Why the Wash U haters? (Washington University/St. Louis)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s an Ivy League back up and it’s expensive as hell. Anybody living in VA who’s good enough to get into Wash U but not an Ivy is far better off going to UVA.

WashU opens far more doors than UVA

Agreed….not even close.

Disagree. I would pick UVA every day of the week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When is something going to matter?

Missouri women face significant healthcare challenges, including poor health outcomes, limited access to care, and high rates of preventable deaths, particularly in maternal and reproductive health. Contributing factors include a near-total abortion ban forcing patients to travel for care, widespread maternity care deserts, a high rate of uninsured women, particularly women of color, and a maternal mortality rate 50% higher than the national average. The bipartisan movement to address these issues includes efforts to improve access to contraception and address the shortage of OB-GYN providers.

https://missouriindependent.com/2024/07/24/missouri-women-reproductive-health-ranks-commonwealth-fund/
MISSOURI

Banned abortion at 8 weeks with no exceptions for rape and incest

state could investigate women’s miscarriages

doctors could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison

maternal mortality rate is 50% higher than the U.S.

congenital syphilis is at its highest rate in nearly two decades

5 counties in Missouri face a 1,000% increase in syphilis

Poor Health Outcomes:
Missouri ranks poorly for women's overall health, with high rates of maternal and infant mortality, breast and cervical cancer deaths, and poor mental health among women.
Maternity Care Deserts:
More than 41% of Missouri counties are maternity care deserts, lacking any birthing facilities or providers, making it harder for women to access care during pregnancy and birth.
Limited Access to Abortion:
A near-total abortion ban, enacted after the overturning of Roe v. Wade, forces Missouri residents to travel out of state for care, incurring additional costs for travel, lodging, and childcare.
Maternal Mortality:
The maternal mortality rate in Missouri is significantly higher than the national average, with Medicaid patients being at especially high risk.
Uninsured Population:
A substantial portion of Missouri women lack health insurance, particularly women of color, hindering their ability to access necessary healthcare services.
Healthcare Costs:
High costs of care and lack of guaranteed paid sick leave create economic instability and make it difficult for women, especially those in low-wage jobs, to access and afford the care they need.
Decreased OB-GYN Providers:
The state's abortion ban has led to a significant drop in OB-GYN residents, further exacerbating access issues for maternity and other reproductive care.
Addressing the Challenges
Legislation:
Bipartisan efforts are underway to reduce barriers to contraception and address the shortage of OB-GYN providers.
Advocacy:
Grassroots movements are working to improve reproductive freedom, access to care, and support for women's health issues.
Public Health Initiatives:
Organizations like the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services offer services such as Extended Women's Health Services to provide family planning, STD testing and treatment, and follow-up care.

Stand for something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- St. Louis sucks
- games admissions stats
- super Jewish
- not fun

Asians, now Jews? Hard to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because a pipeline to internships in Branson or Kansas City is not what most DCUMers are looking for.

That's not where Wash U students generally get internships. (Not that there's anything wrong with those locations.)

Try St. Louis, SF, NY, Chicago.

And not liking internship locations is not a reason to write disparagingly about a university.

Exactly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All the other T25s have more to offer. Its the weakest T25 as well

This is not true for premed. HSY Penn Brown Duke Rice Vandy WashU Emory are probably the best ones for premed.

Agree- good for pre-med but very competitive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the consensus is that it’s Missouri that’s the issue. Yet, people here love Rice and don’t post long missives about how women are treated under Texas laws. Why not?

People do complain about Rice and Texas. Young people like to be in Texas more than Missouri though.

[Anonymous]

People don’t seem to have a problem with Emory being in a red state and I’ve heard that Wash U is Emory’s Midwestern twin

[Anonymous]

WashU is an excellent school but some kids don't like St Louis. Same thing with JHU and Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There seem to be random anti-Wash U comments on this board, made in response to other inquiries. They are usually brief with no details. Curious why people seem to have a strong anti-Wash U sentiment and what it's based on? I was thinking maybe it's the location or the state, or are there other compelling reasons? What type of student thrives there? (referring to Washington University in St. Louis)

Stop trolling, troll.

