Duke Ed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not happening (from an alum interviewer)

From another alumni interviewer: how do you know? We do not see grades or test scores and are very specifically told not to ask. So either you are lying or you are violating the rules but requesting that information. And I doubt you interview enough kids to have a statistically significant data set to make such a definitive statement (I learned about that in Stats 110 back in the day).

I interview 5 young women in each round, sometimes more. I do not see their files but I absolutely learn about their accomplishments, including NMF. More importantly, these students typically have incredible credentials and super rigorous academics. I’ve seen 3 get in over the last 5 years. The head of my region shares the stats for my area so I know just how few are getting in. This student’s profile is not in alignment with those that are admitted based on my experience. The published stats for admitted students support my beliefs. I would not recommend wasting an ED shot, but it’s certainly his right.

Why do you only interview women? That is very odd.

[Anonymous]

Students at top Southern privates may have an easier time getting into Duke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not happening (from an alum interviewer)

From another alumni interviewer: how do you know? We do not see grades or test scores and are very specifically told not to ask. So either you are lying or you are violating the rules but requesting that information. And I doubt you interview enough kids to have a statistically significant data set to make such a definitive statement (I learned about that in Stats 110 back in the day).

I interview 5 young women in each round, sometimes more. I do not see their files but I absolutely learn about their accomplishments, including NMF. More importantly, these students typically have incredible credentials and super rigorous academics. I’ve seen 3 get in over the last 5 years. The head of my region shares the stats for my area so I know just how few are getting in. This student’s profile is not in alignment with those that are admitted based on my experience. The published stats for admitted students support my beliefs. I would not recommend wasting an ED shot, but it’s certainly his right.

Why do you only interview women? That is very odd.

Most (all?) schools match interviewers and candidates by gender. I had g/b twins who interviewed for about 10 top10 schools each and they always had same-gender interviewers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not happening (from an alum interviewer)

From another alumni interviewer: how do you know? We do not see grades or test scores and are very specifically told not to ask. So either you are lying or you are violating the rules but requesting that information. And I doubt you interview enough kids to have a statistically significant data set to make such a definitive statement (I learned about that in Stats 110 back in the day).

agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not happening (from an alum interviewer)

From another alumni interviewer: how do you know? We do not see grades or test scores and are very specifically told not to ask. So either you are lying or you are violating the rules but requesting that information. And I doubt you interview enough kids to have a statistically significant data set to make such a definitive statement (I learned about that in Stats 110 back in the day).

I interview 5 young women in each round, sometimes more. I do not see their files but I absolutely learn about their accomplishments, including NMF. More importantly, these students typically have incredible credentials and super rigorous academics. I’ve seen 3 get in over the last 5 years. The head of my region shares the stats for my area so I know just how few are getting in. This student’s profile is not in alignment with those that are admitted based on my experience. The published stats for admitted students support my beliefs. I would not recommend wasting an ED shot, but it’s certainly his right.

Why do you only interview women? That is very odd.

Most (all?) schools match interviewers and candidates by gender. I had g/b twins who interviewed for about 10 top10 schools each and they always had same-gender interviewers.

duke does not do that as a policy. it is not ever mentioned and i interview all genders for duke every year, always have.

[Anonymous]

Are his ECs at a national or international level?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are his ECs at a national or international level?

Agree. This matters at T10.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1490 would never get in from our private because that would be a second or third tier kid and Duke only takes top tier kids. From our school they require a 1560+. Your school and mileage may vary. you really have to look at your school's stats.

That’s not true at DC’s school. Multiple acceptances with SAT at 1500, and many rejections with SAT over 1550.

Exactly the point. Check your school's stats. 1490 is 50th percentile at ours. no one admitted unhooked to Duke with under a 1550 in 4 years and 100% of the class takes the test and submits scores. At another high school 1490 may be the top scorer in 4 years.
Duke wants top kids at the level of Harvard and Stanford (from our school--again this may vary).

My point was that the SAT score is not a good predictor for acceptance to Duke at our school. Yes, the kid has to be in the top 20 percent of the class. But beyond that, it’s about lots of other things.

