NY Mag piece on K admissions

[Anonymous]

It's just sensation. Makes for good reading. And also a natural follow up to the Bloomberg article last month about $70,000 tuition... if that article hadn't gotten so much attention, this article never would have been written.

Was it very competitive this year? Yes. Is it very competitive every year? Yes. Keep in mind, that by the author's own admission, these private schools don't publish statistics, so it's anyone's guess what the real numbers looked like. And just because you can drum up a few rejection stories doesn't make it true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just sensation. Makes for good reading. And also a natural follow up to the Bloomberg article last month about $70,000 tuition... if that article hadn't gotten so much attention, this article never would have been written.

Was it very competitive this year? Yes. Is it very competitive every year? Yes. Keep in mind, that by the author's own admission, these private schools don't publish statistics, so it's anyone's guess what the real numbers looked like. And just because you can drum up a few rejection stories doesn't make it true.

A few schools (I know Packer is one) have publicly rated debt so there are rating agency reports about them. They give acceptance rates and some other stats. Acceptance rates are at all entry points so not very meaningful, but it is interesting to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just sensation. Makes for good reading. And also a natural follow up to the Bloomberg article last month about $70,000 tuition... if that article hadn't gotten so much attention, this article never would have been written.

Was it very competitive this year? Yes. Is it very competitive every year? Yes. Keep in mind, that by the author's own admission, these private schools don't publish statistics, so it's anyone's guess what the real numbers looked like. And just because you can drum up a few rejection stories doesn't make it true.

We had a call with someone from Parents League who said that applications were up 25% due to COVID baby boom and uncertainty around the new mayor. The article was definitely very bombastic but I do think it's going back to pre-COVID levels of competition, which had dropped off with families leaving the city during COVID.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's just sensation. Makes for good reading. And also a natural follow up to the Bloomberg article last month about $70,000 tuition... if that article hadn't gotten so much attention, this article never would have been written.

Was it very competitive this year? Yes. Is it very competitive every year? Yes. Keep in mind, that by the author's own admission, these private schools don't publish statistics, so it's anyone's guess what the real numbers looked like. And just because you can drum up a few rejection stories doesn't make it true.

We had a call with someone from Parents League who said that applications were up 25% due to COVID baby boom and uncertainty around the new mayor. The article was definitely very bombastic but I do think it's going back to pre-COVID levels of competition, which had dropped off with families leaving the city during COVID.

Live birth data published by NY State Department of Health does not seem to support the hypothesis of “Covid baby boom”.

Numbers of live births in NYC: 2020 - 94,857, 2021 - 92,523, 2022 - 92,094.

https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2020/table09.htm
https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2021/table09.htm
https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2022/table09.htm

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's just sensation. Makes for good reading. And also a natural follow up to the Bloomberg article last month about $70,000 tuition... if that article hadn't gotten so much attention, this article never would have been written.

Was it very competitive this year? Yes. Is it very competitive every year? Yes. Keep in mind, that by the author's own admission, these private schools don't publish statistics, so it's anyone's guess what the real numbers looked like. And just because you can drum up a few rejection stories doesn't make it true.

We had a call with someone from Parents League who said that applications were up 25% due to COVID baby boom and uncertainty around the new mayor. The article was definitely very bombastic but I do think it's going back to pre-COVID levels of competition, which had dropped off with families leaving the city during COVID.

Live birth data published by NY State Department of Health does not seem to support the hypothesis of “Covid baby boom”.

Numbers of live births in NYC: 2020 - 94,857, 2021 - 92,523, 2022 - 92,094.

https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2020/table09.htm
https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2021/table09.htm
https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2022/table09.htm

You do realize New York City attracts people from other countries and states right? So the NYS birth rate does not prove anything

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's just sensation. Makes for good reading. And also a natural follow up to the Bloomberg article last month about $70,000 tuition... if that article hadn't gotten so much attention, this article never would have been written.

Was it very competitive this year? Yes. Is it very competitive every year? Yes. Keep in mind, that by the author's own admission, these private schools don't publish statistics, so it's anyone's guess what the real numbers looked like. And just because you can drum up a few rejection stories doesn't make it true.

We had a call with someone from Parents League who said that applications were up 25% due to COVID baby boom and uncertainty around the new mayor. The article was definitely very bombastic but I do think it's going back to pre-COVID levels of competition, which had dropped off with families leaving the city during COVID.

Agree with this. Also just talking to my PSD who said admissions was absolutely crazy this year in comparison to even last year. Last year multiple kids got more than one offer, this year only one kid got two offers, everyone else got one offer and even one kid got completely waitlisted everywhere. This wasn’t the case last year.

I think people in it now don’t realize how competitive getting in to K was pre-COVID. After Covid admissions dropped in all private schools. Admissions is now slowly climbing back up and even though this year was s “bloodbath” just wait for next year and the next following few years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just sensation. Makes for good reading. And also a natural follow up to the Bloomberg article last month about $70,000 tuition... if that article hadn't gotten so much attention, this article never would have been written.

