Gender Balance: Do Girls need to apply to competitive schools ED?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA favors girls over boys.

No, they don’t. They just do not favor boys as much as some other schools. They still favor boys. The male applicant pool is that much weaker…

Essay coach here. I've seen some private school ORM boy applications that get into T10 that would shock you. The comparable ORM girl application is off the charts. Non stem majors.

Is stem major only Engineering, or are you referring to sciences - environmental, biology, physics, etc

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA favors girls over boys.

No, they don’t. They just do not favor boys as much as some other schools. They still favor boys. The male applicant pool is that much weaker…

Essay coach here. I've seen some private school ORM boy applications that get into T10 that would shock you. The comparable ORM girl application is off the charts. Non stem majors.

Is stem major only Engineering, or are you referring to sciences - environmental, biology, physics, etc

STEM includes all sciences and premed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what is the profile of a girl who gets into these schools in RD?

Full pay; underrepresented majors; legacy + donor; other institutional priorities.

Test Submitted ORM Female:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1qu8izh/loser_mushroom_lover_bags_the_artsy_ivy/
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1lt14rm/got_in_hypsm_lacs_and_special_programs/
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1l4tg44/asian_w_1440_sat_bags_yale/
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1k2o202/normal_girlie_does_all_of_her_applications_in_one/

Test Optional ORM Female:
https://www.reddit.com/r/collegeresults/comments/1qudj9n/ea_results_of_an_asian_female_interested_in/

So, what is the takeaway?

[Anonymous]

IS there anything else published about the higher standards for female applicants in RD?

[Anonymous]

I’m interested in this too.
What do girls in non-Stem and non-business have to do to get in during RD?

[Anonymous]

I am looking at the IG pages now differently. Seeing how boys get in early to the top private T20s.

Wow. Its very noticeable.

[Anonymous]

Not data, but I believe him because I trust that he has analyzed significant, recent, and high quality data.

When Jeff Selingo did a webinar for Deerfield parents last year, he acknowledged that college admissions are now harder for girls. He said this gives him no pleasure, as he has daughters, but wanted to acknowledge the situation. He didn’t dwell on this, but I no longer doubt it to be true. More girls than boys get admitted, but high quality male applicants are not as common.

I don’t have time to watch the entire thing to find the time stamp, but I believe the video is the third one down if anyone wishes to confirm this. And thanks to the school for making some of their college advising info a public resource.

https://deerfield.edu/students/college-advising/informative-videos

As for strategies to counter this? I am at a loss. When we needed to pave a path for young women 50 years ago, they were keen and qualified. The bar did not need to be lowered to admit them.

The ED advantage is so widely known, I don’t think that it will benefit girls or boys more. The schools know the RD pool will be filled with endlessly qualified students. The only advantage in ED now lies with the institutions themselves, and their never ending quest for high yield. It is frustrating.

[Anonymous]

It's simple math. All the spots are available at ED (except for the ones promised to athletes with "full coach support"). If your daughter is not a supported athlete, you need to make sure she applies smartly to ED and ED2 if necessary rather than face longer odds in RD. Modern high school is more oriented towards female success (according to studies on focus, sitting still, multi-tasking, organization and brain development puberty timelines) so girls are better set up to be earlier at getting their apps prepared for an early cycle.

In RD, boys may be more in demand to shape the class when the strong girls have already claimed so many spots in ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am looking at the IG pages now differently. Seeing how boys get in early to the top private T20s.

Wow. Its very noticeable.

+1 startling once you see it and start counting. take out all the public flagships and compare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA favors girls over boys.

LOTS of schools do. Or rather, they look at the stats and generally speaking choose girls over boys. It is so silly to think that just because there is an imbalance boys should or will have an easier time. Many schools are not prioritizing gender balance and why should they. I am the mother of three boys but it would be naive and absurd to hope that my sons be given preference over stronger female peers.

+100 from parent of boy. From what I’ve seen, girls in general are more organized and focused during the early high school years and boys are having to play catch-up when it’s time for college applications. It’s no wonder that the female applicant pool is stronger at many schools.

