UNC vs UVA - recruited athlete..

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Anonymous wrote:So it’s clear that no one in this thread knows annything about track. UVA somehow got Vin Lananna away from Oregon (was at Nike and Stanford prior) to he Director of Track & Field. He’s a literal legend. President of USA Track & Field. His reputation for working with students is sterling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Lananna

The running community wonders why he hasn’t had the same success at uva that he had at Stanford and Oregon many years ago.

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=13728709#post-15

I’m sorry, didn’t they just win the ACC Championship and send a bunch of athletes to NCAAs? Margot Appleton?!?

Please don’t cite a toxic message board.

VT has won like 20 ACC championships in track, so an ACC title is nice for UVA, but nowhere close to the multiple national championships he won in his prime at previous stops.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s clear that no one in this thread knows annything about track. UVA somehow got Vin Lananna away from Oregon (was at Nike and Stanford prior) to he Director of Track & Field. He’s a literal legend. President of USA Track & Field. His reputation for working with students is sterling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Lananna

Lananna was a great coach! Unfortunately, he is 72 and from what I've heard, he delegates to his assistants quite a bit

Yes - just googled it. For someone who isn't even in college yet, I'm guessing he is highly unlikely to be there for all four years of college.

Your child will be spending a ton of time with the other members of the team - cross country runners in particular tend to be very cliquey (this is not a bad thing - just a general rule of thumb - I have several close friends who ran XC in college and most of their close friends were from their teams - great groups of guys). How do they fit in on the two teams?

The other question is $$$. Are you getting a scholarship? What is your net cost.

If your child wants Econ and thinks they might want business, try to get a guaranteed acceptance to McIntire. Doesn't hurt to ask. Worst case they don't use it.

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Unless kid is going to have an Olympic/pro track career, go with the best fit from a school/team perspective. Going to be spending a bunch of time with his teammates for the next four years.

No great difference in career or grad school prospects graduating from either school.

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UNC you’re a student athlete, UVA you’re an athlete student.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a runner choosing btw UVA and UNC for XC/Track. Econ major ultimately looking for finance or consulting path. A wise college coach told my older kid during a come to jesus moment frosh year - “your college experiences will allow you opportunities to focus on social, academic, and athletic paths - you need to choose two of the three, you can’t have all three” - if this is the same at UNC and UVA, which school provides the best two options?

UVA is better for business. Duke takes a lot of the best NC students, but UVA is the best option in VA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a runner choosing btw UVA and UNC for XC/Track. Econ major ultimately looking for finance or consulting path. A wise college coach told my older kid during a come to jesus moment frosh year - “your college experiences will allow you opportunities to focus on social, academic, and athletic paths - you need to choose two of the three, you can’t have all three” - if this is the same at UNC and UVA, which school provides the best two options?

UVA is better for business. Duke takes a lot of the best NC students, but UVA is the best option in VA

Cite?

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Anonymous wrote:UNC you’re a student athlete, UVA you’re an athlete student.

I’m pretty sure the athlete experience is similar at each and depends on the sport.

I doubt the current UNC football players under Belicheck are expected to attend much class (outside of studying football tape).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a runner choosing btw UVA and UNC for XC/Track. Econ major ultimately looking for finance or consulting path. A wise college coach told my older kid during a come to jesus moment frosh year - “your college experiences will allow you opportunities to focus on social, academic, and athletic paths - you need to choose two of the three, you can’t have all three” - if this is the same at UNC and UVA, which school provides the best two options?

UVA is better for business. Duke takes a lot of the best NC students, but UVA is the best option in VA

LOL! Duke does not.

I don’t think you can go wrong with either and this is a great problem to have. OP said kid wanted Econ, not business. If it was business, neither UVA nor Chapel Hill have direct admits to the business school.

We do not need to rehash the ridiculous prejudice re NC kids and their intelligence or make claims that UNC students are dumber bc of the high, state mandates in state 82% minimum. Every UNC thread turns into that and it seems like there are 1 or 2 posters fixated on this theory and hijack threads.

