Grace Hopper Center Updates

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AT will be fine.

The bigger question is if the Langston program will be ok since it’s much more vulnerable.

Exactly. Is it just one person who's always anti AT b/c of this or that weird reason? It's a great program. The girls who go thrive there and don't seem to be bothered by the 21 yr old people.

[Anonymous]

I’m confused. The Langston program is filled with kids who are bullied but also adult men who are bullies and teens with children?

Who are we protecting from whom?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

I don't think there's a link for it. You don't publicly apply like the lottery. APS places the students who need it into it. It appears to be recent arrivals with high language needs. It shows up in the budget so if you're that interested you can find it there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

No. Do your own research. I found it using the googler.

I did google it. PP did too. Clearly you know the program and the specific terms to search for, but we dont. Or you imagined it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

I don't think there's a link for it. You don't publicly apply like the lottery. APS places the students who need it into it. It appears to be recent arrivals with high language needs. It shows up in the budget so if you're that interested you can find it there.

I didn't know about it until today. In the APS doc it seems to be almost exclusively ESL Spanish-speaking students. I think it's great that we are meeting of these kids' needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

I don't think there's a link for it. You don't publicly apply like the lottery. APS places the students who need it into it. It appears to be recent arrivals with high language needs. It shows up in the budget so if you're that interested you can find it there.

Hiding things in the budget is very sus.

So there is a hidden undocumented backdoor into HBW, not a separate ELL program at the Heights? How do they end up with 21 year olds in such a niche program? I cant believe it happens nearly as often as Langston program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. The Langston program is filled with kids who are bullied but also adult men who are bullies and teens with children?

Who are we protecting from whom?

Arlington Tech parents don’t want any of this around their own kids. They don’t care about others.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

I don't think there's a link for it. You don't publicly apply like the lottery. APS places the students who need it into it. It appears to be recent arrivals with high language needs. It shows up in the budget so if you're that interested you can find it there.

Hiding things in the budget is very sus.

So there is a hidden undocumented backdoor into HBW, not a separate ELL program at the Heights? How do they end up with 21 year olds in such a niche program? I cant believe it happens nearly as often as Langston program.

Opportunity hoarder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. The Langston program is filled with kids who are bullied but also adult men who are bullies and teens with children?

Who are we protecting from whom?

Arlington Tech parents don’t want any of this around their own kids. They don’t care about others.

Not true.

I’m an AT parent and I’m fine with this. Our kids will be fine.

Are the Langston families ok with it?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

I don't think there's a link for it. You don't publicly apply like the lottery. APS places the students who need it into it. It appears to be recent arrivals with high language needs. It shows up in the budget so if you're that interested you can find it there.

Hiding things in the budget is very sus.

So there is a hidden undocumented backdoor into HBW, not a separate ELL program at the Heights? How do they end up with 21 year olds in such a niche program? I cant believe it happens nearly as often as Langston program.

Opportunity hoarder.

Wanting programs out in the open with clear processes is hoarding opportunities?

But back to original question about 21 year olds at HBW. It sounds like its for ELL, and is a niche slice of the school, versus the core mission of Langston. I would suspect there may have been a coupe of 19 year olds over the last decade, but I guess without documentation on eligibility its hard to know how the ELL program functions. To be 21, they would enter their freshman year AS ADULTS at 18. Really? That is happening at HBW?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. The Langston program is filled with kids who are bullied but also adult men who are bullies and teens with children?

Who are we protecting from whom?

Arlington Tech parents don’t want any of this around their own kids. They don’t care about others.

Not true.

I’m an AT parent and I’m fine with this. Our kids will be fine.

Are the Langston families ok with it?

Same same. And nothing is hidden in the budget because it's a transparency document. Man this one poster could use another brain cell.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is APS hobbling AT out the gate by colocating with students with absentees issues, criminal records, drug use and court mandated treatment, and students up to the age of 21?

My 7th grade DD is a nerdy science loving kid, but this mixed environment makes it a non starter for us.

HB has been colocated with an English Language Learner program with students up to age 21 for many years, meaning you have 11 year olds in the same building as 20 year olds. Seems to work out ok.

Always heard about Stratford program. What ELL program is colocated at the Heights?

My kid is at HB and it looks like it's just the support system in place for the kids who need those services and win the lottery but I'm not positive. BTW, my kid loves having the Shriver students co-located.

No that is not correct. There are students in a specific ELL program at HB and they are up to age 21 (at least). They do not get in through the regular lottery.

Why cant you post a link about this program?

I don't think there's a link for it. You don't publicly apply like the lottery. APS places the students who need it into it. It appears to be recent arrivals with high language needs. It shows up in the budget so if you're that interested you can find it there.

Hiding things in the budget is very sus.

So there is a hidden undocumented backdoor into HBW, not a separate ELL program at the Heights? How do they end up with 21 year olds in such a niche program? I cant believe it happens nearly as often as Langston program.

Opportunity hoarder.

Wanting programs out in the open with clear processes is hoarding opportunities?

But back to original question about 21 year olds at HBW. It sounds like its for ELL, and is a niche slice of the school, versus the core mission of Langston. I would suspect there may have been a coupe of 19 year olds over the last decade, but I guess without documentation on eligibility its hard to know how the ELL program functions. To be 21, they would enter their freshman year AS ADULTS at 18. Really? That is happening at HBW?

Some red shirted kids graduate at 20.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. The Langston program is filled with kids who are bullied but also adult men who are bullies and teens with children?

Who are we protecting from whom?

Arlington Tech parents don’t want any of this around their own kids. They don’t care about others.

It’s not easy to get that type of alternative placement, they don’t just hand them out. The students who are at Langston need to be there and for some of them it might be a safety issue that could impact a larger community but is well controlled while there. I have an eighth grader who applied to Arlington Tech. It does not seem like this plan is well thought out and I’m not sure I want to send them in the first year of an experimental program in a new building.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m confused. The Langston program is filled with kids who are bullied but also adult men who are bullies and teens with children?

Who are we protecting from whom?

Arlington Tech parents don’t want any of this around their own kids. They don’t care about others.

It’s not easy to get that type of alternative placement, they don’t just hand them out. The students who are at Langston need to be there and for some of them it might be a safety issue that could impact a larger community but is well controlled while there. I have an eighth grader who applied to Arlington Tech. It does not seem like this plan is well thought out and I’m not sure I want to send them in the first year of an experimental program in a new building.

I have a kid at AT and it's not an experimental program but rather one being actively built. Currently, there are kids, probably some who are 21, who are there. But we had 21 yr olds at my high school. Very few. Here's the thing. The CTE kids stay to themselves. The teen moms stay to themselves and the AT kids are frankly, academically oriented in STEM. 1/2 of them are in robotics club! It's going to have great facilities and hosts a wonderful group of committed teachers. I hope your kid gets inand that they love it. If you must worry about the Langston people, worry that they are not getting their "choice" school.