Still sad about leaving the federal government

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a sibling (incidentally a Republican but not a Trump supporter) who spent their whole career — 40 years — as a fed in one agency because they believed the work was inportant. The agency is now being drstpyed, my sibling is retiring and I think it is permanently affecting their outlook on life to feel that their life’s work is being dismantled in this way. It’s all very sad and it’s okay to feel sad about it. It’s normal to be upset and I wouldn’t expect that feeling to ever go away, although you may learn to live with it differently as time passes.

Just for fun , imagine you have worked hard for 20 years and were very good at your job , and then the company fired an entire division suddenly , and then the next week a group of H1bs from
Indian companies showed up to take their place . And then imagine that when you expressed your the opinion that h1b is not good for US citizens , you heard that others in the community did not care and thought h1b was great because we had a worker shortage

I really do have sympathy for your situation , next election join in the fight and let’s elect leaders that will promote policies that help US workers first and not h1bs and opts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re grieving. It’s a process. It’s not exactly the same thing, but I worked for a great company that treated its employees well and where we were encouraged to always do right by the customer. It was a wonderful place to work and I intended to stay there until I retired. Then they got acquired by an awful organization and everything went downhill quickly. I literally went through the stages of grief dealing with it. I finally left after about two years of misery. I’m honestly past it now, but it took a long time to get there.

Same here, I used to get panic attacks at 3am. But all shall pass and life goes on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sibling (incidentally a Republican but not a Trump supporter) who spent their whole career — 40 years — as a fed in one agency because they believed the work was inportant. The agency is now being drstpyed, my sibling is retiring and I think it is permanently affecting their outlook on life to feel that their life’s work is being dismantled in this way. It’s all very sad and it’s okay to feel sad about it. It’s normal to be upset and I wouldn’t expect that feeling to ever go away, although you may learn to live with it differently as time passes.

Just for fun , imagine you have worked hard for 20 years and were very good at your job , and then the company fired an entire division suddenly , and then the next week a group of H1bs from
Indian companies showed up to take their place . And then imagine that when you expressed your the opinion that h1b is not good for US citizens , you heard that others in the community did not care and thought h1b was great because we had a worker shortage

I really do have sympathy for your situation , next election join in the fight and let’s elect leaders that will promote policies that help US workers first and not h1bs and opts

Between 2008 and 2018, I lost every one of my job due to outsourcing to India. That was 3 jobs total. I am at a better place, as business grow, we get a lot of pressure from executive class to use acuity (offshore resource). It seems to be a cycle we have to survive now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sibling (incidentally a Republican but not a Trump supporter) who spent their whole career — 40 years — as a fed in one agency because they believed the work was inportant. The agency is now being drstpyed, my sibling is retiring and I think it is permanently affecting their outlook on life to feel that their life’s work is being dismantled in this way. It’s all very sad and it’s okay to feel sad about it. It’s normal to be upset and I wouldn’t expect that feeling to ever go away, although you may learn to live with it differently as time passes.

Just for fun , imagine you have worked hard for 20 years and were very good at your job , and then the company fired an entire division suddenly , and then the next week a group of H1bs from
Indian companies showed up to take their place . And then imagine that when you expressed your the opinion that h1b is not good for US citizens , you heard that others in the community did not care and thought h1b was great because we had a worker shortage

I really do have sympathy for your situation , next election join in the fight and let’s elect leaders that will promote policies that help US workers first and not h1bs and opts

This happened at my company too. Not a fan of H1Bs and frustrated that so many turn away from facing this very real issue

[Anonymous]

I'm not sad about leaving the government. For me, the stars aligned. I was eligible for early retirement and took it. Initially, I did like my job, but in the end my government job turned into TOO MUCH like a government job. Too many meetings, too many bosses, too much talking about work, but not a lot of work getting done. I'm thankful for the time I put in, the opportunities I was afforded and really liked my colleagues- they were outstanding professionally and personally.

I do think the government needs some rightsizing. This applies to the Fed side and the contractor side. I don't like how it's being shrunk. I feel for those that are being indiscriminately RIFed and shown the door, but I do think something needed to be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sibling (incidentally a Republican but not a Trump supporter) who spent their whole career — 40 years — as a fed in one agency because they believed the work was inportant. The agency is now being drstpyed, my sibling is retiring and I think it is permanently affecting their outlook on life to feel that their life’s work is being dismantled in this way. It’s all very sad and it’s okay to feel sad about it. It’s normal to be upset and I wouldn’t expect that feeling to ever go away, although you may learn to live with it differently as time passes.

Just for fun , imagine you have worked hard for 20 years and were very good at your job , and then the company fired an entire division suddenly , and then the next week a group of H1bs from
Indian companies showed up to take their place . And then imagine that when you expressed your the opinion that h1b is not good for US citizens , you heard that others in the community did not care and thought h1b was great because we had a worker shortage

I really do have sympathy for your situation , next election join in the fight and let’s elect leaders that will promote policies that help US workers first and not h1bs and opts

DP, but I don’t think I know anyone who thinks h1b workers were a great thing. We all knew it was so rich people could save money on labor costs. There’s never been any pretext (at least widespread that I know of) that this was some sort of good for the American people.

