The only way to have equity is to drag down the top performers

Anonymous
Anyone who believes that entire groups of people shouldn’t be given equal opportunity to a rigorous education is a bigot.
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Anonymous wrote:Throwing resources at low performers absolutely will lift them up. And if your kid is really a high performers, they will be a high performer with or without resources.

We don't have an infinite amount of resources though. And why should high performers be ignored? Making the magnets all regional is ignoring the very high performers.

FWIW, I grew up lower income and went to an awful school.


+100

The state should really invest the most in the top quartile in order promote excellence and achievement to benefit our society overall.

Any honest teacher will tell you that the differences intellectual capacity are significant and important. Some kids work hard and have good personalities but are never going to be acing organic chemistry or advanced calculus. And that is OK. There are many low-skilled jobs that are essential to our society and confer value and dignity to those who perform them.


+10000000

Also when we talk about equity, why should we limit it to just academics. Why not, extend it to sports. Anyone who wants to play high school football should be able to play not just the best players.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:The W parents really can’t help but reveal their racism, can they?


NP and Actually—what’s Weird that this post only revealed your OWN racist worldview—
OP didn’t mention or even suggest race at all. Just emphasized that not all students perform at a high level or choose to meet high standards even when provided the resources to achieve a high outcome. So for the resultant be equitable, the system necessarily must prevent high achievers from out-performing lower ones.

It is YOU who assumed that those who would under-perform would not be white (or Asian I assume?)—since you also assumed OP is representing a viewpoint at the W schools, who can is majority white/asian.

But OP never suggested either of these things.
It is you who is displaying racism by your assumption that an underperforming student would naturally need your protection from “racist” W parents—since, in your mind, the underperforming students can’t possibly be white? That’s concerning on many levels. Look in the mirror.


Either you don’t know MCPS’s data or you’re playing dumb.

If you know MCPS’s data, then you know that the majority of the “low performers” are Black and Hispanic kids and the majority of the “high performers” are White and Asian.

So when you say that low performers will never improve, you are de facto talking about Black and Hispanic kids.


No you are. If your mind is set like that, everything you read/hear is thru that prism. Stop with fake outrage.

Np
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who believes that entire groups of people shouldn’t be given equal opportunity to a rigorous education is a bigot.


Opportunities are there but not taken. Education is not important in some social circles.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who believes that entire groups of people shouldn’t be given equal opportunity to a rigorous education is a bigot.


They are also selfish if they want to just save the seats and opportunities for their kids for less competition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Throwing resources at low performers absolutely will lift them up. And if your kid is really a high performers, they will be a high performer with or without resources.

We don't have an infinite amount of resources though. And why should high performers be ignored? Making the magnets all regional is ignoring the very high performers.

FWIW, I grew up lower income and went to an awful school.


It benefits everyone in society if schools can get low performers to graduate. You can’t get a job without a diploma and health insurance comes with a job.

High performers figure it out.


I have a low performer. He has an IEP and gets a ton of help. It is great.

I have a general ed kid. She gets ignored. She is not AAP. If she got equal amount of attention my low performer is getting she’d be amazing.

Everyone should get the same. Even high performers.

I want Every person to be their best!
Please someone cure cancer, make world
Peace! We need good smart people to be there for the lower performers. We all do better.

But hey - let everyone figure it out for themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:The W parents really can’t help but reveal their racism, can they?


Who mentioned race?


The people who write that kind of drivel believe the top performers are all from certain racial groups.


Not “all,” but the majority of the “top performers” are White and Asian. The data is there for you to look at.
Anonymous
I don’t think the goal is for everyone to get rhe same scores. At our school all the kids have “growth” goals on state testing, so they are expected to improve on their own prior scores. The MD report card recognizes schools based on how far they can bring students up per year, not the absolute score they get.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The W parents really can’t help but reveal their racism, can they?


NP and Actually—what’s Weird that this post only revealed your OWN racist worldview—
OP didn’t mention or even suggest race at all. Just emphasized that not all students perform at a high level or choose to meet high standards even when provided the resources to achieve a high outcome. So for the resultant be equitable, the system necessarily must prevent high achievers from out-performing lower ones.

It is YOU who assumed that those who would under-perform would not be white (or Asian I assume?)—since you also assumed OP is representing a viewpoint at the W schools, who can is majority white/asian.

