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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Japanese were preparing to fight to death; the death of every Japanese man, woman, and child.

You have to [b]view the bombs’ use through only one lens:[/b]  the lens of reality.

The fact is:  the bombs saved countless lives.[/quote]
I know that is our historical perspective and what we say, but how is it portrayed through Japan's historical lenses. [/quote]

In a similar way to how the Berliners view the destruction of their city and mass casualties to civilians in 1945. Their leaders were trying to take over the world, they were the war instigators and the aggressors, and their countries inevitably paid the ultimate price within their borders as the world stepped up to stop them. What happened and who the aggressors were in the 1930s and 40s is not a matter of debate. [/quote]
I'm talking about an atomic bomb. A weapon of mass destruction that never been used before or after.  I understand the victor gets to write his-story. Maybe the Japanese would agree that they would have fought to the last woman and child, but we know that's not true because they didn't. A bomb would not have stopped that mentality of never surrender. It was a convenient reason to try out our new weapon and to spare American lives. Kinda glad as the grandchild of someone who fought in the WW2 Pacific. I'm just wondering what the lense of the Japanese survivors were and what they teach in their history classes. I bet it is not what you wrote. [/quote]

The Japanese socially shunned victims of radiation and burns from the bombs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakusha

They faced intense discrimination when finding jobs or spouses. They were given a welfare payment, but the government basically said "tough luck" to many of the civilian victims. Japan is pretty f#cked up. They have a mix of guilt (for being aggressors) and shame (for being completely dominated by a Western force). [/quote]

You meant to say "Japan WAS pretty effed up". What you describe is not Japan in 2025. The Japanese people are as beautiful and kind as the German people are in 2025. Most countries have experienced times of awful leadership that took them to dark places. It doesn't mean the people are anywhere close to as dark and deranged as their leaders. Israeli Jews and Palestinians are examples of beautiful and kind people misrepresented by their blood thirsty leaders.[/quote]

Stop kidding yourself.  I lived in Germany and I firmly believe they would more than welcome another war to make them the Master Race.[/quote]

You sound like the idiots who think Haitians are eating people's pets in Ohio. You can find a few 80 IQ skinheads in every major city and civilized country but the vast majority of people in this world are decent human beings who aren't putting up with any mainstream push for a "master race". Turn off the cable news, leave your basement, and talk to real people![/quote]

As I said. I lived in Germany.[/quote]

And therefore you were exposed to the good-natured and hard working German people. Lucky you![/quote]

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