enforce a ticket when they are not 100% sure the warning lights on the bus functioned properly?

OP

I hope you honestly don't believe you may be wrongly ticketed. Did you not see the yellow lights either?

I'm not the OP, but the buses in neighborhood often flash their yellows and let the drivers pass before they flash the red.

NP but I'm pretty sure I've seen buses put on their yellows and just pull over to the right. They never put on the reds or stop sign then. They are just waiting. Has anyone seen that or am I imagining it? If they are not actively doing pickups but waiting for sports teams, etc.

[Anonymous]

You are getting ticketed. Honestly if you try to fight it the judge may suspend your license. Do you have a driver?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are getting ticketed. Honestly if you try to fight it the judge may suspend your license. Do you have a driver?

she is not going to get a license suspended for going to court; don’t be ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were there two lanes heading the same direction - you were in one lane and the bus was in another? Or did you actually pass the bus as in you were two tailing it and went around it on a single lane road?

There were three lanes with the bus in the far right lane and my car in the far left lane.

Since I first posted, we have since learned that the ticket website says the ticket happens when the red lights on the outside of the bus come on and not when the stop sign arm swings out. However, there is no proof that these lights went on in the video provided to us.

So, my take is that there's no proof we could have seen the lights and no proof that the lights went on as they should have. Plus, I wonder if the 2-3 other cars that passed by before and after also received tickets.

Can they enforce a ticket when they are not 100% sure the warning lights on the bus functioned properly?

OP

I hope you honestly don't believe you may be wrongly ticketed. Did you not see the yellow lights either?

I'm not the OP, but the buses in neighborhood often flash their yellows and let the drivers pass before they flash the red.

NP but I'm pretty sure I've seen buses put on their yellows and just pull over to the right. They never put on the reds or stop sign then. They are just waiting. Has anyone seen that or am I imagining it? If they are not actively doing pickups but waiting for sports teams, etc.

They can’t wait with the red light on because no one would be able to pass them…

[Anonymous]

Tell the judge that you have never made a mistake before, so it's impossible that you were in the wrong.

[Anonymous]

You knew when the bus was braking and coming to a stop that the lights/sign were about to come out. It’s not like you need to see the stop sign to know you need to stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were there two lanes heading the same direction - you were in one lane and the bus was in another? Or did you actually pass the bus as in you were two tailing it and went around it on a single lane road?

There were three lanes with the bus in the far right lane and my car in the far left lane.

Since I first posted, we have since learned that the ticket website says the ticket happens when the red lights on the outside of the bus come on and not when the stop sign arm swings out. However, there is no proof that these lights went on in the video provided to us.

So, my take is that there's no proof we could have seen the lights and no proof that the lights went on as they should have. Plus, I wonder if the 2-3 other cars that passed by before and after also received tickets.

Can they enforce a ticket when they are not 100% sure the warning lights on the bus functioned properly?

OP

I hope you honestly don't believe you may be wrongly ticketed. Did you not see the yellow lights either?

I'm not the OP, but the buses in neighborhood often flash their yellows and let the drivers pass before they flash the red.

NP but I'm pretty sure I've seen buses put on their yellows and just pull over to the right. They never put on the reds or stop sign then. They are just waiting. Has anyone seen that or am I imagining it? If they are not actively doing pickups but waiting for sports teams, etc.

They can’t wait with the red light on because no one would be able to pass them…

Exactly. But are they using their flashing yellows and never progressing to red? In that case everyone's argument against OP is moot because the yellows would stay on indefinitely and yes, she should pass slowly with caution.

[Anonymous]

The court will assume the bus lights were functioning properly unless you prove otherwise.

How do you know the other drivers didn’t also get ticketed?

You had notice the bus was stopping and you aren’t showing any circumstances that would have made it unsafe for you to stop.

For a school bus.

There is a chance you could win or reduce your fine if you go to court. What will that cost you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were there two lanes heading the same direction - you were in one lane and the bus was in another? Or did you actually pass the bus as in you were two tailing it and went around it on a single lane road?

There were three lanes with the bus in the far right lane and my car in the far left lane.

Since I first posted, we have since learned that the ticket website says the ticket happens when the red lights on the outside of the bus come on and not when the stop sign arm swings out. However, there is no proof that these lights went on in the video provided to us.

So, my take is that there's no proof we could have seen the lights and no proof that the lights went on as they should have. Plus, I wonder if the 2-3 other cars that passed by before and after also received tickets.

Can they enforce a ticket when they are not 100% sure the warning lights on the bus functioned properly?

OP

I hope you honestly don't believe you may be wrongly ticketed. Did you not see the yellow lights either?

I'm not the OP, but the buses in neighborhood often flash their yellows and let the drivers pass before they flash the red.

NP but I'm pretty sure I've seen buses put on their yellows and just pull over to the right. They never put on the reds or stop sign then. They are just waiting. Has anyone seen that or am I imagining it? If they are not actively doing pickups but waiting for sports teams, etc.

They can’t wait with the red light on because no one would be able to pass them…

Exactly. But are they using their flashing yellows and never progressing to red? In that case everyone's argument against OP is moot because the yellows would stay on indefinitely and yes, she should pass slowly with caution.

OP s avoiding the question of whether they saw yellow flashing lights.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Should I take personal responsibility for my traffic violation, or frivolously consume taxpayer resources when there is literal video evidence, that I have reviewed, of my wrongdoing?”

There is no evidence in the video that the bus lights were functional.

Since other cars also passed through, I wonder if the lights worked.

OP

Camera tickets are self authenticating meaning if something was wrong/malfunctioning the camera wouldn’t issue a citation.

[Anonymous]

Tell the judge that you are a white woman so you cannot be guilty.

[Anonymous]

Just pay the fine and be more cautious in future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is Deja vu. One just like it a few months back.

The video proves you passed bus 1 second after lights turned red. Thats actually a decent amount of time. Plus the yellow lights gave you a warning.

The video does no such thing. All you can see is the arm of the bus stop sign.

OP

Did you see the yellow and then red bus lights when you were driving behind bus?

You are assuming they were behind the bus. What if they were on the side when they were activated, no way to see them, then when the arm pops out, no way to stop in 1 second.

I’d fight it.