Why aren't we pushing back against dynamic pricing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isnt there restaurant(s) doing this now? Items cost more at certain times? I feel like I heard about this but can't recall.

I recently watched a video about it happening when you order groceries online. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osxr7xSxsGo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I push back by not making the purchase.

Me too. Hub airport airline losing my business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know how we got here: a hyper capitalist society that values profits over everything, turns a blind eye to the ways technology is used to eliminate privacy and overcome consumer protections, and the demonizing of any movement designed to protect workers or consumers over the interests of business owners/capitalists.

Europe illustrates what pushback looks like: consumer protections with teeth, real suspicion of tech companies who collect and sell consumer data, structural changes to create a voice for workers and consumers (like forcing corporate boards to reserve seats for worker reps or consumer advocates, or creating legal causes of action against tech companies for collecting and selling user data).

But Europeans, culturally, value things like livability and workers rights. Some Americans value these things but many Americans are brainwashed by TV and social media into viewing those priorities with suspicion.

“Europe illustrates what pushback looks like,” lol. You mean the place where engineers make $30,000 a year and people in their 40s still live with their parents?

[Anonymous]

Hotels have maximum list prices, then always discount it. Stores can always do that. Eggs are listed at $10, but for you, discounted to $3.99. And for you, $2.97.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes you can get around this by using a VPN in West Virginia or Mississippi to order the tickets or book a flight.

[Anonymous]

Haha, if their models are good, I’ll welcome it! It should show that I am an extreme tightwad and won’t open my wallet unless I get a significant discount. Oh, and they should stop showing me ads; I mostly buy used anyway.

I guess I push back by existing.

[Anonymous]

I think using a VPN is the only way right now. I guess you could take time to fool the algorithm, but who has time to do that.

I agree it's a horrible practice.

[Anonymous]

I'm pp and to be fair, it may already be too late. I recall reading this in 2012. They already know so much about each of us.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know how we got here: a hyper capitalist society that values profits over everything, turns a blind eye to the ways technology is used to eliminate privacy and overcome consumer protections, and the demonizing of any movement designed to protect workers or consumers over the interests of business owners/capitalists.

Europe illustrates what pushback looks like: consumer protections with teeth, real suspicion of tech companies who collect and sell consumer data, structural changes to create a voice for workers and consumers (like forcing corporate boards to reserve seats for worker reps or consumer advocates, or creating legal causes of action against tech companies for collecting and selling user data).

But Europeans, culturally, value things like livability and workers rights. Some Americans value these things but many Americans are brainwashed by TV and social media into viewing those priorities with suspicion.

Europe actually employs dynamic pricing for many things…you just may view it differently because it’s progressive.

As an example, there was a Nokia founder who was ticketed for speeding and had to pay a 275,000 Euro ticket because he was a billionaire, while an everyday person would have received a 50 Euro ticket for the exact same violation.

I don't think US dynamic pricing will affect billionaires. That's still the European model that pp mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Can't you get around this by using an incognito browsing window?

Mostly, yes. Airlines have been doing this for ages. Two people sitting next to each other on the same plane often pay wildly different prices for their tickets.

I'm not particularly against any of this, as long as there are easy ways to use the system to my advantage.

[Anonymous]

Im fighting it by buying substantially less, and rarely traveling.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes you can get around this by using a VPN in West Virginia or Mississippi to order the tickets or book a flight.

Walk me through exactly how I would do this
Could I use a travel agent in another part of the country and would that help me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dynamic pricing that's popular with hotels etc is coming to a service near you. In a few years, you won't see how much items cost anymore. The price will be determined in real time and based on your profile. Thanks to AI and your extensive digital footprint corporations will have access to a vast amount of data to determine how much to charge you. You will find it everywhere, clothing, food, car etc...

How did we get here? Where is the pushback?

And when you add health care cost on top of everything, is the goal to make us to spend in perpetuity and having nothing saved.

If you think you have enough saved, under dynamic pricing you will simply overpay.

Incognito mode/VPNs/payment methods that hide your identity (crypto)

And just going to a store that has fixed prices for everyone if it gets that bad.

I don’t think personalized dynamic pricing is going to work too well if that’s what you’re talking about. Assuming there is competition, you aren’t going to be able to charge a rich person $50 for a hamburger and a poor person $10 for the same burger. That’s just not going to work

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Sometimes you can get around this by using a VPN in West Virginia or Mississippi to order the tickets or book a flight.

Walk me through exactly how I would do this
Could I use a travel agent in another part of the country and would that help me?

You would pay for a private VPN that has servers in poor states or countries then you connect to it before checking prices. Might also need to use an privacy based browser and a payment method that doesn't use your wealthy zipcode.

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Anonymous wrote:Economy tickets will disappear as well. In a few years, airlines will only seel you premium tickets.

Blame your government. They don't have your interest in mind

This is a definite. United just unveiled a new plane 50% is Polaris, i.e., first class.