"In case you aren't looking at your email"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the text just sent to a coworker from my work group chat. Along with a PICTURE of the email. At 19:30. Concerning a non emergency. It was a reminder about a routine event from our boss. And the sender closed with "please confirm receipt."

That's toxic as it gets, right? Trying hard not to be gaslight by kids 20 years younger than me.

How is that gaslighting? Please explain it to me like I'm five.

It's a lot of things. Rude, obnoxious, passive-aggressive. But, it's not "gaslighting." Gaslighting would be trying to persuade you not to believe your own eyes.

I think she's saying that her younger colleagues do not believe it to be passive aggressive and are trying to convince her as such. Which, no, is not really gaslighting, but we got the point.

The only thing more annoying than people who use "gaslighting" in correctly are people who have a coronary every time gaslit is used incorrectly.

Let me guess: You're one of these dipshits who says "nonplussed" to mean "worked up" or "upset."

Stop murdering the English language. Gaslight has a specific meaning. This isn't it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That was the text just sent to a coworker from my work group chat. Along with a PICTURE of the email. At 19:30. Concerning a non emergency. It was a reminder about a routine event from our boss. And the sender closed with "please confirm receipt."

That's toxic as it gets, right? Trying hard not to be gaslight by kids 20 years younger than me.

How is that gaslighting? Please explain it to me like I'm five.

It's a lot of things. Rude, obnoxious, passive-aggressive. But, it's not "gaslighting." Gaslighting would be trying to persuade you not to believe your own eyes.

I think she's saying that her younger colleagues do not believe it to be passive aggressive and are trying to convince her as such. Which, no, is not really gaslighting, but we got the point.

The only thing more annoying than people who use "gaslighting" in correctly are people who have a coronary every time gaslit is used incorrectly.

Let me guess: You're one of these dipshits who says "nonplussed" to mean "worked up" or "upset."

Stop murdering the English language. Gaslight has a specific meaning. This isn't it.

No, nonplussed means that you're surprised so I don't use it to mean "worked up."

Someone using gaslight in a way that doesn't meet the psychiatric criteria is not "murdering the English language." Get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

Give it a thumbs up and move on with your life.

[Anonymous]

Ignore until the workday starts.

But let's please also discuss why you have a work group chat on your personal phone. My boss texts me only when he is asking for permission to call me (he is 70 and I appreciate that he does this). I have work friends, but we primarily text to discuss how much we hate someone during a meeting. I absolutely do not have a work group chat.

[Anonymous]

Why is it a big deal- you don’t have to respond, or you can check your email and confirm receipt or you can thumbs up. All of that takes less than a minute and is not as serious and toxic as you are trying to make it sound. Just because someone emails at 7:30 does not mean you need to act so put out. Maybe they had an appointment earlier and are making up hours later. There is a thing called mute you can use for texts and emails if after hours if it is so triggering.

[Anonymous]

Toxic? No. Uptight? Sure.

[Anonymous]

Karen, I'm generally not reading my email at 7pm at night, no. Please send me reminders during working hours. K thnx bye

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is it a big deal- you don’t have to respond, or you can check your email and confirm receipt or you can thumbs up. All of that takes less than a minute and is not as serious and toxic as you are trying to make it sound. Just because someone emails at 7:30 does not mean you need to act so put out. Maybe they had an appointment earlier and are making up hours later. There is a thing called mute you can use for texts and emails if after hours if it is so triggering.

They emailed and texted the group thread (not OP)

[Anonymous]

It's hard to imagine being upset about this given that I'm expected to be available from 8 am to 10 pm for a salaried job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hard to imagine being upset about this given that I'm expected to be available from 8 am to 10 pm for a salaried job.

That is completely unreasonable. Completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Completely ignore. No response.

+1

Also is this a group text chat on your personal phone numbers? That already sounds toxic.

[Anonymous]

Toxic? Definitely not. Not even close.

Unreasonable and passive aggressive? Yes.

[Anonymous]

OP i think you're overreacting.

I also think since covid, the work day is a lot more fluid for a lot of people. Especially younger people. Alot of my colleagues will come in and leave the office at random times during the workday to achieve their "in office" requirements while also avoiding commuter traffic. And it's more normal for people to take a midday walk if they're home, or go to yoga in the middle of the day and come back to the office. And it's more normal for moms and dads of young kids to take time 7-9am and 4-8pm to hang with their kids. Ten years ago, those were completely unacceptable. But the trade off of those being acceptable is that a lot of people are logging in from 6-7am and 7pm-1am in ways that they weren't 10 years ago. A lot of my colleagues still work normal hours in total, but are doing them from totally different times of the day -- and they're really happy about that flexibility. Like my colleague with 2 young kids under the age of 4 who is in LA but works with a lot of east coast people.... he loves getting up 5am his time (8am ET) and working for 3 hours, then hanging out with his kids for a few hours while he leisurely tends to work. Then 10am PT he drives to the office in 30 minutes. Stays for a few hours to login his mandatory in office time and leaves by 3:30pm PT (6:30pm ET), then goes home and hangs with the kids for a bit and then logs in for probably another 5 hours in his evening, after the ET people are all logged off. It ends up being a pretty standard work day for a well paid professional, and it looks like he's working all the time. But he swears he is not - he's just working at the times that work well for him and he loves avoiding traffic and spending a lot of time with his kids and wife. But i'm getting emails from him at all times of day, including a lot of 1am ET my time.

I use this as an example, but almost all my colleagues are working different hours than they used to. And I think we are years past the era of needing to tiptoe around it and apologize for sending after hours emails. No one necessarily expects responses at those hours. But they shouldn't have to apologize for it either. I think anyone under the age of 50 who has any flexibility in their job is benefiting from this right now, and is fine with it. And also knows not to read into after hours emails from their colleagues.

[Anonymous]

I need more context. Is this person your boss? Was the event at 9am? Have people been missing these events? Is there something really important about this event?

[Anonymous]

As toxic as it gets? No, not even anywhere close to as toxic as it gets. You sound incredibly sensitive.