Post you DC elementary school’s tech usage!

[Anonymous]

Where/ how have dcps parents brought this up? PTA meetings? Higher level meetings? Emails to teachers? I actually know one teacher at my child’s jklm who is personally very against screens. But she is not in a position to make waves.

At a friend’s private, there is a parent-led “working group” on tech use. Anything like that make sense for dcps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where/ how have dcps parents brought this up? PTA meetings? Higher level meetings? Emails to teachers? I actually know one teacher at my child’s jklm who is personally very against screens. But she is not in a position to make waves.

At a friend’s private, there is a parent-led “working group” on tech use. Anything like that make sense for dcps?

I wrote one frustrated email asking aftercare to clarify their TV policy but have since let it go with both the school and aftercare. I don't love all the screens but my kid is generally happy and doing well in school and it's not worth it to me to make a big deal about something that is in part driven by differences in cultural norms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During tours of Capitol Hill schools this year during lottery season I witnessed:

- PK-4 class at Maury dancing to a video on the smartboard
- 1st graders at LT working on tablets (1:1)
- A video displaying the words to a story on a smartboard at Payne in a PK or K classroom
- A class watching a video on a smartboard about another country on a “virtual field trip” as the tour guide called it at CHML

And those were things that just happened to be occurring as the tour passed by! I felt pretty disheartened.

Uh huh. 🙄 How much screen time does your kid have at home?
Have you ever thought about kids with disabilities who may need bigger words than what’s on a chart paper? Or maybe they need visuals to help them engage. Are you going to print thousands and pay for colored visuals?

Are you going to pay for a trip to Italy?

There is NOTHING wrong with what you listed as long as it’s not for hours.

I have done a 15 minute virtual tour in my classroom, then students did research using books, travel magazines, brochures, etc.

If parents want zero tech send your kid to a private forest school. We have those in this area, they’re cute.

DP but what we are telling you is that it adds up to hours. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 10 hours a week once you add in Numberblocks at aftercare, seriously. And my kid gets zero screen time on school days at home, and a few episodes or a movie on the weekend. We used to allow an episode after school but when I saw how much screen time she was getting at school I realized the only counterbalance I could provide was at home - and I have to listen to teachers say kids attention spans are terrible while playing snippets of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 8x a day.

You can pull from your personal experience, however I am pulling from the 50+ classrooms I’ve seen or heard about. That is why I am trying to say it varies.

If you are going to make an example make it real as well. No teacher plays MMCH 8x a day, unless they themselves love it or something…which is something else. That and number blocks is too overstimulating. I use low stimuli videos only, unless it’s indoor recess then yes I will allow Danny Go.

Personally I use videos for morning meeting and yoga after nap on the daily. That is about 10 minutes a day.
Using a smartboard for a timer and a schedule is not a destructive kids. I also have a physical schedule.

If you want less tech and are refusing forest school you have to start with advocating for a smaller class size. Think 12 students in PK3/4. 15 students in K+ and each grade has an assistant.

Teachers unfortunately don’t have enough time in the day unless you want to go back to the 90’s and early 2000’s where kids just got a bunch of worksheets.

I can do low tech, iReady was a center. 5 kids in each center. 15 min of iReady a day. While whole group tech was 10 min a day. Yes it was still 2 hours ish a week. iReady isn’t a choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where/ how have dcps parents brought this up? PTA meetings? Higher level meetings? Emails to teachers? I actually know one teacher at my child’s jklm who is personally very against screens. But she is not in a position to make waves.

At a friend’s private, there is a parent-led “working group” on tech use. Anything like that make sense for dcps?

I wrote one frustrated email asking aftercare to clarify their TV policy but have since let it go with both the school and aftercare. I don't love all the screens but my kid is generally happy and doing well in school and it's not worth it to me to make a big deal about something that is in part driven by differences in cultural norms.