Was it very competitive this year? Yes. Is it very competitive every year? Yes. Keep in mind, that by the author's own admission, these private schools don't publish statistics, so it's anyone's guess what the real numbers looked like. And just because you can drum up a few rejection stories doesn't make it true.

We had a call with someone from Parents League who said that applications were up 25% due to COVID baby boom and uncertainty around the new mayor. The article was definitely very bombastic but I do think it's going back to pre-COVID levels of competition, which had dropped off with families leaving the city during COVID.

Live birth data published by NY State Department of Health does not seem to support the hypothesis of “Covid baby boom”.

Numbers of live births in NYC: 2020 - 94,857, 2021 - 92,523, 2022 - 92,094.

https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2020/table09.htm
https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2021/table09.htm
https://www.health.ny.gov/statistics/vital_statistics/2022/table09.htm

You do realize New York City attracts people from other countries and states right? So the NYS birth rate does not prove anything

I "realize" that over past 2-3 years the growth in NYC population has been minimal. There was no sudden influx of rich parents with young kids who all decided to apply for private K this year.

What is true is that more and more New Yorkers are choosing private schools over public (regardless of the sky high price tag). Total NYC public school enrollment keeps falling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Collegiate story at the end is consistent with the profile of some kids we know there. Not the same child or story but I believe it.

It is absolutely true. And if the family has a hook, they will never counsel out that kid, regardless of how wild he is (or how shitty his parents are). Sad, but true. The "new" (she has been there for a few years) Director of Admissions is ruining the school with her bad decisions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No paywall version

https://archive.is/20260303115524/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/private-school-admissions-kindergarten-nursery-school-feeders.html

Thanks for sharing.

This is fair and balanced compared to what the NYT puts out. I knew parents like Sara and Mark. I'm glad they included Alina Adams. If only the NYC public schools would welcome all families, instead of platforming LWNJ who favor in-group parents like themselves... that said, some parents would want private regardless.

LWNJ? Maybe the city isn’t for you.

I know of what I speak. NYC public schools should be for everyone. Spare me your ignorance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Collegiate story at the end is consistent with the profile of some kids we know there. Not the same child or story but I believe it.

It is absolutely true. And if the family has a hook, they will never counsel out that kid, regardless of how wild he is (or how shitty his parents are). Sad, but true. The "new" (she has been there for a few years) Director of Admissions is ruining the school with her bad decisions.

You seem deranged. Do you know how non deterministic it is to pick four year olds who may or may not go on to “succeed”?

So many of these kids never turn out the way their parents thought they would at age four.

- crusty old TT alum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No paywall version

https://archive.is/20260303115524/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/private-school-admissions-kindergarten-nursery-school-feeders.html

Thanks for sharing.

This is fair and balanced compared to what the NYT puts out. I knew parents like Sara and Mark. I'm glad they included Alina Adams. If only the NYC public schools would welcome all families, instead of platforming LWNJ who favor in-group parents like themselves... that said, some parents would want private regardless.

Wow. You have some MAGA angst. Step away from the Fox News. Not sure NYC is the right place for you. Betting your response will use one of the following terms: "woke" "TDS" "lib" "Mamdani".

And I find Alina Adams to be extremely hit or miss. I have read a lot of her posts and she is knowledgeable on some things but miles off on others. Wouldn't pay for her "expertise."

Wow. I don't have MAGA angst. I am a traditional Democrat. I've never watched Fox News. People like you are part of the problem I described above.

I'm glad that they included Alina Adams because she has been a public school parent. I don't agree with her on everything either, but I'm glad that they included her for a different perspective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No paywall version

https://archive.is/20260303115524/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/private-school-admissions-kindergarten-nursery-school-feeders.html

Thanks for sharing.

This is fair and balanced compared to what the NYT puts out. I knew parents like Sara and Mark. I'm glad they included Alina Adams. If only the NYC public schools would welcome all families, instead of platforming LWNJ who favor in-group parents like themselves... that said, some parents would want private regardless.

Wow. You have some MAGA angst. Step away from the Fox News. Not sure NYC is the right place for you. Betting your response will use one of the following terms: "woke" "TDS" "lib" "Mamdani".

And I find Alina Adams to be extremely hit or miss. I have read a lot of her posts and she is knowledgeable on some things but miles off on others. Wouldn't pay for her "expertise."

Stop it right there! I bet you’re not even a New Yorker! Don’t tell people that have a different opinion on politics they may not belong here. Diversity is New York. You’re free to not like it or fight against it but we’re not gonna have some cookie cutter town because people are getting shamed over their ideas

I read it not as telling you you don’t belong but rather that you’re often not gonna be happy in NYC if you’re MAGA, which in light of your complaining about the schools and “LWNJ” seems fair. Relax there bud.

