Back to Test Required - What Minimum Score or Score Range Gets You a Look at Each Ivy this Cycle?

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Anonymous wrote:Yall are delusional 25th percentiles are not for your upper middle class white children. Thats not happening.

Then who are they for? Schools will be careful to avoid different average scores for accepted students by race for the next few years...

No. Once it's transparent, people will scrutinize rejected pool too. If they see all the high scorer white being rejected while low scorer white being accepted, there is something fishy.

I'm fairly certain Trump's admin only sees the admitted students' stats, not the denied ones.

Do we think the "algorithms" that shape classes will try to ensure admitted students' stats across races are closer this year?

I don't know but I think that holistic reviews will all be done with an eye towards what this student will look like when stripped of all facts other than GPA & test score.

Seems like contextual review of SAT scores may become more important this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Yall are delusional 25th percentiles are not for your upper middle class white children. Thats not happening.

with a niche humanities major and some national awards?
yes, it works.

+1, all the time. Where do people think the ivies get their top art talent from?

Agree. Worked for my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Yall are delusional 25th percentiles are not for your upper middle class white children. Thats not happening.

Then who are they for? Schools will be careful to avoid different average scores for accepted students by race for the next few years...

No. Once it's transparent, people will scrutinize rejected pool too. If they see all the high scorer white being rejected while low scorer white being accepted, there is something fishy.

I'm fairly certain Trump's admin only sees the admitted students' stats, not the denied ones.

Do we think the "algorithms" that shape classes will try to ensure admitted students' stats across races are closer this year?

I don't know but I think that holistic reviews will all be done with an eye towards what this student will look like when stripped of all facts other than GPA & test score.

Seems like contextual review of SAT scores may become more important this year.

Can the initial score be lower if the applicant comes from a lower scoring school? Will that matter more this year? I think I've heard people call this landscape.

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Anonymous wrote:Yall are delusional 25th percentiles are not for your upper middle class white children. Thats not happening.

Then who are they for? Schools will be careful to avoid different average scores for accepted students by race for the next few years...

No. Once it's transparent, people will scrutinize rejected pool too. If they see all the high scorer white being rejected while low scorer white being accepted, there is something fishy.

I'm fairly certain Trump's admin only sees the admitted students' stats, not the denied ones.

Do we think the "algorithms" that shape classes will try to ensure admitted students' stats across races are closer this year?

I don't know but I think that holistic reviews will all be done with an eye towards what this student will look like when stripped of all facts other than GPA & test score.

Seems like contextual review of SAT scores may become more important this year.

Can the initial score be lower if the applicant comes from a lower scoring school? Will that matter more this year? I think I've heard people call this landscape.

Are you talking about College Board's Landscape tool? That has been used post-pandemic.
Basically, if you have 1580 among a sea of 1550s, it indicates you are from a well resourced school.
But if you have 1500 from a school having a median of 1300, then that's more impressive from an under-resourced school.
I would say the latter has advantage over the former, score-wise.

Nobody knows what would happen to Landscaping this year. Lots of abrupt disruptions this year, sorta like the covid first year, maybe worse.
People will do a post mortem a year later when data is out.

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Anonymous wrote:Yall are delusional 25th percentiles are not for your upper middle class white children. Thats not happening.

Then who are they for? Schools will be careful to avoid different average scores for accepted students by race for the next few years...

No. Once it's transparent, people will scrutinize rejected pool too. If they see all the high scorer white being rejected while low scorer white being accepted, there is something fishy.

I'm fairly certain Trump's admin only sees the admitted students' stats, not the denied ones.

Do we think the "algorithms" that shape classes will try to ensure admitted students' stats across races are closer this year?

I don't know but I think that holistic reviews will all be done with an eye towards what this student will look like when stripped of all facts other than GPA & test score.

Seems like contextual review of SAT scores may become more important this year.

Can the initial score be lower if the applicant comes from a lower scoring school? Will that matter more this year? I think I've heard people call this landscape.

