Coming back when DRP ends

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was a gamble but the DRP folks made the right choice. Ten people had a nice 6 month paid vacation and will return in October. Most are almost 62 and will work till the 10% pension kicks in. A few are young and have not found another job yet. We are glad to have the staff but as a taxpayer???


I call troll. The DRP contracts forbade returning for a multi year blackout period. And there are statutes backing that part up.


As others have noted, DRP contracts varied by agency - not all included prohibits on returning (mine didn’t). But also, contracts only matter if the party wants to enforce it. If the agency is the one rehiring, clearly they don’t care about enforcing the contractual provision prohibiting individuals from returning to federal service.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It was a gamble but the DRP folks made the right choice. Ten people had a nice 6 month paid vacation and will return in October. Most are almost 62 and will work till the 10% pension kicks in. A few are young and have not found another job yet. We are glad to have the staff but as a taxpayer???

I call troll. OP unable to name the agency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was a gamble but the DRP folks made the right choice. Ten people had a nice 6 month paid vacation and will return in October. Most are almost 62 and will work till the 10% pension kicks in. A few are young and have not found another job yet. We are glad to have the staff but as a taxpayer???

I call troll. OP unable to name the agency.


OP said Treasury.
Anonymous
I am not a troll. I am not a manager either so I do not know the technicalities. Some of our former employees are contractors now too. They work mostly from home and earn more.
Anonymous
We have multiple cases of DRP and VSIP takers who wanted to back out of their decision. Our agency told them to get stuffed. The only people we “called back” are the Probationaries who were sent home for a few months.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was a gamble but the DRP folks made the right choice. Ten people had a nice 6 month paid vacation and will return in October. Most are almost 62 and will work till the 10% pension kicks in. A few are young and have not found another job yet. We are glad to have the staff but as a taxpayer???

I call troll. OP unable to name the agency.


NO. Already had said Treasury, which is specific enough for DCUM.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was a gamble but the DRP folks made the right choice. Ten people had a nice 6 month paid vacation and will return in October. Most are almost 62 and will work till the 10% pension kicks in. A few are young and have not found another job yet. We are glad to have the staff but as a taxpayer???

I call troll. OP unable to name the agency.


NO. Already had said Treasury, which is specific enough for DCUM.


I have heard this is happening at the IRS for people in jobs related to processing tax returns. Definitely a very small number of the overall DRP population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We have multiple cases of DRP and VSIP takers who wanted to back out of their decision. Our agency told them to get stuffed. The only people we “called back” are the Probationaries who were sent home for a few months.


Opposite at my office. We had about a half dozen, myself included, take DRP/VERA and everyone says it's the best decision they've ever made. Nobody has any interest in going back. Fed work was rewarding at one time, but last few years not so much. Time to move on!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The other thing happening some places is they are using their wxisting body shop contractor to bring back some VSIP/DRP people who were valuable. Totally legal. Net it costs the government more - because of the profit margin at the body shop contractor. However, it lets government retain trained experienced people.

Elon still does not understood how the government sector really works.


This is happening a lot. Lots of money thrown away.
Anonymous
Is this at Main treasury or one of the bureaus? I know IRS is working on rescinding DRP for revenue agents/officers, but OP sounds like this already set for 10 people in his/her office.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never rehire a DRP person. I don’t begrudge them their free vacation, but it’s been a lot more work for the rest of us.


Why blame the worker over the people who created your staffing problem? People are making the best of a tough situation that they did not wish for or create. Make it make sense!


+1

Folks who took the DRP are not responsible for your workplace/workload changes. They are pawns in this game just as you are. The people running the game are to blame (Trump, Nutlick, Elon, Vought at al.).

That said I have only heard of IRS taking back DRPs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never rehire a DRP person. I don’t begrudge them their free vacation, but it’s been a lot more work for the rest of us.


You are not a hiring official though.


I am a hiring official and would not hire a DRP person. The amount of work they all stuck us with, only to have them return later is insane. The rest of us have barely been hanging on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would never rehire a DRP person. I don’t begrudge them their free vacation, but it’s been a lot more work for the rest of us.


You are assuming people took DRP completely voluntarily. The concept of DRP was to drum out people without having to fire them or go through a RIF. Many took DRP with VERA so they could save their health insurance or not get fired, not because they wanted to go. And, so many were the very best workers who struggled with knowing they were leaving those who couldn't take DRP behind to have to do more work with less.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never rehire a DRP person. I don’t begrudge them their free vacation, but it’s been a lot more work for the rest of us.


Why blame the worker over the people who created your staffing problem? People are making the best of a tough situation that they did not wish for or create. Make it make sense!


+1

Folks who took the DRP are not responsible for your workplace/workload changes. They are pawns in this game just as you are. The people running the game are to blame (Trump, Nutlick, Elon, Vought at al.).

That said I have only heard of IRS taking back DRPs.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never rehire a DRP person. I don’t begrudge them their free vacation, but it’s been a lot more work for the rest of us.


You are not a hiring official though.


I am a hiring official and would not hire a DRP person. The amount of work they all stuck us with, only to have them return later is insane. The rest of us have barely been hanging on.


There are really good people out there with perfect experience, and you are passing on them due to your own biases. It's worth a re-think if you want the best team.
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