80 Years Since Hiroshima & Nagasaki

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Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

I'm talking about an atomic bomb. A weapon of mass destruction that never been used before or after. I understand the victor gets to write his-story. Maybe the Japanese would agree that they would have fought to the last woman and child, but we know that's not true because they didn't. A bomb would not have stopped that mentality of never surrender. It was a convenient reason to try out our new weapon and to spare American lives. Kinda glad as the grandchild of someone who fought in the WW2 Pacific. I'm just wondering what the lense of the Japanese survivors were and what they teach in their history classes. I bet it is not what you wrote.

The Japanese did not care what the civilians said or suffered. They were there to serve the emperor and the military. There were countless new weapons used during the war.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

I'm talking about an atomic bomb. A weapon of mass destruction that never been used before or after. I understand the victor gets to write his-story. Maybe the Japanese would agree that they would have fought to the last woman and child, but we know that's not true because they didn't. A bomb would not have stopped that mentality of never surrender. It was a convenient reason to try out our new weapon and to spare American lives. Kinda glad as the grandchild of someone who fought in the WW2 Pacific. I'm just wondering what the lense of the Japanese survivors were and what they teach in their history classes. I bet it is not what you wrote.

The Japanese socially shunned victims of radiation and burns from the bombs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha

They faced intense discrimination when finding jobs or spouses. They were given a welfare payment, but the government basically said "tough luck" to many of the civilian victims. Japan is pretty f#cked up. They have a mix of guilt (for being aggressors) and shame (for being completely dominated by a Western force).

You meant to say "Japan WAS pretty effed up". What you describe is not Japan in 2025. The Japanese people are as beautiful and kind as the German people are in 2025. Most countries have experienced times of awful leadership that took them to dark places. It doesn't mean the people are anywhere close to as dark and deranged as their leaders. Israeli Jews and Palestinians are examples of beautiful and kind people misrepresented by their blood thirsty leaders.

Stop kidding yourself. I lived in Germany and I firmly believe they would more than welcome another war to make them the Master Race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

Too bad we didn't have four atomic bombs--two for Germany and two for Japan and bombed them back into the stone Age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

I'm talking about an atomic bomb. A weapon of mass destruction that never been used before or after. I understand the victor gets to write his-story. Maybe the Japanese would agree that they would have fought to the last woman and child, but we know that's not true because they didn't. A bomb would not have stopped that mentality of never surrender. It was a convenient reason to try out our new weapon and to spare American lives. Kinda glad as the grandchild of someone who fought in the WW2 Pacific. I'm just wondering what the lense of the Japanese survivors were and what they teach in their history classes. I bet it is not what you wrote.

The Japanese socially shunned victims of radiation and burns from the bombs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha

They faced intense discrimination when finding jobs or spouses. They were given a welfare payment, but the government basically said "tough luck" to many of the civilian victims. Japan is pretty f#cked up. They have a mix of guilt (for being aggressors) and shame (for being completely dominated by a Western force).

You meant to say "Japan WAS pretty effed up". What you describe is not Japan in 2025. The Japanese people are as beautiful and kind as the German people are in 2025. Most countries have experienced times of awful leadership that took them to dark places. It doesn't mean the people are anywhere close to as dark and deranged as their leaders. Israeli Jews and Palestinians are examples of beautiful and kind people misrepresented by their blood thirsty leaders.

Stop kidding yourself. I lived in Germany and I firmly believe they would more than welcome another war to make them the Master Race.

You sound like the idiots who think Haitians are eating people's pets in Ohio. You can find a few 80 IQ skinheads in every major city and civilized country but the vast majority of people in this world are decent human beings who aren't putting up with any mainstream push for a "master race". Turn off the cable news, leave your basement, and talk to real people!

[Anonymous]

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I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.



They probably believe that the atomic bombs were unnecessary. However, the Japanese were not held accountable for many of the war crimes they committed against POW's and the citizens of countries conquered by Japan. I have heard that Japanese schools don't teach about Japanese war crimes. This might impact their views on the necessity of using atomic bombs.

Read "The Rape of Nanking" and the unbelievably cruelty of Japanese soldiers who murdered, raped women to death. There are some atrocities that can never be forgiven or forgotten.

The lack of historical knowledge by some posters is shocking. Obviously, the American educational system is far worse than we knew.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

I'm talking about an atomic bomb. A weapon of mass destruction that never been used before or after. I understand the victor gets to write his-story. Maybe the Japanese would agree that they would have fought to the last woman and child, but we know that's not true because they didn't. A bomb would not have stopped that mentality of never surrender. It was a convenient reason to try out our new weapon and to spare American lives. Kinda glad as the grandchild of someone who fought in the WW2 Pacific. I'm just wondering what the lense of the Japanese survivors were and what they teach in their history classes. I bet it is not what you wrote.

The Japanese socially shunned victims of radiation and burns from the bombs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha

They faced intense discrimination when finding jobs or spouses. They were given a welfare payment, but the government basically said "tough luck" to many of the civilian victims. Japan is pretty f#cked up. They have a mix of guilt (for being aggressors) and shame (for being completely dominated by a Western force).