But OP never suggested either of these things.
It is you who is displaying racism by your assumption that an underperforming student would naturally need your protection from “racist” W parents—since, in your mind, the underperforming students can’t possibly be white? That’s concerning on many levels. Look in the mirror.


Do you not know what the word equity means? Why would you need to prevent high achievers from outperforming lower ones to make things equitable?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Equal opportunity does not lead to equal outcomes. There is no vast amount of untapped talent. Throwing resources at low performers won't significantly lift them. If equity is the goal, the only way to get there is to handicap the very top performers. This is exactly what MCPS is doing.


Of course this is true. That's why everyone sends their kids to private school. Get with the program, OP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Equal opportunity does not lead to equal outcomes. There is no vast amount of untapped talent. Throwing resources at low performers won't significantly lift them. If equity is the goal, the only way to get there is to handicap the very top performers. This is exactly what MCPS is doing.


My kid is a top performer. In a magnet when they were still competitive and the selection process disadvantaged kids from high performing schools, NMF, math through MCV, LA, DE and beyond.

And, I absolutely think MCPS should invest more in bringing up the many kids that aren’t backed with endless parental involvement rather than giving even more opportunities to my own outlier kid. She will do fine on her own.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Throwing resources at low performers absolutely will lift them up. And if your kid is really a high performers, they will be a high performer with or without resources.

We don't have an infinite amount of resources though. And why should high performers be ignored? Making the magnets all regional is ignoring the very high performers.

FWIW, I grew up lower income and went to an awful school.


+100

The state should really invest the most in the top quartile in order promote excellence and achievement to benefit our society overall.

Any honest teacher will tell you that the differences intellectual capacity are significant and important. Some kids work hard and have good personalities but are never going to be acing organic chemistry or advanced calculus. And that is OK. There are many low-skilled jobs that are essential to our society and confer value and dignity to those who perform them.


+10000000

Also when we talk about equity, why should we limit it to just academics. Why not, extend it to sports. Anyone who wants to play high school football should be able to play not just the best players.


The issue is on this board over on the sports forum that is what people are arguing for. Or was it the MCPS one?

Not for football. But for other sports because they say it's not fair how there is such limited spots on school teams.

And this is what our world is coming to... Or at least the thought process on the DC Urbanmom world...
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The W parents really can’t help but reveal their racism, can they?


Who mentioned race?


The dog whistles are there. Smart racists in 2025 know to infer and suggest at racist ideas instead of stating them directly.

The idea that those who aren’t performing because they are incapable is an old racist, white supremacist trope that avoids holding systems accountable for structural inequity and failed leadership.

It holds up the idea that the only kids capable of being smart in MCPS, which are largely the white and Asian kids, the ones most deserving. While the ones doing the worst, largely Black and Hispanic kids, do poorly because they can’t do better. It’s racial superiority garbage.


I am sorry to break it to you but there are plenty of dimwitted white and Asian kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The W parents really can’t help but reveal their racism, can they?


Who mentioned race?


The dog whistles are there. Smart racists in 2025 know to infer and suggest at racist ideas instead of stating them directly.

The idea that those who aren’t performing because they are incapable is an old racist, white supremacist trope that avoids holding systems accountable for structural inequity and failed leadership.

It holds up the idea that the only kids capable of being smart in MCPS, which are largely the white and Asian kids, the ones most deserving. While the ones doing the worst, largely Black and Hispanic kids, do poorly because they can’t do better. It’s racial superiority garbage.


The dog whistles are in your own mind and and reveal your own prejudice and attitude ms of white racial superiority that you are cloaking as concerned advocacy.
Might need to step back and stop treating a whole group of people as though they need to be rescued and uplifted by you in order to succeed.
“Do poorly because they can’t do better” is cringe and condescendingly dripping with low expectations that it is actually gross.


👏👏👏
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The W parents really can’t help but reveal their racism, can they?


Who mentioned race?


The dog whistles are there. Smart racists in 2025 know to infer and suggest at racist ideas instead of stating them directly.

The idea that those who aren’t performing because they are incapable is an old racist, white supremacist trope that avoids holding systems accountable for structural inequity and failed leadership.

It holds up the idea that the only kids capable of being smart in MCPS, which are largely the white and Asian kids, the ones most deserving. While the ones doing the worst, largely Black and Hispanic kids, do poorly because they can’t do better. It’s racial superiority garbage.


I am sorry to break it to you but there are plenty of dimwitted white and Asian kids.


Racist lies.
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