Why unemployment is rising among young recent college grads

Anonymous
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Acc to the article young grads are entering the workforce without useful skills. A lot of them are used to getting accommodations for learning differences and then struggle in the workplace.

“The real problem is a mismatch between labor supply and demand. Government subsidies and public schools have funneled too many young people to credential mills, which churn out grads who lack the skills that employers demand. Many would be better off training in skilled trades, for which demand is enormous.

Colleges have added graduate programs in fields like urban planning, sustainability and fine arts to rake in more federal dollars. Students had been allowed to take out unlimited federal loans for graduate studies until last summer’s GOP tax bill capped borrowing at $200,000 for professional degrees (like medicine or law) and $100,000 for others.

One result: Young college grads enter a labor market that is saturated with heavily credentialed workers. But they have less work experience and are often less productive than their older counterparts. Many skated through college by relying on AI to do their work. Take ChatGPT away, and they struggle to function.

Some also struggle with executive functioning because of disability accommodations in high school and college that allowed them extra time to complete tests and assignments. More than 20% of undergrads at Harvard and Brown and 38% at Stanford have registered disabilities.

Employers are required by law to make accommodations for disabled workers, but that doesn’t mean they have to hire someone who can’t meet a deadline or doesn’t want to work on a weekend because she’s “cooked.” Or for that matter, someone who needs his hand held all the time—a common employer gripe about recent grads.”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/why-unemployment-is-rising-among-young-college-grads-42d037da?st=3eeVwS&reflink=article_copyURL_share



I don’t understand why some people think recent graduates shouldn’t get the same or similar accommodations in the workplace as they are entitled to get at university.


Sigh—you just reminded me of an intern candidate whose mother essentially called us several times after her child was rejected.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Acc to the article young grads are entering the workforce without useful skills. A lot of them are used to getting accommodations for learning differences and then struggle in the workplace.

“The real problem is a mismatch between labor supply and demand. Government subsidies and public schools have funneled too many young people to credential mills, which churn out grads who lack the skills that employers demand. Many would be better off training in skilled trades, for which demand is enormous.

Colleges have added graduate programs in fields like urban planning, sustainability and fine arts to rake in more federal dollars. Students had been allowed to take out unlimited federal loans for graduate studies until last summer’s GOP tax bill capped borrowing at $200,000 for professional degrees (like medicine or law) and $100,000 for others.

One result: Young college grads enter a labor market that is saturated with heavily credentialed workers. But they have less work experience and are often less productive than their older counterparts. Many skated through college by relying on AI to do their work. Take ChatGPT away, and they struggle to function.

Some also struggle with executive functioning because of disability accommodations in high school and college that allowed them extra time to complete tests and assignments. More than 20% of undergrads at Harvard and Brown and 38% at Stanford have registered disabilities.

Employers are required by law to make accommodations for disabled workers, but that doesn’t mean they have to hire someone who can’t meet a deadline or doesn’t want to work on a weekend because she’s “cooked.” Or for that matter, someone who needs his hand held all the time—a common employer gripe about recent grads.”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/why-unemployment-is-rising-among-young-college-grads-42d037da?st=3eeVwS&reflink=article_copyURL_share



I don’t understand why some people think recent graduates shouldn’t get the same or similar accommodations in the workplace as they are entitled to get at university.


Sigh—you just reminded me of an intern candidate whose mother essentially called us several times after her child was rejected.

does this really happen? Lordy.
Anonymous
Approx 730,000 H1b workers are currently employed in the US. Why do we need to import workers when there is a glut of college-age labor that can be trained to fill these roles?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Approx 730,000 H1b workers are currently employed in the US. Why do we need to import workers when there is a glut of college-age labor that can be trained to fill these roles?

Ask the corporate heads like Trump why they would prefer cheaper foreign workers over American college grads.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:BS. We are in a recession. People in the workforce are sitting tight, or snapping up positions if laid off. This leaves little room for new grads.


Yes. That was me 35 years ago. And 24 years ago it happened to the MBA class after mine. I don't believe it's AI-driven. It's just a sort of economy-driven hiring freeze.

I would be interested in more urban planners and sustainability experts making our Earth a better place to live. Instead, we've got billionaires trying to fund "The Singularity", building luxury bunkers, and planning space missions. We are obviously on a more warlike footing with a whole bunch of countries. Things are on a bad trajectory at the moment.

People don't know what businesses we should be investing in right now that are cash-profitable, high growth, and not a horrible choice for humanity. It's enshittification.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Acc to the article young grads are entering the workforce without useful skills. A lot of them are used to getting accommodations for learning differences and then struggle in the workplace.



“The real problem is a mismatch between labor supply and demand. Government subsidies and public schools have funneled too many young people to credential mills, which churn out grads who lack the skills that employers demand. Many would be better off training in skilled trades, for which demand is enormous.

Colleges have added graduate programs in fields like urban planning, sustainability and fine arts to rake in more federal dollars. Students had been allowed to take out unlimited federal loans for graduate studies until last summer’s GOP tax bill capped borrowing at $200,000 for professional degrees (like medicine or law) and $100,000 for others.