+1

Our private school's college decisions insta page is all early decision/EAs right now and it's overwhelmingly a sea of female students who got in ED! It's very stark, ratio of roughly 25 girls to 5 guys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am looking at the IG pages now differently. Seeing how boys get in early to the top private T20s.

Wow. Its very noticeable.

+1 startling once you see it and start counting. take out all the public flagships and compare.

Are you saying more boys are in getting in top privates?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA favors girls over boys.

LOTS of schools do. Or rather, they look at the stats and generally speaking choose girls over boys. It is so silly to think that just because there is an imbalance boys should or will have an easier time. Many schools are not prioritizing gender balance and why should they. I am the mother of three boys but it would be naive and absurd to hope that my sons be given preference over stronger female peers.

+100 from parent of boy. From what I’ve seen, girls in general are more organized and focused during the early high school years and boys are having to play catch-up when it’s time for college applications. It’s no wonder that the female applicant pool is stronger at many schools.

+1

Our private school's college decisions insta page is all early decision/EAs right now and it's overwhelmingly a sea of female students who got in ED! It's very stark, ratio of roughly 25 girls to 5 guys.

Not seeing that at our private school. Seeing pretty even numbers or more boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA favors girls over boys.

LOTS of schools do. Or rather, they look at the stats and generally speaking choose girls over boys. It is so silly to think that just because there is an imbalance boys should or will have an easier time. Many schools are not prioritizing gender balance and why should they. I am the mother of three boys but it would be naive and absurd to hope that my sons be given preference over stronger female peers.

+100 from parent of boy. From what I’ve seen, girls in general are more organized and focused during the early high school years and boys are having to play catch-up when it’s time for college applications. It’s no wonder that the female applicant pool is stronger at many schools.

+1

Our private school's college decisions insta page is all early decision/EAs right now and it's overwhelmingly a sea of female students who got in ED! It's very stark, ratio of roughly 25 girls to 5 guys.

Not seeing that at our private school. Seeing pretty even numbers or more boys.

Same. All boys at privates.
Girls at UMichigan, UVA, UNC, etc.

Doubt it changes in RD? Unless hooked?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA favors girls over boys.

LOTS of schools do. Or rather, they look at the stats and generally speaking choose girls over boys. It is so silly to think that just because there is an imbalance boys should or will have an easier time. Many schools are not prioritizing gender balance and why should they. I am the mother of three boys but it would be naive and absurd to hope that my sons be given preference over stronger female peers.

+100 from parent of boy. From what I’ve seen, girls in general are more organized and focused during the early high school years and boys are having to play catch-up when it’s time for college applications. It’s no wonder that the female applicant pool is stronger at many schools.

+1

Our private school's college decisions insta page is all early decision/EAs right now and it's overwhelmingly a sea of female students who got in ED! It's very stark, ratio of roughly 25 girls to 5 guys.

Not seeing that at our private school. Seeing pretty even numbers or more boys.

Same. All boys at privates.
Girls at UMichigan, UVA, UNC, etc.

Doubt it changes in RD? Unless hooked?

Are the boys stronger academically in your school? Our girls are stronger but boys are getting the spots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA favors girls over boys.

LOTS of schools do. Or rather, they look at the stats and generally speaking choose girls over boys. It is so silly to think that just because there is an imbalance boys should or will have an easier time. Many schools are not prioritizing gender balance and why should they. I am the mother of three boys but it would be naive and absurd to hope that my sons be given preference over stronger female peers.

+100 from parent of boy. From what I’ve seen, girls in general are more organized and focused during the early high school years and boys are having to play catch-up when it’s time for college applications. It’s no wonder that the female applicant pool is stronger at many schools.

+1

Our private school's college decisions insta page is all early decision/EAs right now and it's overwhelmingly a sea of female students who got in ED! It's very stark, ratio of roughly 25 girls to 5 guys.

Not seeing that at our private school. Seeing pretty even numbers or more boys.

Same. All boys at privates.
Girls at UMichigan, UVA, UNC, etc.

Doubt it changes in RD? Unless hooked?

Are the boys stronger academically in your school? Our girls are stronger but boys are getting the spots.

Same here. It's kind of disturbing, not going to lie.