Why aren't we pushing back against dynamic pricing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dynamic pricing that's popular with hotels etc is coming to a service near you. In a few years, you won't see how much items cost anymore. The price will be determined in real time and based on your profile. Thanks to AI and your extensive digital footprint corporations will have access to a vast amount of data to determine how much to charge you. You will find it everywhere, clothing, food, car etc...

How did we get here? Where is the pushback?

And when you add health care cost on top of everything, is the goal to make us to spend in perpetuity and having nothing saved.

If you think you have enough saved, under dynamic pricing you will simply overpay.

Incognito mode/VPNs/payment methods that hide your identity (crypto)

And just going to a store that has fixed prices for everyone if it gets that bad.

I don’t think personalized dynamic pricing is going to work too well if that’s what you’re talking about. Assuming there is competition, you aren’t going to be able to charge a rich person $50 for a hamburger and a poor person $10 for the same burger. That’s just not going to work

The waiter hands you one menu, another person a different one. But I just read an article that said the uber wealthy are avoiding us poors as much as possible - separate entrances at restaurants, private rooms, etc.

[Anonymous]

We have a summer house near cape Charles Virginia and have noticed that grocery prices are less there and have purchased several items from the Walmart in Accomac VA because the prices are substantially less. Start to “joke” about bringing a cooler and stocking up in groceries when we visit except that I am not sure we are joking.

[Anonymous]

This is a part of the agenda for liberals and progressives. They really want the wealthy to contribute more. They often claim that the rich don’t pay their fair share and want to squeeze them for all they’re worth.

Rather than implementing a flat tax, they advocated for a progressive tax system. The more money you have, the higher your tax rate. They love this concept so much that they are even applying it to pricing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a part of the agenda for liberals and progressives. They really want the wealthy to contribute more. They often claim that the rich don’t pay their fair share and want to squeeze them for all they’re worth.

Rather than implementing a flat tax, they advocated for a progressive tax system. The more money you have, the higher your tax rate. They love this concept so much that they are even applying it to pricing.

Do you think a flat tax rate can work in a country that spends like a drunk sailor? Just curious. Have you seen our defense budget for example? Where is the money going to come from if you have a flat tax rate. Enlighten me please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a part of the agenda for liberals and progressives. They really want the wealthy to contribute more. They often claim that the rich don’t pay their fair share and want to squeeze them for all they’re worth.

Rather than implementing a flat tax, they advocated for a progressive tax system. The more money you have, the higher your tax rate. They love this concept so much that they are even applying it to pricing.

We want the absurdly rich to contribute more in taxes that benefit everyone, you ding dong, not to contribute more to private companies like airlines and grocery stores via higher prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dynamic pricing that's popular with hotels etc is coming to a service near you. In a few years, you won't see how much items cost anymore. The price will be determined in real time and based on your profile. Thanks to AI and your extensive digital footprint corporations will have access to a vast amount of data to determine how much to charge you. You will find it everywhere, clothing, food, car etc...

How did we get here? Where is the pushback?

And when you add health care cost on top of everything, is the goal to make us to spend in perpetuity and having nothing saved.

If you think you have enough saved, under dynamic pricing you will simply overpay.

Incognito mode/VPNs/payment methods that hide your identity (crypto)

And just going to a store that has fixed prices for everyone if it gets that bad.

I don’t think personalized dynamic pricing is going to work too well if that’s what you’re talking about. Assuming there is competition, you aren’t going to be able to charge a rich person $50 for a hamburger and a poor person $10 for the same burger. That’s just not going to work

The waiter hands you one menu, another person a different one. But I just read an article that said the uber wealthy are avoiding us poors as much as possible - separate entrances at restaurants, private rooms, etc.

Any restaurant that tries charging 2 people differently based on their income will go out of business very quickly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dynamic pricing that's popular with hotels etc is coming to a service near you. In a few years, you won't see how much items cost anymore. The price will be determined in real time and based on your profile. Thanks to AI and your extensive digital footprint corporations will have access to a vast amount of data to determine how much to charge you. You will find it everywhere, clothing, food, car etc...

How did we get here? Where is the pushback?

And when you add health care cost on top of everything, is the goal to make us to spend in perpetuity and having nothing saved.

If you think you have enough saved, under dynamic pricing you will simply overpay.

Incognito mode/VPNs/payment methods that hide your identity (crypto)

And just going to a store that has fixed prices for everyone if it gets that bad.

I don’t think personalized dynamic pricing is going to work too well if that’s what you’re talking about. Assuming there is competition, you aren’t going to be able to charge a rich person $50 for a hamburger and a poor person $10 for the same burger. That’s just not going to work

The waiter hands you one menu, another person a different one. But I just read an article that said the uber wealthy are avoiding us poors as much as possible - separate entrances at restaurants, private rooms, etc.

Any restaurant that tries charging 2 people differently based on their income will go out of business very quickly

Would they run a credit check to secure a reservation? Otherwise everyone will just look ratchet for a cheaper dinner.

