Priest today said lusting for someone (thoughts) is just as bad as actually cheating (sex)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I don't listen to sermons. Priests aren't more intelligent or wiser than average. This particular gem was very stupid.

And no, it's not Catholic doctrine. He's just incredibly insecure in his vows, that one

I don't think I'll ever understand whole groups of people that take advice on topics presumably from a person with zero points of reference.

You don’t think priests fantasize about sex?

[Anonymous]

It's definitely evangelical. I knew some. Thought crime for being human...if you thought someone was pretty, or good looking in any way, you were to repent..lol

[Anonymous]

If you were listening, it was in the Gospel reading yesterday: Matthew 5:17-37. My priest didn't dwell on that part though.

[Anonymous]

OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

[Anonymous]

This is not an uncommon teaching.

Like truthfully, can you tell me is this new to you?

For example, and this is just one… Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds that’s a Zionism teaching.

Do you know what the 10 Commandments are?

Thou shall not covet your neighbor’s wife. Are you familiar with this concept?

[Anonymous]

Agree- absolutely nothing new in this sermon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

That is complete bullshit. Of course you can minimize your lusting after other people.

My reaction is you’re trying to minimize your ability, control your mind and your thoughts.

Believe me if you never think about it you’re never gonna do it. When people say it “just happens”… no it didn’t you thought about it for a long time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

That is complete bullshit. Of course you can minimize your lusting after other people.

My reaction is you’re trying to minimize your ability, control your mind and your thoughts.

Believe me if you never think about it you’re never gonna do it. When people say it “just happens”… no it didn’t you thought about it for a long time

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

That is complete bullshit. Of course you can minimize your lusting after other people.

My reaction is you’re trying to minimize your ability, control your mind and your thoughts.

Believe me if you never think about it you’re never gonna do it. When people say it “just happens”… no it didn’t you thought about it for a long time

Agree.

The most perfect Catholics have graced us with their presence. We should be so honored to have you both here.

[Anonymous]

This AI-related response tells it like it is.

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 2517-2523), impure thoughts are only sinful when deliberately entertained, consented to, or enjoyed, rather than merely passing temptations. While Jesus warns that lustful thoughts in the heart constitute adultery (Matt 5:28), they become mortal sins only with full knowledge and deliberate consent.

Key aspects of the Catholic perspective on impure thoughts:
Temptation vs. Sin: Initial, involuntary thoughts (temptation) are not sinful; they are part of the human experience and should be rejected rather than welcomed.

Consent is Key: A sin is committed when the will consents to, cherishes, or delights in the impure thought, thereby "feeding" it.
Grave Matter: Deliberately harboring thoughts of a sexual nature constitutes "grave matter," violating the 6th and 9th Commandments.

Responsibility: One is responsible if they place themselves in occasions of sin (e.g., viewing inappropriate media) that provoke these thoughts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This AI-related response tells it like it is.

According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 2517-2523), impure thoughts are only sinful when deliberately entertained, consented to, or enjoyed, rather than merely passing temptations. While Jesus warns that lustful thoughts in the heart constitute adultery (Matt 5:28), they become mortal sins only with full knowledge and deliberate consent.

Key aspects of the Catholic perspective on impure thoughts:
Temptation vs. Sin: Initial, involuntary thoughts (temptation) are not sinful; they are part of the human experience and should be rejected rather than welcomed.

Consent is Key: A sin is committed when the will consents to, cherishes, or delights in the impure thought, thereby "feeding" it.
Grave Matter: Deliberately harboring thoughts of a sexual nature constitutes "grave matter," violating the 6th and 9th Commandments.

Responsibility: One is responsible if they place themselves in occasions of sin (e.g., viewing inappropriate media) that provoke these thoughts.

So there are works-arounds -- at least according to AI. Did the Church foresee AI? Does it approve of AI responses to Catholic doctrine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

That is complete bullshit. Of course you can minimize your lusting after other people.

My reaction is you’re trying to minimize your ability, control your mind and your thoughts.

Believe me if you never think about it you’re never gonna do it. When people say it “just happens”… no it didn’t you thought about it for a long time

You must not be a man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

That is complete bullshit. Of course you can minimize your lusting after other people.

My reaction is you’re trying to minimize your ability, control your mind and your thoughts.

Believe me if you never think about it you’re never gonna do it. When people say it “just happens”… no it didn’t you thought about it for a long time

You must not be a man.

Not even all men can NOT control their lusting natures. No excuses for not being able to control yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

That is complete bullshit. Of course you can minimize your lusting after other people.

My reaction is you’re trying to minimize your ability, control your mind and your thoughts.

Believe me if you never think about it you’re never gonna do it. When people say it “just happens”… no it didn’t you thought about it for a long time

Agree.

The most perfect Catholics have graced us with their presence. We should be so honored to have you both here.

You’re welcome

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP my reaction is the latest is trying to minimize actual cheating. No one can control their thoughts. So this is like saying everyone cheats so why are we making a big deal about actual adulteres. Feels very gross like protecting powerful people who do bad things.

That is complete bullshit. Of course you can minimize your lusting after other people.

My reaction is you’re trying to minimize your ability, control your mind and your thoughts.

Believe me if you never think about it you’re never gonna do it. When people say it “just happens”… no it didn’t you thought about it for a long time

Touche. Excellent point. That viral Coldplay concert cheating couple [the married CEO and his married HR executive] tried to play this angle. Oh it was just one too many cans of alcohol, we were just a platonic office crush and just danced at a concert that one time. Total baloney.