Original PP: The person who you are responding to is not me. I'm not MAGA. Your assumption that complaining about the schools and LWNJ means someone is MAGA is ignorant. A lot of traditional Democrats disagree with the far-left. And yes, if you actually ever sat through a CEC or PEP meeting, you might actually know what I'm talking about but chances are you haven't so you have no idea what I am talking about but think that dealing in stereotypes is some kind of argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No paywall version

https://archive.is/20260303115524/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/private-school-admissions-kindergarten-nursery-school-feeders.html

Thanks for sharing.

This is fair and balanced compared to what the NYT puts out. I knew parents like Sara and Mark. I'm glad they included Alina Adams. If only the NYC public schools would welcome all families, instead of platforming LWNJ who favor in-group parents like themselves... that said, some parents would want private regardless.

Wow. You have some MAGA angst. Step away from the Fox News. Not sure NYC is the right place for you. Betting your response will use one of the following terms: "woke" "TDS" "lib" "Mamdani".

And I find Alina Adams to be extremely hit or miss. I have read a lot of her posts and she is knowledgeable on some things but miles off on others. Wouldn't pay for her "expertise."

Stop it right there! I bet you’re not even a New Yorker! Don’t tell people that have a different opinion on politics they may not belong here. Diversity is New York. You’re free to not like it or fight against it but we’re not gonna have some cookie cutter town because people are getting shamed over their ideas

Thank you. LWNJs involved in the DOE, CECs, and PEP want this to be a cookie cutter town. They are right, and everyone else is wrong. They are all about their truth, but they don't have to acknowledge anyone else's. The constant virtue signaling and shaming. It is sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No paywall version

https://archive.is/20260303115524/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/private-school-admissions-kindergarten-nursery-school-feeders.html

Thanks for sharing.

This is fair and balanced compared to what the NYT puts out. I knew parents like Sara and Mark. I'm glad they included Alina Adams. If only the NYC public schools would welcome all families, instead of platforming LWNJ who favor in-group parents like themselves... that said, some parents would want private regardless.

Wow. You have some MAGA angst. Step away from the Fox News. Not sure NYC is the right place for you. Betting your response will use one of the following terms: "woke" "TDS" "lib" "Mamdani".

And I find Alina Adams to be extremely hit or miss. I have read a lot of her posts and she is knowledgeable on some things but miles off on others. Wouldn't pay for her "expertise."

Stop it right there! I bet you’re not even a New Yorker! Don’t tell people that have a different opinion on politics they may not belong here. Diversity is New York. You’re free to not like it or fight against it but we’re not gonna have some cookie cutter town because people are getting shamed over their ideas

I read it not as telling you you don’t belong but rather that you’re often not gonna be happy in NYC if you’re MAGA, which in light of your complaining about the schools and “LWNJ” seems fair. Relax there bud.

Thank you. Exactly. They kind of proved my point. New Yorkers embrace diversity. But people who blindly trot out ignorant Fox News Propaganda speak are not embracing diversity. They blindly engaging in group think that is based in hatred of people different than themselves (and blaming these people for all of the world's problems), which runs counter to everything NYC stands for.

I loved having political discussions with true, old school conservatives. Our views might have varied a lot, but I could see where they were coming from. MAGA is far from that. I feel kind of bad for my old Republican friends because they morally can't stand Trump, but the Democratic party is pretty far from what they want also.

No, I didn't prove your point. You clearly are not a NYC public school parent. Sorry, New Yorkers don't embrace diversity as much you think they do. And as I said, I don't watch Fox News. You might want to brush up on the horseshoe theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No paywall version

https://archive.is/20260303115524/https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/private-school-admissions-kindergarten-nursery-school-feeders.html

Thanks for sharing.

This is fair and balanced compared to what the NYT puts out. I knew parents like Sara and Mark. I'm glad they included Alina Adams. If only the NYC public schools would welcome all families, instead of platforming LWNJ who favor in-group parents like themselves... that said, some parents would want private regardless.

Wow. You have some MAGA angst. Step away from the Fox News. Not sure NYC is the right place for you. Betting your response will use one of the following terms: "woke" "TDS" "lib" "Mamdani".

And I find Alina Adams to be extremely hit or miss. I have read a lot of her posts and she is knowledgeable on some things but miles off on others. Wouldn't pay for her "expertise."

Stop it right there! I bet you’re not even a New Yorker! Don’t tell people that have a different opinion on politics they may not belong here. Diversity is New York. You’re free to not like it or fight against it but we’re not gonna have some cookie cutter town because people are getting shamed over their ideas

Thank you. LWNJs involved in the DOE, CECs, and PEP want this to be a cookie cutter town. They are right, and everyone else is wrong. They are all about their truth, but they don't have to acknowledge anyone else's. The constant virtue signaling and shaming. It is sad.

Again, I think NYC is not for you.