Meanwhile the absolute vitriol toward feds and cheering of the destruction of federal programs by many of our fellow Americans has been disgusting. Imagine worshipping billionaires who would gladly leave you for dead on a street corner if it meant increasing their net worth by .01% while celebrating some GS-11 getting RIF’d.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re getting the same responses because we chose those careers because we wanted to make a difference and do good. I feel the same.

And to all the DOGE and MAGAts, I got a remote position that pays a lot more. The good people will leave.

But I grieve waking up everyday motivated by the mission and all we were doing to help people. It’s painful.

Not all the good people will leave. Some of us will stay and will try to accomplish the mission as much as we can. We will be needed to fix this mess after 2026/2028.

[Anonymous]

Question- I think if work for federal govt for 5 years are eligible to do govt health insurance if retire after those 5 years? Is that still true? If don’t retire but resign and get a job outside of fed govt, can you still do the govt health insurance? Or do you have to fully stop working to use it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question- I think if work for federal govt for 5 years are eligible to do govt health insurance if retire after those 5 years? Is that still true? If don’t retire but resign and get a job outside of fed govt, can you still do the govt health insurance? Or do you have to fully stop working to use it?

You have to meet the minimal age requirement if you work less than then years, so age 62 year old; must be insured under the Fed insurance plan for five years then you can carry that when you retired after you turn 62.

Yes, you can continue to work outside of Fed and use the Fed Insurance.
DOJ and DOD still hiring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question- I think if work for federal govt for 5 years are eligible to do govt health insurance if retire after those 5 years? Is that still true? If don’t retire but resign and get a job outside of fed govt, can you still do the govt health insurance? Or do you have to fully stop working to use it?

If you are above retirement age, you can start collecting your pension and health insurance benefits as soon as you leave the Fed Gov't. If you're below that age and stop working for the Federal gov't, you won't get the health insurance, either now or when you eventually do retire.

(I'm being deliberately vague with "retirement age." I know that as someone who has worked for the Fed Gov't for 10 years, my "retirement age" is 57 under "MRA + 10." I have no idea what the age might be for someone who worked only 5 years.)

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the real world which non feds have been dealing with for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a sibling (incidentally a Republican but not a Trump supporter) who spent their whole career — 40 years — as a fed in one agency because they believed the work was inportant. The agency is now being drstpyed, my sibling is retiring and I think it is permanently affecting their outlook on life to feel that their life’s work is being dismantled in this way. It’s all very sad and it’s okay to feel sad about it. It’s normal to be upset and I wouldn’t expect that feeling to ever go away, although you may learn to live with it differently as time passes.

Just for fun , imagine you have worked hard for 20 years and were very good at your job , and then the company fired an entire division suddenly , and then the next week a group of H1bs from
Indian companies showed up to take their place . And then imagine that when you expressed your the opinion that h1b is not good for US citizens , you heard that others in the community did not care and thought h1b was great because we had a worker shortage

I really do have sympathy for your situation , next election join in the fight and let’s elect leaders that will promote policies that help US workers first and not h1bs and opts

DP, but I don’t think I know anyone who thinks h1b workers were a great thing. We all knew it was so rich people could save money on labor costs. There’s never been any pretext (at least widespread that I know of) that this was some sort of good for the American people.

Meanwhile the absolute vitriol toward feds and cheering of the destruction of federal programs by many of our fellow Americans has been disgusting. Imagine worshipping billionaires who would gladly leave you for dead on a street corner if it meant increasing their net worth by .01% while celebrating some GS-11 getting RIF’d.

I've never met anyone who wasn't an h1b visa holder who supported the program, and I'm a liberal Democrat. It exists to make wealthy people even more wealthy by abusing their workforce.

I'm really sad that so many Americans hate federal and state employees. Worked for years to make life better for my fellow citizens at a salary lower than private industry and this is what happens?

The federal / state government mission and job security were two of the only things keeping me in government jobs recently, and now those two motivations are gone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the real world which non feds have been dealing with for decades.

Well, most of us would prefer a "real world" where no one has to deal with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the real world which non feds have been dealing with for decades.

Well, most of us would prefer a "real world" where no one has to deal with this.

You ALWAYS have to deal with this in the real world. That's why they call it the "real world". The government has a reputation of being a place where once you're in, it's extremely difficult to get fired, even for gross incompetence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the real world which non feds have been dealing with for decades.

Well, most of us would prefer a "real world" where no one has to deal with this.

You ALWAYS have to deal with this in the real world. That's why they call it the "real world". The government has a reputation of being a place where once you're in, it's extremely difficult to get fired, even for gross incompetence.

Sh*t man, private contractors are not any better. There are good and bad workers in all sectors. Don’t BS us about you are the only one doing “real” work. What a fking loser.