Gender Balance: Do Girls need to apply to competitive schools ED?

[Anonymous]

Given that schools are getting lopsided towards female, is it smart for those of us with DDs to have them apply ED/ED2 and EA so they can get in before the class is female-dominated and they are scrounging for strong males in the final shaping of RD class?

Is ED more of a need for female students vs male students?

Which colleges balance for gender or may want to in future?

[Anonymous]

Waitlist movement at top20s last year was definitely heavily male.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Given that schools are getting lopsided towards female, is it smart for those of us with DDs to have them apply ED/ED2 and EA so they can get in before the class is female-dominated and they are scrounging for strong males in the final shaping of RD class?

Is ED more of a need for female students vs male students?

Which colleges balance for gender or may want to in future?

Everyone - male or female - needs to apply ED/ED2/EA somewhere. ED is more of a need for a student with no hooks. All of the colleges that are roughly 50:50, including all Ivy+ schools, balance for gender. The ones that don't show more female students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waitlist movement at top20s last year was definitely heavily male.

Yes I don’t know one girl who was called snd know dozens of boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlist movement at top20s last year was definitely heavily male.

Yes I don’t know one girl who was called snd know dozens of boys.

But wasn't that just a last year thing? How do we know that will happen again this year? I thought that was just a random WL spike due to Trump being chaotic on foreign visas? Or do you think it's a bellwether for how classes will get shaped in future?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlist movement at top20s last year was definitely heavily male.

Yes I don’t know one girl who was called snd know dozens of boys.

But wasn't that just a last year thing? How do we know that will happen again this year? I thought that was just a random WL spike due to Trump being chaotic on foreign visas? Or do you think it's a bellwether for how classes will get shaped in future?

No. Not a last year thing. This has been the reality for several cycles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlist movement at top20s last year was definitely heavily male.

Yes I don’t know one girl who was called snd know dozens of boys.

But wasn't that just a last year thing? How do we know that will happen again this year? I thought that was just a random WL spike due to Trump being chaotic on foreign visas? Or do you think it's a bellwether for how classes will get shaped in future?

WL movements spiked, but the fact that it was all boys was not new. They usually are constantly looking for boys to balance/shape the class with WLs. Ask any college counselor.

Boys generally do better in T25 RD at our private too. Girls are usually hooked or extraordinarily spiky (and awards).

It would be good to see some RD data on that. I wonder if Tineo can do some analysis on that.

[Anonymous]

Men applying to Brown have a 39% better chance of getting admitted than women; at the university of Chicago that advantage is 30%.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/gender-inequity-in-selective-college-admissions/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men applying to Brown have a 39% better chance of getting admitted than women; at the university of Chicago that advantage is 30%.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/gender-inequity-in-selective-college-admissions/

Stanford or Princeton REA if a girl…
or
Cornell or Northwestern ED.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men applying to Brown have a 39% better chance of getting admitted than women; at the university of Chicago that advantage is 30%.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/gender-inequity-in-selective-college-admissions/

Stanford or Princeton REA if a girl…
or
Cornell or Northwestern ED.

Such a small advantage in that chart tho

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waitlist movement at top20s last year was definitely heavily male.

Yes I don’t know one girl who was called snd know dozens of boys.

But wasn't that just a last year thing? How do we know that will happen again this year? I thought that was just a random WL spike due to Trump being chaotic on foreign visas? Or do you think it's a bellwether for how classes will get shaped in future?

Waitlists are how schools fill their Institutional Priorities. They have a pool of a wide variety of students at their disposal; they can use that pool to shore up whatever slots they couldn't fill in the ED/RD round. From a gender perspective, in most cases, they have all the high-caliber girls they need already, so WLs are how they fill out the guys.

That doesn't really answer the "should girls apply ED", though. I think the logic holds true for all students: If the school is your #1 pick, and the NPC says you can afford to go there, then ED. If either of those aren't true, don't ED.

[Anonymous]

My high achieving girl made sure she had a very balanced list, and showed interest in several ways. It really helped, she believes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My high achieving girl made sure she had a very balanced list, and showed interest in several ways. It really helped, she believes.

What does showed interest in several ways mean specifically?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My high achieving girl made sure she had a very balanced list, and showed interest in several ways. It really helped, she believes.

Tours?
Interview?
Chat with current students?
Essays?

[Anonymous]

Every school needs to offer ED. It makes me so mad when my kids' first choice schools only have EA - how are they supposed to express that it's their first choice?