"In case you aren't looking at your email"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give it a thumbs up and move on with your life.

This. Imagine how much easier it would have been to give it a thumbs up and forget about it until the morning. Instead, OP it treating it as a crime against humanity and stewing about it.

OP, don't sweat the small stuff, and this is pretty darn small. Not "as toxic as it gets," FFS.

[Anonymous]

An alternate perspective - maybe this younger employee is anxious about whatever work event the reminder pertains to and more generally about supervising people older and more experienced than s/he. Try not to take it personally.

(I'm 54, and this would annoy me, too.)

[Anonymous]

You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

[Anonymous]

My boss is a crazy early bird. Bad menopause and hot flashes so she gets up early some days and shoots out emails like crazy, so up at 5 am and doing work.

I on other hand my wife goes to bed early like by 9 pm and I like to shoot out emails and stuff while watching TV between 10 pm and midnight.
Any one cc with us will think we are nuts. Funny part I also go online before I drive to work. So I can email at midnight. She follows up at 5am and I get back to her at six am.

I joke the day is over by 7 am. I also used to pregame Sunday night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

Ha ha reminds me my old job, got up to take a piss at 315 am. Got a message beep in phone can I jump on a meeting at 330 am. Sure why not. Was folks in Australia and I did the video meeting. I got kudos but really I don’t sleep much so from 9pm to 7 am more than happy to chat

[Anonymous]

i honestly think the only people bothered by this are going to be women 50+ in low and mid level jobs.

No one cares when emails are sent anymore. It's not 2012. You have to use common sense about your workplace to know if you need to be checking email after 'your' regular hours. But the sender does not need to save their emails until 9am tomorrow morning. Rather, you're permitted to ignore their email until you see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

Right ...because a text at 1930 is totally the same as a call at 3am.

[Anonymous]

Was it warranted, as in, the recipient had not responded in a timely fashion? If that's the case, then the recipient cannot complain.

If it was not warranted, then yes, this message was definitely aggressive and the sender was out of line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should call them at 3AM to ask what you can do to help.

Malicious compliance is always the answer!😈😈😈

[Anonymous]

if you are exempt working hours are imaginary.

[Anonymous]

Ignore, and put the group chat on DND.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's hard to imagine being upset about this given that I'm expected to be available from 8 am to 10 pm for a salaried job.

That is completely unreasonable. Completely.

It’s standard practice in my industry and others. We’re paid largely for our availability. Other industries are like this too. Of course, pay should be commensurate.

[Anonymous]

Everything is cyclical.

In about 2004 when I sent emails my boss told me I needed to call him to tell him I sent it or walk down the hall and tell him. He said email was for documenting not for action. LOL .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:i honestly think the only people bothered by this are going to be women 50+ in low and mid level jobs.

No one cares when emails are sent anymore. It's not 2012. You have to use common sense about your workplace to know if you need to be checking email after 'your' regular hours. But the sender does not need to save their emails until 9am tomorrow morning. Rather, you're permitted to ignore their email until you see it.

I’m a woman over 50 who is a law firm partner. I don’t mind the email going late—that’s normal. But following up with a text so quickly and in the evening is just a jerk move. Unless the meeting is the following day before noon, that’s no reason not to wait to let the person respond either later that evening or the next morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Completely ignore. No response.

+1

Unless you are on call for work these employers are getting egregious with the demands on our time and attention they don’t want to pay for

That's pretty much it. They've crept into our lives so much that they think they can make ridiculous demands of you while youre having dinner with your family. When I entered the workforce ('97) thus wasn't even a possibility. I can't recall ever being called at home on y landline to make sure I knew my boss had verbalized a reminder. It's bonkers.

I would remove myself from the group chat but that would probably cause too much drama so nowadays I just don't answer them. If the sender wants to wargame this out until it gets to the point where she is texting you 10 times in 2 hours to gibe her an answer her, let it happen. She'll only look insane.