Aftercare is just babysitting unless it’s enrichment or an outside program no one gets for free. Some schools aftercare is free for some and that version is more likely to just be playing videos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During tours of Capitol Hill schools this year during lottery season I witnessed:

- PK-4 class at Maury dancing to a video on the smartboard
- 1st graders at LT working on tablets (1:1)
- A video displaying the words to a story on a smartboard at Payne in a PK or K classroom
- A class watching a video on a smartboard about another country on a “virtual field trip” as the tour guide called it at CHML

And those were things that just happened to be occurring as the tour passed by! I felt pretty disheartened.

Uh huh. 🙄 How much screen time does your kid have at home?
Have you ever thought about kids with disabilities who may need bigger words than what’s on a chart paper? Or maybe they need visuals to help them engage. Are you going to print thousands and pay for colored visuals?

Are you going to pay for a trip to Italy?

There is NOTHING wrong with what you listed as long as it’s not for hours.

I have done a 15 minute virtual tour in my classroom, then students did research using books, travel magazines, brochures, etc.

If parents want zero tech send your kid to a private forest school. We have those in this area, they’re cute.

DP but what we are telling you is that it adds up to hours. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 10 hours a week once you add in Numberblocks at aftercare, seriously. And my kid gets zero screen time on school days at home, and a few episodes or a movie on the weekend. We used to allow an episode after school but when I saw how much screen time she was getting at school I realized the only counterbalance I could provide was at home - and I have to listen to teachers say kids attention spans are terrible while playing snippets of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 8x a day.

You can pull from your personal experience, however I am pulling from the 50+ classrooms I’ve seen or heard about. That is why I am trying to say it varies.

If you are going to make an example make it real as well. No teacher plays MMCH 8x a day, unless they themselves love it or something…which is something else. That and number blocks is too overstimulating. I use low stimuli videos only, unless it’s indoor recess then yes I will allow Danny Go.

Personally I use videos for morning meeting and yoga after nap on the daily. That is about 10 minutes a day.
Using a smartboard for a timer and a schedule is not a destructive kids. I also have a physical schedule.

If you want less tech and are refusing forest school you have to start with advocating for a smaller class size. Think 12 students in PK3/4. 15 students in K+ and each grade has an assistant.

Teachers unfortunately don’t have enough time in the day unless you want to go back to the 90’s and early 2000’s where kids just got a bunch of worksheets.

I can do low tech, iReady was a center. 5 kids in each center. 15 min of iReady a day. While whole group tech was 10 min a day. Yes it was still 2 hours ish a week. iReady isn’t a choice.

No one at all has said it doesn't vary, so I'm not clear what strawman you're tackling here.

As to the bolded: just loud and wrong. I didn't include a single example I haven't witnessed personally. And this class had 16 students with 2 teachers and a paraprofessional. If the teacher is overwhelmed at those ratios she needs to go work with spreadsheets somewhere.

Also LOL @ dismissing my personal experience because of all the "examples you've heard about." Can you hear yourself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where/ how have dcps parents brought this up? PTA meetings? Higher level meetings? Emails to teachers? I actually know one teacher at my child’s jklm who is personally very against screens. But she is not in a position to make waves.

At a friend’s private, there is a parent-led “working group” on tech use. Anything like that make sense for dcps?

I wrote one frustrated email asking aftercare to clarify their TV policy but have since let it go with both the school and aftercare. I don't love all the screens but my kid is generally happy and doing well in school and it's not worth it to me to make a big deal about something that is in part driven by differences in cultural norms.

Aftercare is just babysitting unless it’s enrichment or an outside program no one gets for free. Some schools aftercare is free for some and that version is more likely to just be playing videos.

PP. Our aftercare is not free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Giving devices to elementary school children is an excellent way to destroy their attention spans. Don't complain when they won't read a book.

I have read only 10 books in my life. There are so many other ways to get information. Books are boring, the world is not.

Yikes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During tours of Capitol Hill schools this year during lottery season I witnessed:

- PK-4 class at Maury dancing to a video on the smartboard
- 1st graders at LT working on tablets (1:1)
- A video displaying the words to a story on a smartboard at Payne in a PK or K classroom
- A class watching a video on a smartboard about another country on a “virtual field trip” as the tour guide called it at CHML

And those were things that just happened to be occurring as the tour passed by! I felt pretty disheartened.