One result: Young college grads enter a labor market that is saturated with heavily credentialed workers. But they have less work experience and are often less productive than their older counterparts. Many skated through college by relying on AI to do their work. Take ChatGPT away, and they struggle to function.

Some also struggle with executive functioning because of disability accommodations in high school and college that allowed them extra time to complete tests and assignments. More than 20% of undergrads at Harvard and Brown and 38% at Stanford have registered disabilities.

Employers are required by law to make accommodations for disabled workers, but that doesn’t mean they have to hire someone who can’t meet a deadline or doesn’t want to work on a weekend because she’s “cooked.” Or for that matter, someone who needs his hand held all the time—a common employer gripe about recent grads.”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/why-unemployment-is-rising-among-young-college-grads-42d037da?st=3eeVwS&reflink=article_copyURL_share



I don’t understand why some people think recent graduates shouldn’t get the same or similar accommodations in the workplace as they are entitled to get at university.


Well we have been doing it since the ADA. I have been providing accommodations and implementing accommodations for decades.

Sign language interpreters, TTY, Franklin Covey classes, on and on and on


But what most kids are getting for accommodations these days is extra time on assignments. Client deadlines don't adjust for accomodations like that. Interpreters, physical accommodations, TTY, that doesn't change when the client receives the product they paid for.


That's not how the real world works.

Lawyers bill time not deliverables.

Also, for those that have deliverables that are due on X date... I don't say you have to work 8 hour days, if it take you 10 hours a day and you are getting paid for a deliverable, IDGAF how long it takes you.



That's fine. But these kids have grown up with "extended time" meaning that they don't have to turn something in for X days past the due date. They don't understand they can take as much time as they need as long as it still is turned over by the due date.
Anonymous
I also think fact kids no longer work during college makes it hard to hire them. They go away to school, party four years, maybe work a summer camp or waitress in summer and a fluff internship after junior year at best. So they really have not much qualificationst that are turn key.

For instance my brother majored in Accounting. He did not go away to school. He worked as an employee at a midsized public accouting firm Junor and senior year. 20 hours a week during School year and 40 hours in summer. I did the same I worked at Mastercard all four years. Both of us upon graduation continued in current job for a few months to a year.

That does not happen today very often. So you get someone with no real skills in an office, just text book knowledge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's H1b visas - end those and we can employ college grads again


Fake News from MAGA.

Employable college grads are getting employed. Trash who spent their time fornicating in college and doing BS courses are unemployed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's H1b visas - end those and we can employ college grads again


Fake News from MAGA.

Employable college grads are getting employed. Trash who spent their time fornicating in college and doing BS courses are unemployed.


Define "Employable"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nobody knows that they need accommodations til much later.
'I need direct instructions', she said after working for us for 6 months. It is all in the training manual. Do I have to read it to her once a month?
They have been through many interviews and trainings. They nail those. The family emergencies/deaths start on the first week.
Few say that they they changed their mind or we were not a good fit. They'd rather kill off Fido.


+1

And top companies are still coming to ivies to recruit on campus with networking events. Students at top schools remain in huge demand. They can filter out the extra time type accommodations kids and yet have plenty left to hire. That is why they target certain schools in the first place. Every year they recruit at DC ‘s ivy, this year is no different despite the economic downturn for overall jobs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's H1b visas - end those and we can employ college grads again


Fake News from MAGA.

Employable college grads are getting employed. Trash who spent their time fornicating in college and doing BS courses are unemployed.


Define "Employable"


-top school, the higher the better for the top companies
-difficult upper level coursework, especially if a non-T20
-good gpa (matters much more the lower ranked the school is)
-resume with related experience at least one summer
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's H1b visas - end those and we can employ college grads again


Fake News from MAGA.

Employable college grads are getting employed. Trash who spent their time fornicating in college and doing BS courses are unemployed.


Define "Employable"


-top school, the higher the better for the top companies
-difficult upper level coursework, especially if a non-T20
-good gpa (matters much more the lower ranked the school is)
-resume with related experience at least one summer


You meant people from this list right?
https://www.uscis.gov/tools/reports-and-studies/h-1b-employer-data-hub
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's H1b visas - end those and we can employ college grads again


Fake News from MAGA.

Employable college grads are getting employed. Trash who spent their time fornicating in college and doing BS courses are unemployed.


Define "Employable"


-top school, the higher the better for the top companies
-difficult upper level coursework, especially if a non-T20
-good gpa (matters much more the lower ranked the school is)
-resume with related experience at least one summer


Or these?
https://www.investmentnews.com/wirehouses/bny-goldman-double-down-on-tech-with-digital-employees-and-ai-agents/265198
Anonymous
The sooner we examine changes in the employment landscape and move away from the illusion of selling prestige or outdated college and internship advice to upcoming new graduates, the better.
Anonymous
Trump crashed the world economy. Employers have stopped hiring because they’re confused. They have no idea what Trump will turn upside down next.
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