Are the Blair and RMIB magnet programs even any good?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I get disproportionate number of interns from these programs where I work (STEM related). They are extremely talented.

I only hire my HS interns (more than 20) from Blair and TJ. They are all extremely talented and strong self-driven. I’ll not hire any more in the future from Blair once the regional model starts.

Well that's pretty obnoxious. You won't even consider a student who might be a good fit? What about now -- you won't consider a student who goes to their home school and takes a heavy load of AP STEM courses? That says a lot about you.

If you have ever supervised a HS intern, you’ll know it’s a service rather than a normal working relationship. You pay them but they don’t know a tiny bit about your research, but your time is also very limited. You won’t have time to teach them from scratch or meet them on a daily basis. What you can do is handing them a bunch of references, sample codes, lab materials, and expert them to start training themselves like a graduate student. That’s way way beyond a straight-A transcript with a bunch of AP courses. The reason I trust Blair and TJ is I know kids can survive there with a good resume can learn whatever they are requested to learn with minimal instruction.

That's pretty terrible when not all smart kids have the same opportunities at their schools.

Well, think about this scenario. You have a supplier who had supplied you the best quality parts for the past two decades. Now they tell you they had replicated their production line 6X with barely any cost increment, you will think twice if you still want to buy their products, or even if you want, you don't know which production line to use, right? It's the same situation here. MIT accepted so many Blair SMCS students every year not simply because they all have stellar resume (of course they do). For a district that GPA is so diluted, how do MIT decide to accept this student with 4.0 UWGPA and not that student with 4.0 UWGPA? Then think about college internship. For facebook for example, their internship application has a pull-down menu to indicate which college you are from. The options only have 4 or so colleges that are famous with their CS programs, and the 5th option is "others". You see the difference? That's the so-called feeder school. Now MCPS is tearing down the feeder programs, and it's the smart and hard-working students who are biting the consequences.

Some of these kids aren't the best and brighest as they are playing catch up in math and other areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And also, from my personal experience, my DC did zero preparation for PSAT test, qualified for NMSF. They did one mock test for preparing SAT (using CB provided mock test set), and got 1590 with one try. They later surfed through a top college with straight-A and felt course workload was less compared to their HS years. It proves how solid foundation that the SMCS program built for my DC.

Your kid was going to do well no matter what!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I get disproportionate number of interns from these programs where I work (STEM related). They are extremely talented.

I only hire my HS interns (more than 20) from Blair and TJ. They are all extremely talented and strong self-driven. I’ll not hire any more in the future from Blair once the regional model starts.

Well that's pretty obnoxious. You won't even consider a student who might be a good fit? What about now -- you won't consider a student who goes to their home school and takes a heavy load of AP STEM courses? That says a lot about you.

If you have ever supervised a HS intern, you’ll know it’s a service rather than a normal working relationship. You pay them but they don’t know a tiny bit about your research, but your time is also very limited. You won’t have time to teach them from scratch or meet them on a daily basis. What you can do is handing them a bunch of references, sample codes, lab materials, and expert them to start training themselves like a graduate student. That’s way way beyond a straight-A transcript with a bunch of AP courses. The reason I trust Blair and TJ is I know kids can survive there with a good resume can learn whatever they are requested to learn with minimal instruction.

Aside from your trashiness, Blair admits kids from test scores and a very short essay, which is very easy for you duplicate. And TJ already switched to a de-merited admission process years ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here are this years numbers for RMIB I think they look really promising I’m not sure why we’re citing data from 2023 in here

The Mean SAT scores for the RMIB Class of 2025: 1468
• Evidence Based Reading and Writing: 740 Mathematics 738 Total - 1468
• National Merit Scholarship Competition Finalists - Class of 2025 - 23

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/85ddf5c7e43e4729af561245c7f8fce8/5482_26_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing

This makes me question the math skills these kids have. Or at least their parents.