Uh huh. 🙄 How much screen time does your kid have at home?
Have you ever thought about kids with disabilities who may need bigger words than what’s on a chart paper? Or maybe they need visuals to help them engage. Are you going to print thousands and pay for colored visuals?

Are you going to pay for a trip to Italy?

There is NOTHING wrong with what you listed as long as it’s not for hours.

I have done a 15 minute virtual tour in my classroom, then students did research using books, travel magazines, brochures, etc.

If parents want zero tech send your kid to a private forest school. We have those in this area, they’re cute.

DP but what we are telling you is that it adds up to hours. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 10 hours a week once you add in Numberblocks at aftercare, seriously. And my kid gets zero screen time on school days at home, and a few episodes or a movie on the weekend. We used to allow an episode after school but when I saw how much screen time she was getting at school I realized the only counterbalance I could provide was at home - and I have to listen to teachers say kids attention spans are terrible while playing snippets of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 8x a day.

You can pull from your personal experience, however I am pulling from the 50+ classrooms I’ve seen or heard about. That is why I am trying to say it varies.

If you are going to make an example make it real as well. No teacher plays MMCH 8x a day, unless they themselves love it or something…which is something else. That and number blocks is too overstimulating. I use low stimuli videos only, unless it’s indoor recess then yes I will allow Danny Go.

Personally I use videos for morning meeting and yoga after nap on the daily. That is about 10 minutes a day.
Using a smartboard for a timer and a schedule is not a destructive kids. I also have a physical schedule.

If you want less tech and are refusing forest school you have to start with advocating for a smaller class size. Think 12 students in PK3/4. 15 students in K+ and each grade has an assistant.

Teachers unfortunately don’t have enough time in the day unless you want to go back to the 90’s and early 2000’s where kids just got a bunch of worksheets.

I can do low tech, iReady was a center. 5 kids in each center. 15 min of iReady a day. While whole group tech was 10 min a day. Yes it was still 2 hours ish a week. iReady isn’t a choice.

No one at all has said it doesn't vary, so I'm not clear what strawman you're tackling here.

As to the bolded: just loud and wrong. I didn't include a single example I haven't witnessed personally. And this class had 16 students with 2 teachers and a paraprofessional. If the teacher is overwhelmed at those ratios she needs to go work with spreadsheets somewhere.

Also LOL @ dismissing my personal experience because of all the "examples you've heard about." Can you hear yourself?

You implied it doesn’t vary by framing your example as the standard.

You have less experience and no I have seen those 50 in person, the others are just talking to colleagues. I’m sorry you misunderstood.

You are ridiculous, what parent has more experience in DCPS classrooms than a teacher of 15+ years. Kick rocks and scoot along to your forest school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where/ how have dcps parents brought this up? PTA meetings? Higher level meetings? Emails to teachers? I actually know one teacher at my child’s jklm who is personally very against screens. But she is not in a position to make waves.

At a friend’s private, there is a parent-led “working group” on tech use. Anything like that make sense for dcps?

I wrote one frustrated email asking aftercare to clarify their TV policy but have since let it go with both the school and aftercare. I don't love all the screens but my kid is generally happy and doing well in school and it's not worth it to me to make a big deal about something that is in part driven by differences in cultural norms.

Aftercare is just babysitting unless it’s enrichment or an outside program no one gets for free. Some schools aftercare is free for some and that version is more likely to just be playing videos.

PP. Our aftercare is not free.

But is it free for some people?

[Anonymous]

Stoddert PTO has a technology working group that's been working on inventorying classes and grades, a petition showing parent support, and a screen minimal policy for the school. The principal has been open minded and helped facilitate logistics. It's just a start but each school has different needs and realities so PTO or LSAT can be a fruitful place to advocate for less tech if that's what you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During tours of Capitol Hill schools this year during lottery season I witnessed:

- PK-4 class at Maury dancing to a video on the smartboard
- 1st graders at LT working on tablets (1:1)
- A video displaying the words to a story on a smartboard at Payne in a PK or K classroom
- A class watching a video on a smartboard about another country on a “virtual field trip” as the tour guide called it at CHML

And those were things that just happened to be occurring as the tour passed by! I felt pretty disheartened.