[Anonymous]

I don't have a problem with dynamic pricing. If I want the most popular version of something, or if I want to do something during peak hours, I pay more. If I'm willing to buy the lime green instead of the gray version, or go during off-peak hours, I'll enjoy the discount. If it incentives people to move from peak hours to less-busy hours, that's good for everyone - them (they pay less), the business (balances their workload), and the people paying for peak hours (it's not as busy as it would have been).

Personalized pricing is different. There's already some of that - try taking a BMW to a shop for the same service as a Honda, and see which costs more. I would definitely have a problem with groceries or restaurants changing prices based on what they think I can pay, but I can't even think of how that would work, so I'm not too worried about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sometimes you can get around this by using a VPN in West Virginia or Mississippi to order the tickets or book a flight.

Interesting. Out of habit, I shop and ultimately buy airline tix using my DoD work computer during breaks. I’ve never noticed these pricing shenanigans while at DoD but I have strongly suspected they’re happening when I book travel at home on my own laptop

Do you think DoD security apparatus impedes Google Flights and similar sites?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dynamic pricing that's popular with hotels etc is coming to a service near you. In a few years, you won't see how much items cost anymore. The price will be determined in real time and based on your profile. Thanks to AI and your extensive digital footprint corporations will have access to a vast amount of data to determine how much to charge you. You will find it everywhere, clothing, food, car etc...

How did we get here? Where is the pushback?

And when you add health care cost on top of everything, is the goal to make us to spend in perpetuity and having nothing saved.

If you think you have enough saved, under dynamic pricing you will simply overpay.

This is one of the reasons i use a VPN for everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Economy tickets will disappear as well. In a few years, airlines will only seel you premium tickets.

Blame your government. They don't have your interest in mind

This is a definite. United just unveiled a new plane 50% is Polaris, i.e., first class.

i was just at my moms tonight and she is very wealthy and travels a lot, but is notoriously cheap. She is spending June and Jukybin France (what? way to hit but whatever) and has declared this is her last EU trip because plane tickets are too expensive and she feels like a sucker buying them. I wonder if these airlines will hit a wall or if most people just don’t care?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with dynamic pricing. If I want the most popular version of something, or if I want to do something during peak hours, I pay more. If I'm willing to buy the lime green instead of the gray version, or go during off-peak hours, I'll enjoy the discount. If it incentives people to move from peak hours to less-busy hours, that's good for everyone - them (they pay less), the business (balances their workload), and the people paying for peak hours (it's not as busy as it would have been).

Personalized pricing is different. There's already some of that - try taking a BMW to a shop for the same service as a Honda, and see which costs more. I would definitely have a problem with groceries or restaurants changing prices based on what they think I can pay, but I can't even think of how that would work, so I'm not too worried about it.

Sigh this analogy is wrong. The question is—if you were charged more than another shopper for the exact same product, would you be OK with that? Because that’s what Instacart was doing. It was charging two different people completely different prices for the same products at the same time on their website. In the same location. The goal was to test how much consumers were willing to pay.

So many critical thinking fails.

This is why corporations and governments away with swindling us endlessly. Gullible fools.

[Anonymous]

So how does this work? If I'm getting a higher priced airline ticket because I log in on my laptop, could I just go to the local library and use their computers to buy a ticket? Or even use a different computer at work? Sorry if this is a dumb question - just trying to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Economy tickets will disappear as well. In a few years, airlines will only seel you premium tickets.

Blame your government. They don't have your interest in mind

LOL, what? The government should guarantee cheap airline tickets? Get out of here with that nonsense. Look at all the Spirit and Frontier videos. No one wants to deal with that chaos. Spirit is literally heading toward bankruptcy, which tells you everything you need to know about how well that model works.

Premium service is better for airlines anyway. Higher margins, fewer problems, and a much better customer experience overall. They also do not have to constantly deal with aggressive passengers, fights, and nonstop issues that seem to come with ultra low cost carriers.

I am completely fine with bringing back planes that are all business class or higher. There are already airlines doing this. La Compagnie is a great example. They operate entirely business class.

Travel is great, but any flight longer than four hours should realistically be business class. If planes were configured entirely with business class seats, prices would be more reasonable for people already paying business fares, and you would not be competing for limited space or upgrades. It would be a better experience for passengers and a better business model for airlines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a part of the agenda for liberals and progressives. They really want the wealthy to contribute more. They often claim that the rich don’t pay their fair share and want to squeeze them for all they’re worth.

Rather than implementing a flat tax, they advocated for a progressive tax system. The more money you have, the higher your tax rate. They love this concept so much that they are even applying it to pricing.

We want the absurdly rich to contribute more in taxes that benefit everyone, you ding dong, not to contribute more to private companies like airlines and grocery stores via higher prices.

Who is we? Not me. I am all for rewarding people who are contributing, creating jobs, and driving the economy forward. I do not support policies that punish success. Making it easier and more attractive to earn more is how you motivate people. Coddling poverty and laziness does the opposite.