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DP. You should educate yourself. The PP worded it poorly, but, yes, official Catholic teaching is that Catholicism is a federal territorial system with Bishop’s as the head shepherd of their territory (this is, of course, borrowed heavily from the governance system of the Roman Empire). Ordained, religious, consecrated, and lay Catholics do have an obligation to follow their particular Bishop’s teachings so long as the teachings are about and do not contradict the capital “T” Tradition. This governance system can spring up in weird ways. For example, while members of a religious order do not actually answer to a Bishop, any particular religious order cannot operate within a Bishop’s territory without the permission of that Bishop. While not publicized, jurisdictions where any particular order is not permitted to operate. So, years ago, when a Jesuit school in Massachusetts refused to bring down a pride flag, the local Bishop forbid them from celebrating the Mass and identifying themselves as Catholic. Those Jesuits had to respect that particular order from the Bishop. Our kids go to a religious Catholic school (non-Diocesan). Students of non-Catholic denominations were permitted to do readings at their weekly school Mass (organized by grade). Our Bishop got wind of it and he told the school only baptized Catholics were to do readings at Mass. The school complied even though it is not a Diocesan school. There are plenty of resources on this topic of obedience to your Bishop and it is well established doctrine. I don’t necessarily know if Bishops are explicitly wording it as “kids must go to Mass once a week and on HDOs in schools” so the idea that forbidding your kid from that Mass is a mortal sin is probably a bit heavy handed by PP. Yes, many Saints have been canonized for standing up to Bishops acting against the Tradition. Many have also been canonized for obedience and fidelity to the Tradition and their Bishops. Your example here is a bit heavy handed. |
| Who is "forbidding" their kid from going to weekly mass? |
The principal of my children's Catholic school is a priest, and two of the teachers are nuns. The school has weekly mass. My kids have missed school mass plenty of times over the years - probably one or two per school year - for appointments, illness, etc. and it has NEVER been an issue. |
Sure, but that’s different from the militant PP who seems to be implying that she does not want her children at weekly Mass as prescribed by her Dioceses for her school. |
I did not get that implication at all. |
Here are the quotes: “It’s actually quite useful because I can schedule appointments (like his weekly therapy) during that time and he doesn’t miss instruction time. Also we can go to mass with him if we wish, which is lovely.” “To attend a weekly non-obligatory Mass? No. I can take care of that on Sunday.” ————- I think “a conflict occurred that I didn’t expect/Larla is sick” is fine. I also don’t think the Bishop or your priest is going to come after you for missing once or twice over the school year. If your attitude is: “the academic instruction is more important than the Mass, so I’ll use Mass as a flex period to do other things” or “I don’t want Mass during the week for my kids, I’ll take care of it on Sunday” then I respectfully wonder why you are in a Catholic school and I wonder about your understanding of Catholicism. |
| I mean mass is like any other part of the curriculum in Catholic school. If you are at school that day, you go. If a family refused to allow their kid to go to mass or the kid refused to go to mass (neither of which I imagine happen very often) I assume it would be handled no differently than if there was refusal to go to math class or gym class. |
I want Mass for my children. But if they have to miss school during the week for an appointment or something, during mass would be a strong contender for choice of a time because the obligation can still be met on Sunday. *shrug* |
And if you miss that obligation, you go straight to hell! If you don’t die or go to confession first that is |
It is not a weekly obligation. The obligation is: *at some point during the Saturday vigil (typically no earlier than 4:30 pm on Saturday) through Sunday evening, attend a Mass; *On other Holy Days of Obligation (as established by the USCCB for America), attend a Mass. there are only two that fall during the academic year in 2025. The other 5 fall on non-school days (depending on when your school starts for one). *if your school celebrates a non HDO feast day, like your patron Saint (Our Lady of Guadalupe is very important at our schools), I would strongly suggest every effort be made to attend. *if your Bishop or Diocese has made the suggestion/guideline that Catholic school students attend weekly Mass, I would also strongly suggest they attend. Primarily because the celebration of Mass is a gift, but also if for no other reason than building good Catholic habits of attending Mass, receiving the Eucharist and understanding the faith. There is no “I can attend on Sunday to take care of the obligation” because a non Sunday Mass doesn’t cover the Sunday obligation. It isn’t an either/or between weekday and Sunday. I get different people and communities will have different attitudes. At one of my kids’ school, if they took away weekly Mass there would be a revolt by the parents. I was at a parent meeting last year where a mom got up and told the administration she didn’t “give a crap if her student made a C in algebra as long as he’s right with Jesus” and 80% of the parents stood up and applauded. But this is also the kind of school where there are a ton of 5+ kid families and we joke that we should have an OB join the medical staff at football games because there are always a few moms that are ready to go into labor at any moment. Out of sincere curiosity, if you are so flippant about the Mass that you *shrug* at it, why be at the school in the first place? |
Point out where I said it was. |
Out of sincere curiosity, are you autistic? |
“But if they have to miss school during the week for an appointment or something, during mass would be a strong contender for choice of a time because the obligation can still be met on Sunday.” The bolded part suggests you believe they are related. |
No. Does being snarky make you feel better about yourself? |