This is true at our public HS also - most the SAT's of accepted students are well below the 25% percentile. High school average also low.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not happening (from an alum interviewer)

From another alumni interviewer: how do you know? We do not see grades or test scores and are very specifically told not to ask. So either you are lying or you are violating the rules but requesting that information. And I doubt you interview enough kids to have a statistically significant data set to make such a definitive statement (I learned about that in Stats 110 back in the day).

I interview 5 young women in each round, sometimes more. I do not see their files but I absolutely learn about their accomplishments, including NMF. More importantly, these students typically have incredible credentials and super rigorous academics. I’ve seen 3 get in over the last 5 years. The head of my region shares the stats for my area so I know just how few are getting in. This student’s profile is not in alignment with those that are admitted based on my experience. The published stats for admitted students support my beliefs. I would not recommend wasting an ED shot, but it’s certainly his right.

Why do you only interview women? That is very odd.

Most (all?) schools match interviewers and candidates by gender. I had g/b twins who interviewed for about 10 top10 schools each and they always had same-gender interviewers.

duke does not do that as a policy. it is not ever mentioned and i interview all genders for duke every year, always have.

Same with me (I'm the person who originally asked the question). I am pretty much 50/50. If it got out that they matched by gender that would look really horrible. That is why I am very skeptical about the poster. If they interview as much as they claim to, there is no way they would only have one gender.

[Anonymous]

In the past three years, there were two unhooked Duke acceptances from our public school, which is not in the DC area. We know them both well. Their stays were 1550+ and 3.9/4.0 with 12 AP classes, including BC their junior year. One was ED and one was RD.

There were also two hooked acceptances during those three years. Not sure about their stats. The Naviance stats aren’t complete.

[Anonymous]

If this 1490 student was the top student in his/her class (or one of top 1%), student body or class president and captain of major winning sports team, and their score is more than 300 points above school average, should this applicant submit 1490 to Duke or go test optional? And does the answer change if ED vs. RD?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not happening (from an alum interviewer)

From another alumni interviewer: how do you know? We do not see grades or test scores and are very specifically told not to ask. So either you are lying or you are violating the rules but requesting that information. And I doubt you interview enough kids to have a statistically significant data set to make such a definitive statement (I learned about that in Stats 110 back in the day).

I interview 5 young women in each round, sometimes more. I do not see their files but I absolutely learn about their accomplishments, including NMF. More importantly, these students typically have incredible credentials and super rigorous academics. I’ve seen 3 get in over the last 5 years. The head of my region shares the stats for my area so I know just how few are getting in. This student’s profile is not in alignment with those that are admitted based on my experience. The published stats for admitted students support my beliefs. I would not recommend wasting an ED shot, but it’s certainly his right.

Why do you only interview women? That is very odd.

Most (all?) schools match interviewers and candidates by gender. I had g/b twins who interviewed for about 10 top10 schools each and they always had same-gender interviewers.

duke does not do that as a policy. it is not ever mentioned and i interview all genders for duke every year, always have.

I have been an alumni interviewer for Duke for 17 years, and I can tell you they do not parse by gender.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this 1490 student was the top student in his/her class (or one of top 1%), student body or class president and captain of major winning sports team, and their score is more than 300 points above school average, should this applicant submit 1490 to Duke or go test optional? And does the answer change if ED vs. RD?

submit. class president + captain counts for a lot imo

[Anonymous]

My kid applied Duke ED last year and did not get in. 1510 SAT, #1 in his class, 13 APs (5s, 2 4s), ECs and relevant internship experience.

Go ahead and shoot your shot, but be realistic - it's just so competitive. Most applicants will have higher stats. Most will be superstars. But they have to say yes to someone right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this 1490 student was the top student in his/her class (or one of top 1%), student body or class president and captain of major winning sports team, and their score is more than 300 points above school average, should this applicant submit 1490 to Duke or go test optional? And does the answer change if ED vs. RD?

In that case, I'd look at the Naviance data. Has Duke accepted any one from your school in the past? What are their stats? That seems to be the most reliable data.
If Duke hasn't taken any one from your school recently, I'd ED to be on the safe side.