Coming to the end of economy? United new business Polaris taking up 3/4 and I’m good with that

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Anonymous wrote:I wondered about the bad math but then I decided that the person meant 3/4ths of the visible space.

And fewer economy class passengers than there would have been even though they still outnumber premium payers.

I don't see value in the luxury of paying thousands more to be on the same conveyance with same arrival and departure times. But some people do get aches and pains from smaller seats.

I will pay double to avoid all the fighting and crazy people. It's also a better experience

I would pay double for that and an airline that allows no children under the age of ten.

agree, no children under 10 should be allowed in business class or higher unless they rent out the entire cabin

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

Well they don't have to be below, just make sure there is a wall in front of economy, and they can only enter from the back of the plane. Let's not go overboard here.

Lol. So now when somebody has a medical emergency in economy the doctor flying business can't get back there and help them. This is fine.

This happened to us. Two hours from landing, my spouse is a doctor, and no one wanted to help a passenger all the way in the back, so my spouse went from row 2 all the way to the back to help someone who was having a heart attack and needed to be defibrillated. They even told my spouse to stay by the sick passenger on the floor while the plane landed, and my spouse waited for the EMS to come and take the person away. When the airlines reached out to us, they apologized for the disruption. They gave us $50 in miles, which were useless. So my spouse risked life and disrupted our business class seats for 2 hours as the plane landed for a passenger, and that was the reward. I guess there are karma points, but they can have the flight attendants help the passenger and defib next time.

Your spouse "risked life" how exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:Of all the DCUM elite posts in the Travel section, this is perhaps the DCUMiest.

I do have a concern about this new plane interior, though: will it be more challenging to enjoy your privilege when there are so many of you enjoying it? Don’t you need a vast number of lesser travelers to feel special?

You still get to watch the "lesser thans" trudging back to economy! That gets the teeny peen tingling!

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I'm honestly surprised the majors have not been flying all-premium planes yet in the best time slots on high-volume routes. Then have an all-economy plane at a crappier time slot.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

I miss flying first class on Lufthansa's 747. Upper deck, they block the aisles while you board and deplane so you don't have to mingle with the commoners....sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

Well they don't have to be below, just make sure there is a wall in front of economy, and they can only enter from the back of the plane. Let's not go overboard here.

Lol. So now when somebody has a medical emergency in economy the doctor flying business can't get back there and help them. This is fine.

This happened to us. Two hours from landing, my spouse is a doctor, and no one wanted to help a passenger all the way in the back, so my spouse went from row 2 all the way to the back to help someone who was having a heart attack and needed to be defibrillated. They even told my spouse to stay by the sick passenger on the floor while the plane landed, and my spouse waited for the EMS to come and take the person away. When the airlines reached out to us, they apologized for the disruption. They gave us $50 in miles, which were useless. So my spouse risked life and disrupted our business class seats for 2 hours as the plane landed for a passenger, and that was the reward. I guess there are karma points, but they can have the flight attendants help the passenger and defib next time.

Your spouse "risked life" how exactly?

You know that final part of a flight when they tell everybody to be in their seats with their seat belts fastened for landing? PP's spouse was on the floor for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

I miss flying first class on Lufthansa's 747. Upper deck, they block the aisles while you board and deplane so you don't have to mingle with the commoners....sigh.

Still pretty common if boarding happens from L2 on widebodies- turn left for business, right for economy. On deplaning business goes first.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wondered about the bad math but then I decided that the person meant 3/4ths of the visible space.

And fewer economy class passengers than there would have been even though they still outnumber premium payers.

I don't see value in the luxury of paying thousands more to be on the same conveyance with same arrival and departure times. But some people do get aches and pains from smaller seats.

I will pay double to avoid all the fighting and crazy people. It's also a better experience

Business class tamps down my flight anxiety as I can at least try to lay down and sleep/be comfortable. I’ve only flown it twice though.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

Well they don't have to be below, just make sure there is a wall in front of economy, and they can only enter from the back of the plane. Let's not go overboard here.

Lol. So now when somebody has a medical emergency in economy the doctor flying business can't get back there and help them. This is fine.

This happened to us. Two hours from landing, my spouse is a doctor, and no one wanted to help a passenger all the way in the back, so my spouse went from row 2 all the way to the back to help someone who was having a heart attack and needed to be defibrillated. They even told my spouse to stay by the sick passenger on the floor while the plane landed, and my spouse waited for the EMS to come and take the person away. When the airlines reached out to us, they apologized for the disruption. They gave us $50 in miles, which were useless. So my spouse risked life and disrupted our business class seats for 2 hours as the plane landed for a passenger, and that was the reward. I guess there are karma points, but they can have the flight attendants help the passenger and defib next time.

Your spouse "risked life" how exactly?

You know that final part of a flight when they tell everybody to be in their seats with their seat belts fastened for landing? PP's spouse was on the floor for that.