DC said they don't know anyone who scored less than a 1500, but I guess the kids that do wouldn't talk about it. Also, lots of kids take the ACT now. DC scored a 36, one sitting, with prep consisting of 2 practice tests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here are this years numbers for RMIB I think they look really promising I’m not sure why we’re citing data from 2023 in here

The Mean SAT scores for the RMIB Class of 2025: 1468
• Evidence Based Reading and Writing: 740 Mathematics 738 Total - 1468
• National Merit Scholarship Competition Finalists - Class of 2025 - 23

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/85ddf5c7e43e4729af561245c7f8fce8/5482_26_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing

This makes me question the math skills these kids have. Or at least their parents.

Before I judge you, can you explain your comment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here are this years numbers for RMIB I think they look really promising I’m not sure why we’re citing data from 2023 in here

The Mean SAT scores for the RMIB Class of 2025: 1468
• Evidence Based Reading and Writing: 740 Mathematics 738 Total - 1468
• National Merit Scholarship Competition Finalists - Class of 2025 - 23

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/85ddf5c7e43e4729af561245c7f8fce8/5482_26_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing

Haha, they read our thread and fixed their reporting to separate RMIB from RM overall scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get disproportionate number of interns from these programs where I work (STEM related). They are extremely talented.

I only hire my HS interns (more than 20) from Blair and TJ. They are all extremely talented and strong self-driven. I’ll not hire any more in the future from Blair once the regional model starts.

Well that's pretty obnoxious. You won't even consider a student who might be a good fit? What about now -- you won't consider a student who goes to their home school and takes a heavy load of AP STEM courses? That says a lot about you.

If you have ever supervised a HS intern, you’ll know it’s a service rather than a normal working relationship. You pay them but they don’t know a tiny bit about your research, but your time is also very limited. You won’t have time to teach them from scratch or meet them on a daily basis. What you can do is handing them a bunch of references, sample codes, lab materials, and expert them to start training themselves like a graduate student. That’s way way beyond a straight-A transcript with a bunch of AP courses. The reason I trust Blair and TJ is I know kids can survive there with a good resume can learn whatever they are requested to learn with minimal instruction.

Aside from your trashiness, Blair admits kids from test scores and a very short essay, which is very easy for you duplicate. And TJ already switched to a de-merited admission process years ago.

Still, top students from TJ keep the quality before and after the watering-down (BTW: TJ didn't de-merit the admission, their new process water down the program but the top is still the top).

Calling me trash doesn't help increase your kid's admission rate. I like smart and self-driven students. I provide them opportunities to contribute to the world in their early ages and intrigue them to consider working in R&D in the future. What did you do to make our next generation more competitive? By calling educator a trash?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here are this years numbers for RMIB I think they look really promising I’m not sure why we’re citing data from 2023 in here

The Mean SAT scores for the RMIB Class of 2025: 1468
• Evidence Based Reading and Writing: 740 Mathematics 738 Total - 1468
• National Merit Scholarship Competition Finalists - Class of 2025 - 23

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/85ddf5c7e43e4729af561245c7f8fce8/5482_26_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing

Haha, they read our thread and fixed their reporting to separate RMIB from RM overall scores.

Good for them These scores look much more reasonable now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are this years numbers for RMIB I think they look really promising I’m not sure why we’re citing data from 2023 in here

The Mean SAT scores for the RMIB Class of 2025: 1468
• Evidence Based Reading and Writing: 740 Mathematics 738 Total - 1468
• National Merit Scholarship Competition Finalists - Class of 2025 - 23

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/85ddf5c7e43e4729af561245c7f8fce8/5482_26_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing

This makes me question the math skills these kids have. Or at least their parents.

Before I judge you, can you explain your comment?

I think the PP is talking about the total score. It should be 1478, not 1468

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are this years numbers for RMIB I think they look really promising I’m not sure why we’re citing data from 2023 in here

The Mean SAT scores for the RMIB Class of 2025: 1468
• Evidence Based Reading and Writing: 740 Mathematics 738 Total - 1468
• National Merit Scholarship Competition Finalists - Class of 2025 - 23

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/contentassets/85ddf5c7e43e4729af561245c7f8fce8/5482_26_rmhs-profile-insert.pdf?usp=sharing

This makes me question the math skills these kids have. Or at least their parents.

DC said they don't know anyone who scored less than a 1500, but I guess the kids that do wouldn't talk about it. Also, lots of kids take the ACT now. DC scored a 36, one sitting, with prep consisting of 2 practice tests.

