Oakmont Regionals - No scoreboard!

[Anonymous]

Apparently it is now working per a friend if mine who is there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently it is now working per a friend if mine who is there

It works. There just needs to be someone there who knows how to make it run.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

[Anonymous]

Such a cliche for the county to have spent money on this thing that has one important purpose, and it sitting there last night unused.

These things are not rocket science. With a good SOP they wouldn’t have to rely on one person being there who knows how to use it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

Outrage? Overblown? Misplaced? People complained on a message board. I think you need a dictionary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

How could complaints be misplaced when something happened and it resulted in scoreboard usage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

Exactly! There is no reason this shouldn’t have been working! You don’t host a swim meet then not have the board working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

Exactly! There is no reason this shouldn’t have been working! You don’t host a swim meet then not have the board working.

Hopefully it’s a lessons learned and they having it working for the meet next weekend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

Outrage? Overblown? Misplaced? People complained on a message board. I think you need a dictionary.

DP but I agree with PP. using words like “infuriating”, throwing around tax payer dollar references, and implying blame on overworked volunteers from those watching from the stands limited the credibility of the concern. Next time just send a polite email to an official point of contact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

Outrage? Overblown? Misplaced? People complained on a message board. I think you need a dictionary.

DP but I agree with PP. using words like “infuriating”, throwing around tax payer dollar references, and implying blame on overworked volunteers from those watching from the stands limited the credibility of the concern. Next time just send a polite email to an official point of contact.

This is completely appropriate. You need to increase your tolerance!

As for blaming volunteers, of course it is the facility’s fault BUT the question is: did the meet hosts do anything before or up to Saturday’s board usage to fix the issue? By collecting admission fees and renting the facility, there is at least some obligation there: ask the employees to fix it, find out how to use it, ask them for the contact of someone in the know, etc. Not expecting the host team to spend lots of time on it, but asking an employee to help or to let someone higher up know it needs to be running is more than expected or appropriate. You’d do this with touch pads, lane lines, starting blocks or any other expected piece of equipment that is reasonably necessary and available. To do nothing is wrong.

I’m curious to know what changed bw Fri and Sat - what caused it to be working and how much effort it took on non-employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

Outrage? Overblown? Misplaced? People complained on a message board. I think you need a dictionary.

DP but I agree with PP. using words like “infuriating”, throwing around tax payer dollar references, and implying blame on overworked volunteers from those watching from the stands limited the credibility of the concern. Next time just send a polite email to an official point of contact.

This is completely appropriate. You need to increase your tolerance!

As for blaming volunteers, of course it is the facility’s fault BUT the question is: did the meet hosts do anything before or up to Saturday’s board usage to fix the issue? By collecting admission fees and renting the facility, there is at least some obligation there: ask the employees to fix it, find out how to use it, ask them for the contact of someone in the know, etc. Not expecting the host team to spend lots of time on it, but asking an employee to help or to let someone higher up know it needs to be running is more than expected or appropriate. You’d do this with touch pads, lane lines, starting blocks or any other expected piece of equipment that is reasonably necessary and available. To do nothing is wrong.

I’m curious to know what changed bw Fri and Sat - what caused it to be working and how much effort it took on non-employees.

Again, we are discussing a public school meet at a county facility. I’m not sure you appreciate the level of “extremely busy with other things” the “hosts” were on Friday evening. Most of the other items you mentioned are critical to the meet, this was not. The entitlement of parents when the deck is filled with mostly retirement age officials and other parents busting their asses so that other people’s kids can swim is boundless.
Sounds like they did get it to work for Saturday night. Someone probably looked into it on Saturday during the day, when they had time to take a breath after Friday night’s session. I’m sure that wasn’t a top priority Friday evening.
I hope you’re actively donating your time and expertise weekly to HS sports if you’re refusing to extend any grace to those that are. Or you know, increase your tolerance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

Outrage? Overblown? Misplaced? People complained on a message board. I think you need a dictionary.

DP but I agree with PP. using words like “infuriating”, throwing around tax payer dollar references, and implying blame on overworked volunteers from those watching from the stands limited the credibility of the concern. Next time just send a polite email to an official point of contact.

This is completely appropriate. You need to increase your tolerance!

As for blaming volunteers, of course it is the facility’s fault BUT the question is: did the meet hosts do anything before or up to Saturday’s board usage to fix the issue? By collecting admission fees and renting the facility, there is at least some obligation there: ask the employees to fix it, find out how to use it, ask them for the contact of someone in the know, etc. Not expecting the host team to spend lots of time on it, but asking an employee to help or to let someone higher up know it needs to be running is more than expected or appropriate. You’d do this with touch pads, lane lines, starting blocks or any other expected piece of equipment that is reasonably necessary and available. To do nothing is wrong.

I’m curious to know what changed bw Fri and Sat - what caused it to be working and how much effort it took on non-employees.

Again, we are discussing a public school meet at a county facility. I’m not sure you appreciate the level of “extremely busy with other things” the “hosts” were on Friday evening. Most of the other items you mentioned are critical to the meet, this was not. The entitlement of parents when the deck is filled with mostly retirement age officials and other parents busting their asses so that other people’s kids can swim is boundless.
Sounds like they did get it to work for Saturday night. Someone probably looked into it on Saturday during the day, when they had time to take a breath after Friday night’s session. I’m sure that wasn’t a top priority Friday evening.
I hope you’re actively donating your time and expertise weekly to HS sports if you’re refusing to extend any grace to those that are. Or you know, increase your tolerance.

Instead of having two people collect money at the entrance (when they worked together for each transaction, not separately), for 5 minutes, have one person walk 2 steps to the front desk, explain the issue and ask who can help or the contact of who to contact. This would have taken less time than to set up the digital displays on the high diving platform on Friday evening. Yeah, someone looked into it on Saturday...obviously. That's the extent of the effort I'm expecting on Friday: Hey, OakMont...please look into this as we've paid for this facility. Yeah, they had time for that...especially on Friday when the meet didn't start for a very, very, very long time.

Oh, and I volunteered both Friday and Sat. nights. Next?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could you imagine going to a HS basketball or football game with no scoreboard?

Swim should get to use the board, and swim in facilities with one for post-season meets.

A parent shouldn't have to wait 30 min to see "maybe" a post on the wall. I've been to 5 years of high school dual meets and never seen one. Many races are within milliseconds.

The ADs should figure out what needs to happen to make it happen.

I’ve been to a HS basketball game before! They’re held as high schools. High schools that buy the scoreboards and operate them for their singular purpose on a nearly daily basis during basketball season.

Kind of the opposite of OakMarr, which hosts 3 or 4 real swim meets a year. Don’t know about HS dual meets, which are pointless. If you want to be mad,
be mad at the OakMarr IT guy, who doesn’t really exist.

And to find it infuriating- you are too dependent on technology. I guess you never went to a meet before scoreboards were common and waited for results to be posted on dot matrix printouts. Chill out, grow up.

NP:

You make it sound like the parent is at a meet where a scoreboard isn’t available and was never available and is complaining.

the county (taxes) paid for this board. If you think it’s okay to spend money on something that is useful but unused, sounds like you’re the one with the faulty thinking. Clearly if it wasn’t used one night and was the next, it isn’t a massively complicated system. It’s a lazy breakdown on the county’s part.

No, it’s obvious I think:

-the complaints are misplaced
-the outrage is overblown

However, there should be a manual for the Oakmont staff to get the board operational.

Outrage? Overblown? Misplaced? People complained on a message board. I think you need a dictionary.

Complaining on a public message board is misguided. Speaking to Rec center management might be productive, and not misguided.