You meant to say "Japan WAS pretty effed up". What you describe is not Japan in 2025. The Japanese people are as beautiful and kind as the German people are in 2025. Most countries have experienced times of awful leadership that took them to dark places. It doesn't mean the people are anywhere close to as dark and deranged as their leaders. Israeli Jews and Palestinians are examples of beautiful and kind people misrepresented by their blood thirsty leaders.

Stop kidding yourself. I lived in Germany and I firmly believe they would more than welcome another war to make them the Master Race.

You sound like the idiots who think Haitians are eating people's pets in Ohio. You can find a few 80 IQ skinheads in every major city and civilized country but the vast majority of people in this world are decent human beings who aren't putting up with any mainstream push for a "master race". Turn off the cable news, leave your basement, and talk to real people!

As I said. I lived in Germany.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

Too bad we didn't have four atomic bombs--two for Germany and two for Japan and bombed them back into the stone Age.

Germany was nearly completely occupied by the time the nuclear bombs became available.

Had the allies been stopped at Normandy, the U.S. might very well have nuked Berlin to take out Hitler.

Thanks to Eisenhower’s planning and brilliant execution of D-Day, the nukes were not needed against Germany.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

Too bad we didn't have four atomic bombs--two for Germany and two for Japan and bombed them back into the stone Age.

They were not going to drop the atomic bomb on Caucasians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

I'm talking about an atomic bomb. A weapon of mass destruction that never been used before or after. I understand the victor gets to write his-story. Maybe the Japanese would agree that they would have fought to the last woman and child, but we know that's not true because they didn't. A bomb would not have stopped that mentality of never surrender. It was a convenient reason to try out our new weapon and to spare American lives. Kinda glad as the grandchild of someone who fought in the WW2 Pacific. I'm just wondering what the lense of the Japanese survivors were and what they teach in their history classes. I bet it is not what you wrote.

The Japanese socially shunned victims of radiation and burns from the bombs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha

They faced intense discrimination when finding jobs or spouses. They were given a welfare payment, but the government basically said "tough luck" to many of the civilian victims. Japan is pretty f#cked up. They have a mix of guilt (for being aggressors) and shame (for being completely dominated by a Western force).

You meant to say "Japan WAS pretty effed up". What you describe is not Japan in 2025. The Japanese people are as beautiful and kind as the German people are in 2025. Most countries have experienced times of awful leadership that took them to dark places. It doesn't mean the people are anywhere close to as dark and deranged as their leaders. Israeli Jews and Palestinians are examples of beautiful and kind people misrepresented by their blood thirsty leaders.

Stop kidding yourself. I lived in Germany and I firmly believe they would more than welcome another war to make them the Master Race.

You sound like the idiots who think Haitians are eating people's pets in Ohio. You can find a few 80 IQ skinheads in every major city and civilized country but the vast majority of people in this world are decent human beings who aren't putting up with any mainstream push for a "master race". Turn off the cable news, leave your basement, and talk to real people!

As I said. I lived in Germany.

And therefore you were exposed to the good-natured and hard working German people. Lucky you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

Too bad we didn't have four atomic bombs--two for Germany and two for Japan and bombed them back into the stone Age.

They were not going to drop the atomic bomb on Caucasians.

Germans aren’t Caucasians, moron. Look at a map. Is Germany anywhere near the Caucus Mountains?

Germans are Aryan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

Too bad we didn't have four atomic bombs--two for Germany and two for Japan and bombed them back into the stone Age.

They were not going to drop the atomic bomb on Caucasians.

Germans aren’t Caucasians, moron. Look at a map. Is Germany anywhere near the Caucus Mountains?

Germans are Aryan.

And if there had been millions of Aryans living in Japan in 1945, we certainly would have not hesitated to drop the bomb where and when we did.

[Anonymous]

I don't think germans are aryan- aryan are the fire worshippers of the near east- zoroastrians and the pope who later became hindus in India. Hitler was...confused (deranged)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to view the bombs’ use through only one lens: the lens of reality.

The fact is: the bombs saved countless lives.

I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses.

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate.

Too bad we didn't have four atomic bombs--two for Germany and two for Japan and bombed them back into the stone Age.

They were not going to drop the atomic bomb on Caucasians.

Germans aren’t Caucasians, moron. Look at a map. Is Germany anywhere near the Caucus Mountains?

Germans are Aryan.

Hi, welcome to the USA, traveler.

In American English, "Caucasian" means "White".

The term in its modern use was invented by the same gang of human trash who made up the modern use of "Aryan" to mean "whoever Nazis didn't want to murder today"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think germans are aryan- aryan are the fire worshippers of the near east- zoroastrians and the pope who later became hindus in India. Hitler was...confused (deranged)

Call 'em what you want. I have no problem with our tactics used to destroy their Nazi arses. Nowadays, I love them but not so much back in '45.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not sure why bombing 1 town was not enough and it had to be 2.

Some hardheaded punks need two fists upside the head to get the message of “cease and desist”.

The Japanese were basically the MAGAs of the time. History can teach us the solutions to current problems, if only we pay attention. A few nukes dropped on maga strongholds like Idaho and Oklahoma and various places in Florida would do a lot of good.

You are sick. Know this: you are far worse than any “MAGA”.