Uh huh. 🙄 How much screen time does your kid have at home?
Have you ever thought about kids with disabilities who may need bigger words than what’s on a chart paper? Or maybe they need visuals to help them engage. Are you going to print thousands and pay for colored visuals?

Are you going to pay for a trip to Italy?

There is NOTHING wrong with what you listed as long as it’s not for hours.

I have done a 15 minute virtual tour in my classroom, then students did research using books, travel magazines, brochures, etc.

If parents want zero tech send your kid to a private forest school. We have those in this area, they’re cute.

DP but what we are telling you is that it adds up to hours. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 10 hours a week once you add in Numberblocks at aftercare, seriously. And my kid gets zero screen time on school days at home, and a few episodes or a movie on the weekend. We used to allow an episode after school but when I saw how much screen time she was getting at school I realized the only counterbalance I could provide was at home - and I have to listen to teachers say kids attention spans are terrible while playing snippets of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 8x a day.

You can pull from your personal experience, however I am pulling from the 50+ classrooms I’ve seen or heard about. That is why I am trying to say it varies.

If you are going to make an example make it real as well. No teacher plays MMCH 8x a day, unless they themselves love it or something…which is something else. That and number blocks is too overstimulating. I use low stimuli videos only, unless it’s indoor recess then yes I will allow Danny Go.

Personally I use videos for morning meeting and yoga after nap on the daily. That is about 10 minutes a day.
Using a smartboard for a timer and a schedule is not a destructive kids. I also have a physical schedule.

If you want less tech and are refusing forest school you have to start with advocating for a smaller class size. Think 12 students in PK3/4. 15 students in K+ and each grade has an assistant.

Teachers unfortunately don’t have enough time in the day unless you want to go back to the 90’s and early 2000’s where kids just got a bunch of worksheets.

I can do low tech, iReady was a center. 5 kids in each center. 15 min of iReady a day. While whole group tech was 10 min a day. Yes it was still 2 hours ish a week. iReady isn’t a choice.

No one at all has said it doesn't vary, so I'm not clear what strawman you're tackling here.

As to the bolded: just loud and wrong. I didn't include a single example I haven't witnessed personally. And this class had 16 students with 2 teachers and a paraprofessional. If the teacher is overwhelmed at those ratios she needs to go work with spreadsheets somewhere.

Also LOL @ dismissing my personal experience because of all the "examples you've heard about." Can you hear yourself?

You implied it doesn’t vary by framing your example as the standard.

You have less experience and no I have seen those 50 in person, the others are just talking to colleagues. I’m sorry you misunderstood.

You are ridiculous, what parent has more experience in DCPS classrooms than a teacher of 15+ years. Kick rocks and scoot along to your forest school.

I literally started this conversation by saying that there's less screentime WOTP than EOTP, but on the plus side: at least you're not teaching logic!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I would love a tech free classroom. But there are things computers are just far more efficient at. I teach math, so let’s take basic math facts. Sure I can make centers and games and have kids do paper quizzes. But those take time to make and grade and collect data.

Or I can have kids do a program for ten minutes a day that quizzes them on all their facts, identifies which ones they know well and which ones they need to learn, then automatically sets up practice and quizzes on just those facts.

IReady is similar. I teach grade level content, but your kid will be getting limited below or above grade level content from me. Yes I do small groups. But not everyone, everyday. But iReady quizzes your kid on what they know and then gives them lessons on those topics.

If I had more time, I would absolutely love to be able to do more individual planning but by the time I get through everything else I have to do to plan for a regular day, the 50 individualized plans just won’t happen. Hence, computer time.

+1. My two children each went to a different DCPS elementary. One went a school where he regularly used Lexia, Reflex, I-Ready, and Zearn. The other school used no programs other than I-Ready.

