the anti-sunscreen movement

[Anonymous]

Sunburns hurt like hell especially if they blister, and we know for a fact sunburns are bad for your skin and raise your chances of getting skin cancer. I'm 47 and have had 2 friends get diagnosed with melanoma and 1 with basal cell all before age 40. And as someone who is fair, I'm going to err on the side of protecting my skin against a 100% guaranteed sunburn if I have to be in the sun instead of worrying about a potential, not-yet-demonstrated correlation between the chemicals in sunscreen and health effects. SPF clothing and hats are also great options but sometimes you still need sunscreen. I will likewise continue to apply sunscreen to my kids--particularly the one who takes after me and is very fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would rather cover up with linen etc.

Same. And I live on the beach. Fair skinned and never been burned. I’m just careful how much I allow myself.

The percentage of Americans with Vitamin D deficiency is astronomical. Educate yourselves, people.

I’ve had chronically low Vitamin D and even when I supplement it’s at the bottom level of normal. I used to teach at a daycare and was outside a couple of hours a day with only spf15 in my morning face lotion and I was still vitamin d deficient. I think it’s more of a nutritional factor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people realize that there are millions of people who labor in the sun every day and they don’t use sunscreen right?

They aren’t the ones getting the cancer. It’s office workers on vacation that get it. Maybe the science should look into it.

The science has looked into it extensively. A serious sunburn increases your risk of melanoma more than frequent low level exposure does. Also, check out the rave of the day laborers vs the office worker on vacation and let me know if you notice any trends there

[Anonymous]

*race

[Anonymous]

Yes, I got showed a video by some middle aged influencer touring this a month ago. No way lady! Apparently she got push back and doubled down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people realize that there are millions of people who labor in the sun every day and they don’t use sunscreen right?

They aren’t the ones getting the cancer. It’s office workers on vacation that get it. Maybe the science should look into it.

Those who labor in the sun every day get very tanned or have more skin pigment (melanin) to begin with. That melanin is protective to a large extent. But office workers with lighter skin and who are only in the sun on lunch break or weekends are more vulnerable and need to cover up or wear sunscreen in the sun.

I personally only use sunscreen when exposed to sun, I would not leave sunscreen on indoors as some do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I only use Korean sunscreen. Theirs are better chemicals in that they are weightless and don’t make me feel like a snowman.

Melanoma isn’t anything like 100% fatal, though. My mom had it and lived cancer free for another 15 years. That said. I am still religious about sunscreen.

I have had to lighten up a little as my kids get older because teen boys go do things and aren’t going to be as careful as one would prefer. Oh well.

It doesn’t need to be 100% fatal to die from it.

In 2025, deaths expected:

About 8,430 people are expected to die of melanoma (about 5,470 men and 2,960 women).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vaccines, fluoride, pasteurized milk, sunscreen.

I assume washing their hands, using seat belts, and cooking raw meat are next on the chopping block.

Well, the dumb will die off, killed by preventable diseases. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

Also, why would you want to go through radiation and it puts you at risk for other cancers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m married to an orthopedic. You need vitamin d for healthy bones. I also feel like slathering ourselves in chemicals isn’t healthy either. We don’t wear it everyday. We wear it if we’ll be outside more than a half hour to 45 min. My answer might change if we had a strong history of melanoma, but we don’t.

Vitamin D is not going to save your bones alone and you can get it from a supplement. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Anonymous]

Which sunscreen has the healthy ingredients?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m married to an orthopedic. You need vitamin d for healthy bones. I also feel like slathering ourselves in chemicals isn’t healthy either. We don’t wear it everyday. We wear it if we’ll be outside more than a half hour to 45 min. My answer might change if we had a strong history of melanoma, but we don’t.

You know, there is a reason why other physicians joke that ortho bros are dumb and don’t know anything about medicine that doesn’t involve bones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people realize that there are millions of people who labor in the sun every day and they don’t use sunscreen right?

They aren’t the ones getting the cancer. It’s office workers on vacation that get it. Maybe the science should look into it.

OMG I cannot take these posters who spew nonsense. It takes 30 seconds to verify your claim, which is CATEGORICALLY FALSE.

“Outdoor workers had lower educational levels, and felt less confident in understanding medical information and filling medical forms (all P < 0.001). Outdoor workers had more signs of photodamage (78.1% vs. 65.5%) and among the skin cancer patients, 37.7% of outdoor workers vs. 28.6% of indoor workers had ≥2 skin cancers diagnosed during their lifetime.”

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26995016/#:~:text=indoor%20work%20for%20AK%20(ORother,Ultraviolet%20Rays*

American Academy of Dermatology survey shows outdoor workers more at risk for skin cancer than average Americans
https://www.aad.org/news/outdoor-workers-at-risk-skin-cancer

The logic fail is just spectacular. I shouldn’t be surprised, and yet….

[Anonymous]

No sunscreen is bananas. Unless you NEVER go to the beach or pool or do any outdoor sports, there are certain situations where it's just irresponsible to not wear sunscreen, I play tennis outside three seasons and I wear a hat or visor and will wear a sun shirt sometimes as well but it's not possible to protect myself completely without sunscreen. Even in a sun shirt, I have to do my neck, face, the backs of my hands. I am melanin-challenged and very burn prone.

That said, I support the idea of avoiding sunscreen when you can. My daughter and I both wear wide brimmed hats, a lot of my warm weather clothes are fuller coverage (long sleeve linen shirts, midi skirts) and I naturally gravitate towards the shade in my day to day life.

Using sunscreen doesn't have to mean slathering yourself in it all day every day. Unless you're a landscaper or something, your need is never going to be that high and there are other ways to protect your skin (actually most landscapers wear hats and long pants and long-sleeve shirts anyway, to protect against bugs and encounters with things like poison ivy).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people realize that there are millions of people who labor in the sun every day and they don’t use sunscreen right?

They aren’t the ones getting the cancer. It’s office workers on vacation that get it. Maybe the science should look into it.

Those who labor in the sun every day get very tanned or have more skin pigment (melanin) to begin with. That melanin is protective to a large extent. But office workers with lighter skin and who are only in the sun on lunch break or weekends are more vulnerable and need to cover up or wear sunscreen in the sun.

I personally only use sunscreen when exposed to sun, I would not leave sunscreen on indoors as some do.

More people spreading lies.