[Anonymous]

It’s a great school that a few attack because it’s in St Louis. Parts of St. Louis are dangerous (similar to some other large cities) for sure but WashU is in a beautiful and safe part called Clayton. It has a large endowment and lovely campus and great academics. Most gads do get internships and jobs outside of MO but not sure why this would be a major issue. Abortion, if truly needed, is right across the border in Illinois. Great midsized school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On this forum, no matter the school, someone is going to have a visceral hatred for it.

My kid looked at WashU. It's a very nice campus with great programs, including in business and pre-med, which is what a lot of students are interested in today. Nice kids. Good vibes. And it's a nice neighborhood with the park and whatever that neighborhood is called.

I think the downsides are Missouri, which is far away from everything. And it feels... too comfortable. Like it's a swanky retirement home for 20 year olds.

There's a country club vibe to it, which is great for some, but not for everyone. Academically, it's a very good school in nearly everything. The students are all very solid. It's a very good school, but for the location and it feels like a place for wealthy students, like SLACs do.

Basically, WashU is a very comfortable school with great academics in a nice neighborhood in a faraway state that's close to nothing.

This is a pretty good description, and I would agree with the 'country club vibe' - academically, it is excellent in many areas, and with a very low faculty:student ratio for its size so the opportunity for close relationships with profs, tons of clubs and other activities, and seemingly endless resources. South 40 seems like a great place to spend freshman year and things like StEP and entrepreneurship programs are a big plus for some students. Plus it's nice to have great, comfortable dorms, easy apartments and off campus housing, and lots of food choices.

It's true that's not for everyone - some kids want a centuries old NE school with gothic architecture, etc. My dd is that kid - and while she would probably like to have a nicer dorm (not sure why so many very wealthy schools are resistant to spending money renovating dorms), other than that she really loves her school and is living her dream. My ds would be miserable there - and unsurprisingly, he really likes WashU. The location does not bother him - it's an easy direct flight from NYC, not far from the airport, and he likes what they offer - including quality of life. He likes the "country club" atmosphere and doesn't really want to be in a city like NY or Chicago, or in the middle of nowhere. He does not want a big party school or huge university or SLAC. Will he apply to places that DCUM thinks are "better" than WashU? Sure, but WashU is high up there for him - in a way that many higher rated schools are not. This is a kid with legacy at 3 T10 schools but he has no interest in any of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There seem to be random anti-Wash U comments on this board, made in response to other inquiries. They are usually brief with no details. Curious why people seem to have a strong anti-Wash U sentiment and what it's based on? I was thinking maybe it's the location or the state, or are there other compelling reasons? What type of student thrives there? (referring to Washington University in St. Louis)

Do people care enough about WashU to hate it? On the other hand, Emory and UVA, that's hate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the consensus is that it’s Missouri that’s the issue. Yet, people here love Rice and don’t post long missives about how women are treated under Texas laws. Why not?

Huh? Texas is also a sht hole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like the consensus is that it’s Missouri that’s the issue. Yet, people here love Rice and don’t post long missives about how women are treated under Texas laws. Why not?

People do complain about Rice and Texas. Young people like to be in Texas more than Missouri though.

Both these states are extremely aggressive with their abortion bans and involving themselves in folk's reproductive business. There's chatter out here about criminalizing iuds for goodness sake.

Suit yourself but sending your sons and daughters off to college in a state that might criminalize or severely restrict birth control does not seem like the wisest choice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s an Ivy League back up and it’s expensive as hell. Anybody living in VA who’s good enough to get into Wash U but not an Ivy is far better off going to UVA.

WashU opens far more doors than UVA

Agreed….not even close.

Disagree. I would pick UVA every day of the week.

UVA is a great state school, but I think that is your DMV bias talking. WashU is better almost across the board — with exceptions being PoliSci / Law. As a WashU grad, I will be the first to say that St. Louis is lame, and Missouri politics are awful, but the school is exceptional.