At the end of elementary, the child using all the apps went to middle school far better prepared than my child who didn’t use apps, because the programs addressed all his weaknesses and made sure he had his math facts memorized, and phonics/grammar/spelling well understood. I’ve had to make up for all the gaps of my other child on my own, and it’s been an uphill road.

That is interesting. My kid went to a title 1 for early elementary and a non-title 1 for the latter half, and there is dramatically less screen time at the non-title 1, like "brain breaks" at the Title 1 were on screens, but at the non-Title 1 the kids relax in hands on centers, non-Title 1 has more hands on projects, non title 1 has more physical books, title 1 read books on the app, and many other examples like that. The number of apps used on Clever at the Title 1 was enormous, at the non-Title 1 it's only iReady. the second school let me kid use iReady for what seemed like almost an hour a day, and their math progress was huge (like 4 grade levels of growth in one year). I think that was only possible on an app and would have been much harder on paper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During tours of Capitol Hill schools this year during lottery season I witnessed:

- PK-4 class at Maury dancing to a video on the smartboard
- 1st graders at LT working on tablets (1:1)
- A video displaying the words to a story on a smartboard at Payne in a PK or K classroom
- A class watching a video on a smartboard about another country on a “virtual field trip” as the tour guide called it at CHML

And those were things that just happened to be occurring as the tour passed by! I felt pretty disheartened.

Uh huh. 🙄 How much screen time does your kid have at home?
Have you ever thought about kids with disabilities who may need bigger words than what’s on a chart paper? Or maybe they need visuals to help them engage. Are you going to print thousands and pay for colored visuals?

Are you going to pay for a trip to Italy?

There is NOTHING wrong with what you listed as long as it’s not for hours.

I have done a 15 minute virtual tour in my classroom, then students did research using books, travel magazines, brochures, etc.

If parents want zero tech send your kid to a private forest school. We have those in this area, they’re cute.

DP but what we are telling you is that it adds up to hours. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 10 hours a week once you add in Numberblocks at aftercare, seriously. And my kid gets zero screen time on school days at home, and a few episodes or a movie on the weekend. We used to allow an episode after school but when I saw how much screen time she was getting at school I realized the only counterbalance I could provide was at home - and I have to listen to teachers say kids attention spans are terrible while playing snippets of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 8x a day.

You can pull from your personal experience, however I am pulling from the 50+ classrooms I’ve seen or heard about. That is why I am trying to say it varies.

If you are going to make an example make it real as well. No teacher plays MMCH 8x a day, unless they themselves love it or something…which is something else. That and number blocks is too overstimulating. I use low stimuli videos only, unless it’s indoor recess then yes I will allow Danny Go.

Personally I use videos for morning meeting and yoga after nap on the daily. That is about 10 minutes a day.
Using a smartboard for a timer and a schedule is not a destructive kids. I also have a physical schedule.

If you want less tech and are refusing forest school you have to start with advocating for a smaller class size. Think 12 students in PK3/4. 15 students in K+ and each grade has an assistant.

Teachers unfortunately don’t have enough time in the day unless you want to go back to the 90’s and early 2000’s where kids just got a bunch of worksheets.

I can do low tech, iReady was a center. 5 kids in each center. 15 min of iReady a day. While whole group tech was 10 min a day. Yes it was still 2 hours ish a week. iReady isn’t a choice.

No one at all has said it doesn't vary, so I'm not clear what strawman you're tackling here.

As to the bolded: just loud and wrong. I didn't include a single example I haven't witnessed personally. And this class had 16 students with 2 teachers and a paraprofessional. If the teacher is overwhelmed at those ratios she needs to go work with spreadsheets somewhere.

Also LOL @ dismissing my personal experience because of all the "examples you've heard about." Can you hear yourself?

You implied it doesn’t vary by framing your example as the standard.

You have less experience and no I have seen those 50 in person, the others are just talking to colleagues. I’m sorry you misunderstood.

