Are schools allowed to use gender in admissions?

[Anonymous]

On the vast majority of tangible results, males are outperforming females. A major exception is college admissions which is tilted strongly towards females.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:On the vast majority of tangible results, males are outperforming females. A major exception is college admissions which is tilted strongly towards females.

The expectation for college admissions is that your transcript is as close to perfect as possible. This requires a degree of brain development in 9th grade that most boys don’t have at age 14. Girls are at that level at a younger age. I see it with my son’s friends. So many had fabulous grades in 11th and 12th grade and high SAT/ACT, but a bumpy start to high school. Before anyone says “how do you know grades of other kids?” - the moms discuss and lament whether an upward trend really helps, this is how I know.

[Anonymous]

The places where a lot of boys want to be have female preferences and the places where a lot of girls want to be have male preferences.

This is almost as bad as affirmative action. Not quite but almost

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because girls dominate college admissions now. They have stronger applications and do better overall. As a result, many colleges have more females than males (UVA is an example). So, they admit males at a higher rate to combat this. Good examples are Brown, Wesleyan, and Vassar.

It is Catch-22. Girls do not want to matriculate at a school with a lot more girls than boys, so many colleges try to limit their gender imbalance. This means girls have a harder time being admitted with equal academics. Girls also want admissions with identical academics as boys to be equally probable. Boys (as a group) underperform girls (as a group) academically nationwide. Athletics gave boys an admissions advantage over girls many years ago, but not as much now due to Title IX. It is impossible to square that circle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yes they are allowed to gender balance under supreme court rulings.

Sexism is ok when it benefits white men.

Right. The ERA was introduced to fix this and make sex-based discrimination subject to strict scrutiny review. It shouldn’t have been a controversial proposal, but we apparently cant have nice things like that here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD also doesn't want to go to college with over 60% female!

Then she better be prepared to lose her spot altogether to a boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, you know there are single sex college right?

Only for women, or those that identify as women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because girls dominate college admissions now. They have stronger applications and do better overall. As a result, many colleges have more females than males (UVA is an example). So, they admit males at a higher rate to combat this. Good examples are Brown, Wesleyan, and Vassar.

It is Catch-22. Girls do not want to matriculate at a school with a lot more girls than boys, so many colleges try to limit their gender imbalance. This means girls have a harder time being admitted with equal academics. Girls also want admissions with identical academics as boys to be equally probable. Boys (as a group) underperform girls (as a group) academically nationwide. Athletics gave boys an admissions advantage over girls many years ago, but not as much now due to Title IX. It is impossible to square that circle.

The answer is standardized test scores. There are significantly more boys at the far right end of the curve than girls. Especially if you don't count Asian girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD also doesn't want to go to college with over 60% female!

Then she better be prepared to lose her spot altogether to a boy.

A friend of mine read admissions (pre-read, first read, whatever) for her Alma mater, a SLAC. She was like “theoretically we could have filled the entire class with Asian males from NOVA who wanted to major in CS and math but no, the college wouldn’t want to do that”. I sort of get her point but the current system really doesn’t benefit anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because girls dominate college admissions now. They have stronger applications and do better overall. As a result, many colleges have more females than males (UVA is an example). So, they admit males at a higher rate to combat this. Good examples are Brown, Wesleyan, and Vassar.

It is Catch-22. Girls do not want to matriculate at a school with a lot more girls than boys, so many colleges try to limit their gender imbalance. This means girls have a harder time being admitted with equal academics. Girls also want admissions with identical academics as boys to be equally probable. Boys (as a group) underperform girls (as a group) academically nationwide. Athletics gave boys an admissions advantage over girls many years ago, but not as much now due to Title IX. It is impossible to square that circle.

The answer is standardized test scores. There are significantly more boys at the far right end of the curve than girls. Especially if you don't count Asian girls.

WTF.

In what world do we not “count” Asian girls?

Please explain yourself.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like the parents of Asian girls could band together for a lawsuit focused on gender.

[Anonymous]

Gender preference is NOT allowed in many states and in many state colleges. This includes Virginia. And many, many more women apply to college than men. That's why JMU, for example, has such a gender imbalance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because girls dominate college admissions now. They have stronger applications and do better overall. As a result, many colleges have more females than males (UVA is an example). So, they admit males at a higher rate to combat this. Good examples are Brown, Wesleyan, and Vassar.

It is Catch-22. Girls do not want to matriculate at a school with a lot more girls than boys, so many colleges try to limit their gender imbalance. This means girls have a harder time being admitted with equal academics. Girls also want admissions with identical academics as boys to be equally probable. Boys (as a group) underperform girls (as a group) academically nationwide. Athletics gave boys an admissions advantage over girls many years ago, but not as much now due to Title IX. It is impossible to square that circle.

The answer is standardized test scores. There are significantly more boys at the far right end of the curve than girls. Especially if you don't count Asian girls.

So you want to tip the balance to young men who do slightly better on the math portion of standardized tests, but don’t have the executive functioning to excel in their schoolwork, day in and out? I’m not even going to touch your last sentence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because girls dominate college admissions now. They have stronger applications and do better overall. As a result, many colleges have more females than males (UVA is an example). So, they admit males at a higher rate to combat this. Good examples are Brown, Wesleyan, and Vassar.

LOL !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you know there are single sex college right?

Only for women, or those that identify as women.

Wabash College in Indiana is 100% male. About 900 students.

Morehouse College in Atlanta is an all male HBCU.

In Minnesota,St. John's is all male.

Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia is all male (about 1,000 students).