Agree the ACT has become more popular. That score range should be included, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get disproportionate number of interns from these programs where I work (STEM related). They are extremely talented.

I only hire my HS interns (more than 20) from Blair and TJ. They are all extremely talented and strong self-driven. I’ll not hire any more in the future from Blair once the regional model starts.

Well that's pretty obnoxious. You won't even consider a student who might be a good fit? What about now -- you won't consider a student who goes to their home school and takes a heavy load of AP STEM courses? That says a lot about you.

No, PP is just being honest. The Blair program will diminish. Thomas Taylor is a disaster for this county.

Taylor has taken away multiple important programs; this one is no different... you laughed when others had their programs removed, not thinking this would happen. Of course it would... oh well....

So it’s a payback?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get disproportionate number of interns from these programs where I work (STEM related). They are extremely talented.

I only hire my HS interns (more than 20) from Blair and TJ. They are all extremely talented and strong self-driven. I’ll not hire any more in the future from Blair once the regional model starts.

Well that's pretty obnoxious. You won't even consider a student who might be a good fit? What about now -- you won't consider a student who goes to their home school and takes a heavy load of AP STEM courses? That says a lot about you.

If you have ever supervised a HS intern, you’ll know it’s a service rather than a normal working relationship. You pay them but they don’t know a tiny bit about your research, but your time is also very limited. You won’t have time to teach them from scratch or meet them on a daily basis. What you can do is handing them a bunch of references, sample codes, lab materials, and expert them to start training themselves like a graduate student. That’s way way beyond a straight-A transcript with a bunch of AP courses. The reason I trust Blair and TJ is I know kids can survive there with a good resume can learn whatever they are requested to learn with minimal instruction.

We are talking about MCPS. TJ is not relevant.

Aside from your trashiness, Blair admits kids from test scores and a very short essay, which is very easy for you duplicate. And TJ already switched to a de-merited admission process years ago.

Still, top students from TJ keep the quality before and after the watering-down (BTW: TJ didn't de-merit the admission, their new process water down the program but the top is still the top).

Calling me trash doesn't help increase your kid's admission rate. I like smart and self-driven students. I provide them opportunities to contribute to the world in their early ages and intrigue them to consider working in R&D in the future. What did you do to make our next generation more competitive? By calling educator a trash?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get disproportionate number of interns from these programs where I work (STEM related). They are extremely talented.

I only hire my HS interns (more than 20) from Blair and TJ. They are all extremely talented and strong self-driven. I’ll not hire any more in the future from Blair once the regional model starts.

Well that's pretty obnoxious. You won't even consider a student who might be a good fit? What about now -- you won't consider a student who goes to their home school and takes a heavy load of AP STEM courses? That says a lot about you.

No, PP is just being honest. The Blair program will diminish. Thomas Taylor is a disaster for this county.

Taylor has taken away multiple important programs; this one is no different... you laughed when others had their programs removed, not thinking this would happen. Of course it would... oh well....

So it’s a payback?

Not at all payback but if he got rid of some programs, what did you think was going to happen? He has to fund all this non-sense some how.

[Anonymous]

Think about UMD College Park. Its strength comes from pulling in top students from all over Maryland (and even beyond). It would be unthinkable to limit it just to kids from Prince George’s and Montgomery County. The quality would slip, professors wouldn’t want to teach there, and strong students would stop applying - it would snowball downhill. The same goes for countywide magnets. They work because they bring together motivated kids and specialized teachers from across the county. Taylor is destroying the best of MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Think about UMD College Park. Its strength comes from pulling in top students from all over Maryland (and even beyond). It would be unthinkable to limit it just to kids from Prince George’s and Montgomery County. The quality would slip, professors wouldn’t want to teach there, and strong students would stop applying - it would snowball downhill. The same goes for countywide magnets. They work because they bring together motivated kids and specialized teachers from across the county. Taylor is destroying the best of MCPS.

Agree with this. MCPS has been declining over the past decade and this is just one more way to destroy what used to be a pretty impressive school system. RMIB and Blair (and all the other awesome programs - VAC @ Einstein, Poolesville SMACS, etc) were solid programs that encouraged families to stick with the public school system.