The schools are different. I went to both (Chapel Hill undergrad and UVA grad). I was an OOS Econ major at UNC, they have a fantastic Econ department. I am sure UVA does too. While I am sure UVA alumni network is strong, the UNC network (esp the athlete alumni network) is incredible. If your kid is going to be a division 1 student athlete, I would also focus on that.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is a runner choosing btw UVA and UNC for XC/Track. Econ major ultimately looking for finance or consulting path. A wise college coach told my older kid during a come to jesus moment frosh year - “your college experiences will allow you opportunities to focus on social, academic, and athletic paths - you need to choose two of the three, you can’t have all three” - if this is the same at UNC and UVA, which school provides the best two options?

UVA

You want your kid to get an education athletes do not at UNC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s clear that no one in this thread knows annything about track. UVA somehow got Vin Lananna away from Oregon (was at Nike and Stanford prior) to he Director of Track & Field. He’s a literal legend. President of USA Track & Field. His reputation for working with students is sterling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Lananna

Lananna was a great coach! Unfortunately, he is 72 and from what I've heard, he delegates to his assistants quite a bit

Just so you know, this is how track works. There's a head coach and each major area has a coach. Distance, hurdles, throwers, etc.

This thread is a great reminder that DCUM is not a great place for info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UNC you’re a student athlete, UVA you’re an athlete student.

I’m pretty sure the athlete experience is similar at each and depends on the sport.

I doubt the current UNC football players under Belicheck are expected to attend much class (outside of studying football tape).

Take your football shenanigans to the college or sports forum.

As for UVA, my best friend was a student tutor for athletes in undergrad and I will never forget she got paired with Tiki Barber to tutor him. For a meeting she told him to meet her at the Rotunda, and he didn’t know what or where that was.

[Anonymous]

UVA is more prestigious for finance /econ but you can't make a bad choice here so go with whichever vibe matches your kid better! UVA is more of a go-getter constant buzz while UNC is a bit more laid back. Both GREAT!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UNC you’re a student athlete, UVA you’re an athlete student.

I’m pretty sure the athlete experience is similar at each and depends on the sport.

I doubt the current UNC football players under Belicheck are expected to attend much class (outside of studying football tape).

Take your football shenanigans to the college or sports forum.

As for UVA, my best friend was a student tutor for athletes in undergrad and I will never forget she got paired with Tiki Barber to tutor him. For a meeting she told him to meet her at the Rotunda, and he didn’t know what or where that was.

The rotunda has multiple places to study. Maybe that was the issue. Tiki is not one of the “dumb” football players. He got a business degree from McIntire and his post-football career has shown he’s not an idiot. (Though he is in his personal life!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UNC you’re a student athlete, UVA you’re an athlete student.

I’m pretty sure the athlete experience is similar at each and depends on the sport.

I doubt the current UNC football players under Belicheck are expected to attend much class (outside of studying football tape).

Take your football shenanigans to the college or sports forum.

As for UVA, my best friend was a student tutor for athletes in undergrad and I will never forget she got paired with Tiki Barber to tutor him. For a meeting she told him to meet her at the Rotunda, and he didn’t know what or where that was.

That’s the same at all Power 4 schools. UNC had the huge scandal where none of the basketball players were doing any of their own work (including not taking tests) and professors completely looked the other way. They were all taking the same classes where the Profs knew what was happening and didn’t care.

BTW…most Power 4 tutors are literally doing all the athlete’s work. Very little actual tutoring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it’s clear that no one in this thread knows annything about track. UVA somehow got Vin Lananna away from Oregon (was at Nike and Stanford prior) to he Director of Track & Field. He’s a literal legend. President of USA Track & Field. His reputation for working with students is sterling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin_Lananna

Lananna was a great coach! Unfortunately, he is 72 and from what I've heard, he delegates to his assistants quite a bit

Just so you know, this is how track works. There's a head coach and each major area has a coach. Distance, hurdles, throwers, etc.

This thread is a great reminder that DCUM is not a great place for info.

Let’s make this easier for you to understand. What are the chances that a 72 year old coach is still around in any capacity in five years?