Are you talking about College Board's Landscape tool? That has been used post-pandemic.
Basically, if you have 1580 among a sea of 1550s, it indicates you are from a well resourced school.
But if you have 1500 from a school having a median of 1300, then that's more impressive from an under-resourced school.
I would say the latter has advantage over the former, score-wise.

Nobody knows what would happen to Landscaping this year. Lots of abrupt disruptions this year, sorta like the covid first year, maybe worse.
People will do a post mortem a year later when data is out.

NP. Agree with what you are saying, except that a high school with an average of 1300 is actually still a well-resourced high school in many parts of the country. Average-resourced high school will have a much lower average, like 1100.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall are delusional 25th percentiles are not for your upper middle class white children. Thats not happening.

Then who are they for? Schools will be careful to avoid different average scores for accepted students by race for the next few years...

No. Once it's transparent, people will scrutinize rejected pool too. If they see all the high scorer white being rejected while low scorer white being accepted, there is something fishy.

I'm fairly certain Trump's admin only sees the admitted students' stats, not the denied ones.

Do we think the "algorithms" that shape classes will try to ensure admitted students' stats across races are closer this year?

I don't know but I think that holistic reviews will all be done with an eye towards what this student will look like when stripped of all facts other than GPA & test score.

Seems like contextual review of SAT scores may become more important this year.

Can the initial score be lower if the applicant comes from a lower scoring school? Will that matter more this year? I think I've heard people call this landscape.

Are you talking about College Board's Landscape tool? That has been used post-pandemic.
Basically, if you have 1580 among a sea of 1550s, it indicates you are from a well resourced school.
But if you have 1500 from a school having a median of 1300, then that's more impressive from an under-resourced school.
I would say the latter has advantage over the former, score-wise.

Nobody knows what would happen to Landscaping this year. Lots of abrupt disruptions this year, sorta like the covid first year, maybe worse.
People will do a post mortem a year later when data is out.

NP. Agree with what you are saying, except that a high school with an average of 1300 is actually still a well-resourced high school in many parts of the country. Average-resourced high school will have a much lower average, like 1100.

So is a 1480 or 1490 at an average 1100 school as helpful as a 1550 at a well resourced school?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yall are delusional 25th percentiles are not for your upper middle class white children. Thats not happening.

Then who are they for? Schools will be careful to avoid different average scores for accepted students by race for the next few years...

No. Once it's transparent, people will scrutinize rejected pool too. If they see all the high scorer white being rejected while low scorer white being accepted, there is something fishy.

I'm fairly certain Trump's admin only sees the admitted students' stats, not the denied ones.

Do we think the "algorithms" that shape classes will try to ensure admitted students' stats across races are closer this year?

I don't know but I think that holistic reviews will all be done with an eye towards what this student will look like when stripped of all facts other than GPA & test score.

Seems like contextual review of SAT scores may become more important this year.

Can the initial score be lower if the applicant comes from a lower scoring school? Will that matter more this year? I think I've heard people call this landscape.

Are you talking about College Board's Landscape tool? That has been used post-pandemic.
Basically, if you have 1580 among a sea of 1550s, it indicates you are from a well resourced school.
But if you have 1500 from a school having a median of 1300, then that's more impressive from an under-resourced school.
I would say the latter has advantage over the former, score-wise.

Nobody knows what would happen to Landscaping this year. Lots of abrupt disruptions this year, sorta like the covid first year, maybe worse.
People will do a post mortem a year later when data is out.

NP. Agree with what you are saying, except that a high school with an average of 1300 is actually still a well-resourced high school in many parts of the country. Average-resourced high school will have a much lower average, like 1100.

So is a 1480 or 1490 at an average 1100 school as helpful as a 1550 at a well resourced school?

1550 at a well resourced school is not helpful at all if their average is 1550. In a school like that, 1590 doesn't make you any different.