That's an incredibly overwrought way to describe that and you know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

Well they don't have to be below, just make sure there is a wall in front of economy, and they can only enter from the back of the plane. Let's not go overboard here.

Lol. So now when somebody has a medical emergency in economy the doctor flying business can't get back there and help them. This is fine.

This happened to us. Two hours from landing, my spouse is a doctor, and no one wanted to help a passenger all the way in the back, so my spouse went from row 2 all the way to the back to help someone who was having a heart attack and needed to be defibrillated. They even told my spouse to stay by the sick passenger on the floor while the plane landed, and my spouse waited for the EMS to come and take the person away. When the airlines reached out to us, they apologized for the disruption. They gave us $50 in miles, which were useless. So my spouse risked life and disrupted our business class seats for 2 hours as the plane landed for a passenger, and that was the reward. I guess there are karma points, but they can have the flight attendants help the passenger and defib next time.

Your spouse "risked life" how exactly?

rather than taking their seat during landing they were on the ground helping the the person having a heart attack

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the DCUM elite posts in the Travel section, this is perhaps the DCUMiest.

I do have a concern about this new plane interior, though: will it be more challenging to enjoy your privilege when there are so many of you enjoying it? Don’t you need a vast number of lesser travelers to feel special?

You still get to watch the "lesser thans" trudging back to economy! That gets the teeny peen tingling!

One nice thing about some of the larger planes is that there are separate entrances for business class and economy, so you don't have to do that awkward eye contact when they pass by. Lufthansa has a setup at Dulles where, if you are in the lounges, you can board directly onto the business class from there and never even have to see people in economy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

Well they don't have to be below, just make sure there is a wall in front of economy, and they can only enter from the back of the plane. Let's not go overboard here.

Lol. So now when somebody has a medical emergency in economy the doctor flying business can't get back there and help them. This is fine.

This happened to us. Two hours from landing, my spouse is a doctor, and no one wanted to help a passenger all the way in the back, so my spouse went from row 2 all the way to the back to help someone who was having a heart attack and needed to be defibrillated. They even told my spouse to stay by the sick passenger on the floor while the plane landed, and my spouse waited for the EMS to come and take the person away. When the airlines reached out to us, they apologized for the disruption. They gave us $50 in miles, which were useless. So my spouse risked life and disrupted our business class seats for 2 hours as the plane landed for a passenger, and that was the reward. I guess there are karma points, but they can have the flight attendants help the passenger and defib next time.

Your spouse "risked life" how exactly?

You know that final part of a flight when they tell everybody to be in their seats with their seat belts fastened for landing? PP's spouse was on the floor for that.

Yeah that's pretty unconscionable by the flight attendants. They are trained for that. They constantly tell us they are there for "our safety". But guess not when they can have some other passenger do their work while they buckle up in a jump seat.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish they'd just move the economy seats below where the luggage is, so I don't have to look at their sad and envious eyes as they walk past my business class seats, when I am sipping my champagne.

Well they don't have to be below, just make sure there is a wall in front of economy, and they can only enter from the back of the plane. Let's not go overboard here.

Lol. So now when somebody has a medical emergency in economy the doctor flying business can't get back there and help them. This is fine.

This happened to us. Two hours from landing, my spouse is a doctor, and no one wanted to help a passenger all the way in the back, so my spouse went from row 2 all the way to the back to help someone who was having a heart attack and needed to be defibrillated. They even told my spouse to stay by the sick passenger on the floor while the plane landed, and my spouse waited for the EMS to come and take the person away. When the airlines reached out to us, they apologized for the disruption. They gave us $50 in miles, which were useless. So my spouse risked life and disrupted our business class seats for 2 hours as the plane landed for a passenger, and that was the reward. I guess there are karma points, but they can have the flight attendants help the passenger and defib next time.

Your spouse "risked life" how exactly?

You know that final part of a flight when they tell everybody to be in their seats with their seat belts fastened for landing? PP's spouse was on the floor for that.

That's an incredibly overwrought way to describe that and you know it.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/21/world/singapore-airlines-turbulence-bangkok

Those seat belts are there for a reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wondered about the bad math but then I decided that the person meant 3/4ths of the visible space.

And fewer economy class passengers than there would have been even though they still outnumber premium payers.

I don't see value in the luxury of paying thousands more to be on the same conveyance with same arrival and departure times. But some people do get aches and pains from smaller seats.

I will pay double to avoid all the fighting and crazy people. It's also a better experience

I would pay double for that and an airline that allows no children under the age of ten.

agree, no children under 10 should be allowed in business class or higher unless they rent out the entire cabin

My kids all flew first class for the first few years of their life. It's way more comfortable up there with a baby/toddler.

I still had status back then. I don't fly as often for work anymore so they usually have to slum it in coach now. We still do upgrade for some longer flights, but pay for it instead of using upgrades.

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^ to be fair, they are better fliers than most adults