What is an appropriate time frame for a "shadowing" experience in healthcare/finance/law?

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Anonymous wrote:I manage a surgical practice and we occasionally have high schoolers shadow ( not a formal program but just friends or family members of staff members).
They are usually there for a day or 2 max. They’ll shadow some of the doctors and nurses when seeing patients in consults and pre/ post operative visits but they cannot go into the operating room to observe surgery if they are under 18.


Meaning that 18 year old can observe surgery?! That seems crazy. Is this behind glass or close up?


DP - Mine was allowed inside the OR room. They had to stay away from the sterile field, but did get a lot out of it. It was a pivotal experience for them.


A minor and an unauthorized person in the OR??
Such a huge liability, privacy compromise, and ethics violation to boot.

Either it didn't happen or, if it did, not in the US.

My kids also observed in ORs in high school.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, many of these industries are much more regulated than they used to be. I’m a physician and definitely followed my dad around when I was in high school and everyone just allowed it. I’m sure they were also kind of annoyed by it. As an ER doctor, I have people try to connect their high school and college students with me and the answer is absolutely not. I’m seeing 3 to 5 critically ill patients an hour and it’s honestly kind of a nightmare in healthcare right now. If your child truly has an interest in healthcare, there are entry-level clinical jobs that they can do for the summer. Even better, have them apply to Scribe America. Those jobs are going to disappear fast because everyone’s going to AI, but some ERs and offices are still using kids that are interested in healthcare as scribes. There’s no better shadowing experience than being a scribe. Those kids went everywhere with me, including into every trauma.


This kind of experience does seem to be about who you know. My sister is an ER doc and has let her HS daughter shadow her a bunch of times.
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This is so ridiculous. She’s only a sophomore. She doesn’t need to shadow anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:Yikes your kid has pre selected some of the dreariest career fields


I’m guessing the kid just saw some salary data and picked those 3.

I would think shadowing in law and finance would be incredibly boring. You wouldn’t be able to view anything. I agree that sitting in on a public courtroom might be your best bet.
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Anonymous wrote:I manage a surgical practice and we occasionally have high schoolers shadow ( not a formal program but just friends or family members of staff members).
They are usually there for a day or 2 max. They’ll shadow some of the doctors and nurses when seeing patients in consults and pre/ post operative visits but they cannot go into the operating room to observe surgery if they are under 18.


DH is a surgeon and works at a medical school. HS students can shadow at 16 with proper paperwork.

Our 16yo just shadowed another surgeon at age 16.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I manage a surgical practice and we occasionally have high schoolers shadow ( not a formal program but just friends or family members of staff members).
They are usually there for a day or 2 max. They’ll shadow some of the doctors and nurses when seeing patients in consults and pre/ post operative visits but they cannot go into the operating room to observe surgery if they are under 18.


Meaning that 18 year old can observe surgery?! That seems crazy. Is this behind glass or close up?


DP - Mine was allowed inside the OR room. They had to stay away from the sterile field, but did get a lot out of it. It was a pivotal experience for them.


Pp. I'm shocked, I've always thought only medical students, not HS kids especially as the original PP (not the person I'm replying to) said not a formal program, just family and friends! I hope real consent is given from the patients, meaning not sprung on them the day of surgery.


I just posted that dh works at a teaching hospital. If you are at a teaching hospital, there are residents, medical students, nursing students, college students and more uncommon high school students observing.
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