You are ridiculous, what parent has more experience in DCPS classrooms than a teacher of 15+ years. Kick rocks and scoot along to your forest school.

I literally started this conversation by saying that there's less screentime WOTP than EOTP, but on the plus side: at least you're not teaching logic!

I’ve taught in both. Significantly more tech time in the WOTP. Kids finished class work faster so more time to be on tech plus a lot more writing and research assignments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Giving devices to elementary school children is an excellent way to destroy their attention spans. Don't complain when they won't read a book.

I have read only 10 books in my life. There are so many other ways to get information. Books are boring, the world is not.

Adults who brag about not reading is so strange.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:During tours of Capitol Hill schools this year during lottery season I witnessed:

- PK-4 class at Maury dancing to a video on the smartboard
- 1st graders at LT working on tablets (1:1)
- A video displaying the words to a story on a smartboard at Payne in a PK or K classroom
- A class watching a video on a smartboard about another country on a “virtual field trip” as the tour guide called it at CHML

And those were things that just happened to be occurring as the tour passed by! I felt pretty disheartened.

Uh huh. 🙄 How much screen time does your kid have at home?
Have you ever thought about kids with disabilities who may need bigger words than what’s on a chart paper? Or maybe they need visuals to help them engage. Are you going to print thousands and pay for colored visuals?

Are you going to pay for a trip to Italy?

There is NOTHING wrong with what you listed as long as it’s not for hours.

I have done a 15 minute virtual tour in my classroom, then students did research using books, travel magazines, brochures, etc.

If parents want zero tech send your kid to a private forest school. We have those in this area, they’re cute.

DP but what we are telling you is that it adds up to hours. I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than 10 hours a week once you add in Numberblocks at aftercare, seriously. And my kid gets zero screen time on school days at home, and a few episodes or a movie on the weekend. We used to allow an episode after school but when I saw how much screen time she was getting at school I realized the only counterbalance I could provide was at home - and I have to listen to teachers say kids attention spans are terrible while playing snippets of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse 8x a day.

You can pull from your personal experience, however I am pulling from the 50+ classrooms I’ve seen or heard about. That is why I am trying to say it varies.

If you are going to make an example make it real as well. No teacher plays MMCH 8x a day, unless they themselves love it or something…which is something else. That and number blocks is too overstimulating. I use low stimuli videos only, unless it’s indoor recess then yes I will allow Danny Go.

Personally I use videos for morning meeting and yoga after nap on the daily. That is about 10 minutes a day.
Using a smartboard for a timer and a schedule is not a destructive kids. I also have a physical schedule.

If you want less tech and are refusing forest school you have to start with advocating for a smaller class size. Think 12 students in PK3/4. 15 students in K+ and each grade has an assistant.

Teachers unfortunately don’t have enough time in the day unless you want to go back to the 90’s and early 2000’s where kids just got a bunch of worksheets.

I can do low tech, iReady was a center. 5 kids in each center. 15 min of iReady a day. While whole group tech was 10 min a day. Yes it was still 2 hours ish a week. iReady isn’t a choice.

No one at all has said it doesn't vary, so I'm not clear what strawman you're tackling here.

As to the bolded: just loud and wrong. I didn't include a single example I haven't witnessed personally. And this class had 16 students with 2 teachers and a paraprofessional. If the teacher is overwhelmed at those ratios she needs to go work with spreadsheets somewhere.

Also LOL @ dismissing my personal experience because of all the "examples you've heard about." Can you hear yourself?

You implied it doesn’t vary by framing your example as the standard.

You have less experience and no I have seen those 50 in person, the others are just talking to colleagues. I’m sorry you misunderstood.

You are ridiculous, what parent has more experience in DCPS classrooms than a teacher of 15+ years. Kick rocks and scoot along to your forest school.

I literally started this conversation by saying that there's less screentime WOTP than EOTP, but on the plus side: at least you're not teaching logic!

Teachers obviously have more insight as a whole than non-dcps teaching parents. I see your little ego couldn’t handle that.

This will be my last reply to you, I want to contribute to the discussion, and this is really dull at this point.